OOC: End of one Era - Beginning of another

[dragonsjem]

Consols Bakan over the big, complicated, expensive, traditional church wedding with many total strangers gawking at them. I know you want to make Karen happy...but still sorry

[Bakan]

For everyone's information, the tenative date for Karen and mine's wedding is going to be May 6th, 2006.

[Hewitt]

.....

You realise that's over a year and a half away right?

[flapjack]

I suspect he knows how to read the calendar.

Damned Aussies... Should have them all shot :P

[Hewitt]

*Smacks FJ with his trusty cricket bat.*

That's not what I meant...


I guess I'm just more used to engagements being a lot shorter - must be my family.

[Bakan]

LoL.

Well, as Serene said, we have a lot of planning, not to mention I'm graduating, dunno where I'll be working full-time, and whatnot, so we decided to give ourselves some headroom and take the planning slowely and carefully.

And it's a year and less than 3 months away :-P.

[Bakan]

Oh yes, if any of you have the insane desire to be at said wedding, post here why you think you should be invited :-p

[Tseia]

Better late than never: congratulations

[Fluffie]

...you need & want at least one dutch guest, don't you?

[Disrupter]

good luck with all the planning and such, (idk if youll need it but better be safe then sorry)

oh and if you feel the need you could invite meh but do what you want

It IS youre wedding after all

[flapjack]

even I wanted, I prolly couldn't anyways, prohibitive air ticket costs and such.

Not to mention the risk of pissing Bakan off and missing my return flight

I think I'll stick to pissing him off on the forums, that's a lot safer :P

[dragonsjem]

oh sure, you all want to go to Bakan's wedding but don't want to go to mine and Darkling's .

And Bakan, We better be invited :P.

[flapjack]

I never said I didn't want to go to yours.... The subject just never came up.

I have a good idea though, set a webcam up so we can all watch, those of that can't/aren't allowed to come

[dragonsjem]

Well that was already the plan for mine and darklings. SOmething like that at least. But i don't know if Bakan could get that to work with the large church wedding and all.

[Bakan]

Heh, my best man is a fellow geek, another (likely) groomsman will be a techie as well, something will be arranged :-p

[Tseia]

You have churches with broadband access on your side of the pond, then?

(We do, so I'd imagine you do )

[Fluffie]

if i go to darklings and dragonsjems, can i "cosplay" a K5?

i mean.. your wedding probably lacks someone dutch too!

[dragonsjem]

Well as it's medieval themed sorta, swords are allowed, but I have no idea how'd you do that. Nor do i know how'd you'd get it through customs.

As for the dutch part, we aren't :P Czar is determined to come.

Just an added note for wannabe guests. There will be NO alcohol served at the wedding and many of you are too young to drink legally here.

[Darkling]

I just point out as well that the K5 is based of an asian weapon whilst our wedding is more themed around medieval europe. Though I use term loosly since its not going to be to extreme level since that would cost more than we have to spend on it. So its just down to costumes and the like, though they are by the persons choice.

[flapjack]

Originally Posted by dragonsjem

Well as it's medieval themed sorta, swords are allowed, but I have no idea how'd you do that. Nor do i know how'd you'd get it through customs.

As for the dutch part, we aren't :P Czar is determined to come.

Just an added note for wannabe guests. There will be NO alcohol served at the wedding and many of you are too young to drink legally here.

Czar's a commie, he shouldn't be allowed to call himself Dutch :P

[Hewitt]

Originally Posted by dragonsjem

Just an added note for wannabe guests. There will be NO alcohol served at the wedding and many of you are too young to drink legally here.

Wha? How can you have a wedding without booze? 'tis blasphemy! Think of the poor family/friends that ruin every occasion by getting drunk... for pities sake.

[dragonsjem]

*Slaps Flapjack upside his head* That comment isn't even worth a good RP beatdown.

As for the alcohol, There are only a few ppl coming who even drink and since the bride, groom, and my parents who are paying for it don't drink, the drinkers will have to go find something AFTER the wedding. Besides, I am not giving access to alcohol to the majority of UNDERAGE guests. We're not getting arrested and Darkling getting kicked out of the country after the wedding for anyone.

[Hewitt]

Kicked out of the country!? Yikes...

[No Dachi]

Can't you just hold the wedding in Canada or something?

[flapjack]

I'm not sure if that'd be good enough for Darkling to be allowed to stay in the USA.

