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1 Jun 2005, 14:29
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Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Amycus
Yes, because I left SiN and joined eX because in my eyes at that time SiN was dead. Not to mention the fact that SiN is designed to let players go. Also eX is where I will stay until it is gone.
Hydra on the other hand have the reputation of jumping ship everytime their toes get wet.
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What is this reputation based upon? A handful of members leaving Wolfpack? So, Angels is nasty because Angels recruited certain Hydra Battlegroup members who had left their original alliance, EXilition is not (playing "ugly") for recruiting how they recruit.
Let me elaborate.
Agreed SiN's agenda is to train players. So, a SiN player leaving for an opposing block alliance isn't a shipjumper but developing his career and commiting his former alliance's goals. Right on that. Does the same apply to VisioN, Wolfpack (non-hydra, or a certain Hydra member who left for EXilition earlier on), Tides of Fire, and Howling Rain?
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1 Jun 2005, 15:41
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Chika
Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
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It is actually the other way round. Usually the bad buys have way better skills than the good ones, however, the good ones have the "Always wins the decisive battle"-skill which makes up for sucking on everything else. (Compare this to Star Wars as a whole for example)
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1 Jun 2005, 16:06
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
How is leaving a alliance for another shipjumping? I can understand if you leave for another alliance in a opposing block during a war, but Keiz did not do that. If what he did was shipjumping, and Angels are bastards for taking him in, then all alliances are mongochops who take in shipjumpers, no?
If the people who think Keiz is a shipjumper could please elaborate instead of being arrogant and insultive (apparently, it does not work ), maybe you could explain to the stupider parts of the community (like myself), why he is a shipjumper.
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1 Jun 2005, 16:06
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Camelot
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
There is only one good and one bad alliance in PA:
Xanadu is good. Fury is bad.
It's that simple. Really.
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1 Jun 2005, 16:11
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saint-ciboire de tabarnac
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Heartless
It is actually the other way round. Usually the bad buys have way better skills than the good ones, however, the good ones have the "Always wins the decisive battle"-skill which makes up for sucking on everything else. (Compare this to Star Wars as a whole for example)
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and shipjumpers that join the bad guys are like lando and symbolize the ugly
but ones who betray the bad guys like the twat who got chocked by darth vader's invisible hands cause he pressed the wrong button are heroes
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1 Jun 2005, 17:10
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by helikopter
Indeed, you lack dedication, activity and skills. Because of that your planets are so small that even I, who isn't even in top10, can attack only 3 of them. Others are just too tiny.
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My planet is so small i can only NOT attack 3 planets :P
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1 Jun 2005, 17:19
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Under the floorboards
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by laputa
There is only one good and one bad alliance in PA:
Xanadu is good. Fury is bad.
It's that simple. Really.
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That made me smile
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1 Jun 2005, 17:29
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by laputa
There is only one good and one bad alliance in PA:
Xanadu is good. Fury is bad.
It's that simple. Really.
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Every time someone says that, God kills a Boyband.
So please, think of the Boybands
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1 Jun 2005, 17:30
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Swansea
Posts: 798
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Elysium is good, Legion is bad!
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1 Jun 2005, 18:03
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Legion is good, Ely are n00bs.
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1 Jun 2005, 18:10
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 367
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by helikopter
ROFL. That made me smile even. How the hell can your alliance be outnumbered when
1. Your alliance has more members than any of the exi/lch/tot block alliances
2. Your block has more members than the exi/lch/tot block
Indeed, you lack dedication, activity and skills. Because of that your planets are so small that even I, who isn't even in top10, can attack only 3 of them. Others are just too tiny.
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Our "block" does not attack that much together, check your intel. Last time we all was on same alliance was when we picked Angels. Thats some time ago or what ?
We get incommings from all of the other block EACH night. ( the other day lch,ex,tot all attack SiNND ) And we then picked back at LCH with 1up. You see the difference? or are you blind ?
So basically having a shared channel , where we dont pick targets. Is giving us the name block ?
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1 Jun 2005, 18:11
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saint-ciboire de tabarnac
Join Date: May 2005
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Snurx
How is leaving a alliance for another shipjumping?
If the people who think Keiz is a shipjumper could please elaborate instead of being arrogant and insultive (apparently, it does not work ), maybe you could explain to the stupider parts of the community (like myself), why he is a shipjumper.
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Noone has answered this question yet. That's because it's an extremely boring subject, and is pretty self evident.
Leaving one alliance for another IS shipjumping. "shipjumping" isn't a real word, but that definition fits best imo. The circumstances surrounding the move and the reasons why the player wants to switch will decide how they'll be viewed for doing so. Wether he's being a traitor for his personal gain or simply moving on. You are upset that your friend is seen in a negative context for switching alliances and can't understand how this can be happening.
I'm not going to analize his personal situation, simply because I don't care.