I really wish we would finally start kicking immigrants who break the law out of the country again, that would really help around here

note: I have nothing against immigrants, it's just that they represent a much larger portion of the prisons then they, when you're comparing numbers, should. I really wish I had the exact numbers right now though

[Darkling]

That would never work as neither of us are Canadian citizens, so try explaning that one to the US goverment when we try to live there, since the marriage would not be valid then in the US. All this causing a whole lot more problems than we currently have to deal with to begin with.

[dragonsjem]

nope, we have to get married in the country we plan to live in unless we want to spend even longer on paperwork and other government redtape.

Besides, i live about an hour from the canadian border. Underage ppl can take a trip if they want, but Darkling and I can't go. Another annoying rule is he can't leave the country without excessive paperwork for 3 some years.

[flapjack]

wow, so first they don't want to him to come unless he can prove he's good for it.

Then when they let him in, they don't want him to leave...

I think what those government guys really need are some paper shredders, so they can shred all the stupid rules...

[No Dachi]

Guys, it was a joke. Never mind, eh. I hope both weddings go well and that the States' immigration laws are not too much of a barrier to your enjoyment in future years.

Flapjack: You'll probably find that poor people form a larger share of the prison populations "than they should". I decided to pick up on that even though it's off-topic since reducing conflict within society is a good thing.

[flapjack]

ND: Poor people forming a large share of the prison population is expected, since poor people would be more inclined to crime as a method to increase their income. And while I think poor people should be helped, I also think criminals should be punished. Punishing immigrants can most of the time be done by simply tossing them out the country and sending them back to where they came from (though obviously, heavy crimes like manslaughter and murder should still get you put in jail, regardless of nationality).

This not only often forces them to rebuild their lives, it also significantly reduces government costs and thus decreases the load on poor, non-criminal, people.

[No Dachi]

Flapjack: The point being that immigrants (first and second generation, certainly) will tend to be at a disadvantaged position within society, and so will tend to form a disproportionate share of the prison population for the same reason that the poor do. You seem to count impoverished national ethnics and impoverished immigrants as separate groups to be treated differently, and I can't see why. Anyway, this is my last post on the matter since it is as was already indicated off-topic.

[Hewitt]

I don't mean to sound offensive Flapjack, but that's a pretty nieve generalisation... although a common one. Crime centres around poverty and desperation, not because of some peeps racial background, and the mostly likely reason a higher than normal percentage of immigrants are in this situation is because racist, redneck, american b*stards openly discrimate against them making getting a job and existing in the community that much harder. Many find themselves forced from re-building their lives which can have a negative effect on the more impressionable younger peeps whom, more than likely feeling angry and frustrated well rebel against the community that shunned them.

Think about the big picture before taking the easy way out of the issue.

[No Dachi]

Deporting immigrants after they commit crimes would indeed seem to imply that immigrants and not poverty or social exclusion are the cause of the crime, which simply isn't the case. I mean, you could deport all the criminals, which is what we used to do. Then a hundred and fifty years or so down the line you'll get a cool cousin-nation like Australia that you can all emmigrate to.

[Hewitt]

Aww... ND, that's so touching... *Pats ND on the back...... then steals his wallet. *

[No Dachi]

Anyway I think we were talking about weddings or something similar. Or was it funerals? Yes, I think it was funerals. Fluffie died and we were organising his funeral, and then we started talking about having the funeral in Canada instead of the Netherlands or something. That was it.

[Oysia]

Originally Posted by flapjack

wow. That's been ages since you last posted Oysia

I know. I got a little busy.

[flapjack]

I don't think you get my point ND, anyways, I'm not gonna continue on this topic because it is indeed off-topic.

And now that I'm off-topic anywas, it'd be a great idea to put all the big criminals on a bunch of huge spaceships and shoot them some place as far away as possible :P

[Fluffie]

fluffie dead again?
damnit

[Richpur]

Thinking about the expense and environmental concerns of sending a few selected people into space and the sheer number of people in prisons, it would certainly be better to dispose of them here... possibly by turning them all into compost and turning the sahara into a large farm. Solves two problems that way. Although the environmental problems caused by an africa with a growing population as well as the current indian and chinese industrialisation... Meh. was there a topic? oh, yes...

Countries being cautious about people entering on the basis of marriage is understandable; we had a landmark case over here recently where the official actually refused to marry a couple when they were accompanied to the ceremony by two interpreters who introduced them to each other; they'd never met before and didn't have any language in common. Decided they obviously weren't getting married for the right reasons...

Can't see any problems with this lot... apart from the obvious insanity.

[flapjack]

You do realise you just called a moderator of this forum insane, right?

*Flapjack goes to expiriment with sending flowers over DCC*

[Richpur]

Yes, I do indeed realise I just called a moderator insane... and the problem with this is what?

[Kal_Zakath]

Congrats.