As was mentioned earlier, the fact he's a top5 planet is the main reason he was more closely observed/critized.
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1 Jun 2005, 19:21
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Proud ex EnTitY bc
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: cornwall, england
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritfire
Our "block" does not attack that much together, check your intel. Last time we all was on same alliance was when we picked Angels. Thats some time ago or what ?
We get incommings from all of the other block EACH night. ( the other day lch,ex,tot all attack SiNND ) And we then picked back at LCH with 1up. You see the difference? or are you blind ?
So basically having a shared channel , where we dont pick targets. Is giving us the name block ?
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Thats your problem if you are not capable of working together really if lch,ex & tot attack as one unit then good on them.
Funny that you're part of a block but yet can't work as a block really some would consider this ironic.
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
Posts: 2,207
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by laputa
There is only one good and one bad alliance in PA:
Xanadu is good. Fury is bad.
It's that simple. Really.
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Fury was a ruthless yet efficient Empire of Order upon the universe.
Xanadu were insurgents that threatened the 'perfection'.
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1 Jun 2005, 20:00
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chika
Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
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1up were the good guys for r11.
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1 Jun 2005, 20:23
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Punk
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 397
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
In round 11 1up was considerd as the "bad guys" where a lot of people was just plain scared of them.
Things do change dont they
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1 Jun 2005, 21:28
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Amazingstoke
Posts: 2,235
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
themast - you are wrong.
A lot of people hailed 1ups style as the good guys, bringing the good days back to PA.
However, R11 sucked, 1up won because most alliances went solo.
R12 was very good, and that was mainly down to 1up, but they weren't considered as the bad guys then either.
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1 Jun 2005, 21:36
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The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
Posts: 1,633
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
I believe SiN are good guys for training up n00bs to an excellent standard.( I know they merged but what the heck who cares)
I believe there is no bad alliance this round and the only ugly thing i see is ppl flaming ppl constantly because of there dedication.
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1 Jun 2005, 23:30
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
r11 rocked :(
well, for the first t1000 ticks orso :up:
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2 Jun 2005, 02:14
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Ex F-Crew HC
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 112
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
back in the day i saw CeLL as the good guys and Fury as the bad, it was like they controlled the universe and we were rebeling
now everyone is evil except F-Crew, and maybe G.O.A.T because who has ever met an evil goat?
any alliance that Kargool now graces also must be evil, and Forest is an evil bastard so thats all his alliances to.
ah im sleepy so i cant think properly, but in conclusion
go f-crew!
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2 Jun 2005, 04:45
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Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: ******
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
I had some pretty good reasons for EX etc being the badguys and 1up being the good guys earlier on.
But I forgot most of them
Edit: at least one of them (that 1up helps the small alliances like SiN, ToF and Ven play at a higher level have been invalidated by EX getting APA, f-crew etc involved).
I so wanted to say 'EX getting APA, f-crew etc to flak for them'
Last edited by Banned; 2 Jun 2005 at 08:01.
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2 Jun 2005, 07:57
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,164
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by hells
any alliance that Kargool now graces also must be evil
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And here i was walking around thinking i was the evil one. Cant someone just HATE me for once? Jezzz, Kargool gets all the PR and there's nothing left for me
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Kenilworth Road
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by hells
any alliance that Kargool now graces also must be evil, and Forest is an evil bastard so thats all his alliances to.
go f-crew!
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Atleast i didnt take advantage of being added to F-Crews hc channel the first month of the round without anyone noticing
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2 Jun 2005, 11:22
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I see you!
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: In any girl
Posts: 2,825
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrunkenViking
And here i was walking around thinking i was the evil one. Cant someone just HATE me for once?
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No. You're cute as a kitten... kiiiiiiiitty kitty kitty kiiiiiiitty
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2 Jun 2005, 12:35
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
/me breaks down and cries
"You're all so mean to meeeeeeeee"
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2 Jun 2005, 14:49
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Antagonist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: UK
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by hells
now everyone is evil except F-Crew, and maybe G.O.A.T because who has ever met an evil goat?
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2 Jun 2005, 16:34
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Ex F-Crew HC
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 112
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Banned
Edit: at least one of them (that 1up helps the small alliances like SiN, ToF and Ven play at a higher level have been invalidated by EX getting APA, f-crew etc involved).
I so wanted to say 'EX getting APA, f-crew etc to flak for them'
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i seem to remember us telling Ex where to shove the offer or "we could suggest targets for you"
although im not to sure APA saw the true reason for Exilitions Generosity
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2 Jun 2005, 17:22
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Join Date: May 2005
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by hells
although im not to sure APA saw the true reason for Exilitions Generosity
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There is no generosity, there is a non agression pact. And stop off-topicing we've gone through this conversation elsewhere.
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2 Jun 2005, 20:32
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Gifted
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Holland
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by laputa
There is only one good and one bad alliance in PA:
Xanadu is good. Fury is bad.
It's that simple. Really.
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heh, the bots are always the bad ones, just look at "I Robot" etc...
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: JAPAN
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Zh|l
1up were the good guys for r11.
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This is infact true for the start portion of the round. But towards the end 1up was teh evul.Exil did the opposite. Started as bad guys, and as of current have a little good guy in them. crazy.
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th0ng gimp
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: somewhere in th0ngland
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by lokken
There are no good guys in planetarion, only winners and losers.
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Actualy I am the only good guy in planetarion
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3 Jun 2005, 20:43
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Benevolent Dictator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 127
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
NewDawn is the poster child for the good guys.
Its generally.
The unorganized, honorable, standup, do the right thing, go down fighting good guys.
vs.
The cheating, account sharing, multiing, farming, backstabbing, win at all costs bad guys.
Which of course has LDK as the ultimate representative.
The good guys generally take a beating, because they aren't willing to sink to the same level as the bad guys to win.
Although every once in awhile an alliance will arise to organize the good guys & lead them to a victory. (deuce/1up)
The ugly would be alliances like NoS/Wolfpack. They lack the organization, dedication to really compete with the bad guys. They also lack the honor to actually pick a side & stick to it. They'll nap/backstab anyone to try to stay safe & they always end up screwed because of it.
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Retard0r
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,164
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grog
The ugly would be alliances like NoS/Wolfpack. They lack the organization, dedication to really compete with the bad guys.
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Hehe, hi there, good thing you know so much about nos organization and dedication.
I've been in both ND and NoS, and lemme tell you, NoS organization and dedication has allways been better than what i saw in ND back in r 9,5/10. Tho back then ND was more of a gaming community than a pa alliance, so i may not be entirely fair.
For the record, NoS is ev0l.
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The Ministry Hero
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Norway
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loz
There are honorable and dishonorable players.
edit: and alliances.
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Lies.
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4 Jun 2005, 15:56
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Proud ex EnTitY bc
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: cornwall, england
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Having worked with both NewDawn & NoS I can say NoS has alot more skill & dedication than NewDawn.
To be able to play the way they done this round does take alor of political effort as either side can backstab them at any given time.
As for Wolfpack....well wolfpack are one of those alliances that will always be floating around the top 10 alliances they play the way they want to & usually get backstabbed.
I do believe they doubt their ability at times but they do have a pretty good command team but could be improved by a leader like sid who won't let the members & allies take the piss.
Just withh a strict leader to add a backbone to the alliance & kick them into shape they could well be number one contennders.
As for eXil with them being number 1 it doesn't to me suggest they are cheating all it suggests is that they are willing to put in the effort to win.
I personaly believe they are no bad guys in planetation only winners & losers.
No winning alliance has been considered a good guy except 1up but even then you had members of some rubblish middle class alliance if you can call them that building up propogranda.
I myself played in many xanadu galaxies & used alot of anti fury propogranda in the past
Having played with alot of the so called enermy in Wolfpack I now know they are infact a bunch of hard working well respected players.
Basicaly what i'm saying is most alliances have the same intentions & they most the same way.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder depending on how well a pr team can work will affect the community's reaction to the top alliance at the time.
But the top alliance will always be targeted as the bad guy that is how society works.
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Benevolent Dictator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 127
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
pffft.....idiots
I already admitted NewDawn was disorganized. Pay attention ffs.
I said NoS lacked the organization to compete with the bad guys. AKA Exi/LCH
I wasn't in any way saying they were less organized then Newdawn.
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by The_Fish
themast - you are wrong.
A lot of people hailed 1ups style as the good guys, bringing the good days back to PA.
However, R11 sucked, 1up won because most alliances went solo.
R12 was very good, and that was mainly down to 1up, but they weren't considered as the bad guys then either.
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has 1up not accepted your application to join yet , aw well keep trying
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12 Jun 2005, 08:47
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the Sacred Pervert
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Chika
Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
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Ofc. Just like the "nice guys" will never get laid. Only the jerks and the dicks.
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12 Jun 2005, 11:06
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Tietäjä
Agreed SiN's agenda is to train players. So, a SiN player leaving for an opposing block alliance isn't a shipjumper but developing his career and commiting his former alliance's goals. Right on that. Does the same apply to VisioN, Wolfpack (non-hydra, or a certain Hydra member who left for EXilition earlier on), Tides of Fire, and Howling Rain?
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But surely there is also an agenda whereby you train players that will then help you in later rounds? This isn't F-Crew's mantra from what I've gathered, but I'm sure SiN want to do well for themselves; starting out with a bunch of newbies, and training them up so that your alliance crawls from a low rank to a higher rank deserves the highest accolades IMO.
Alliances like Tides of Fire and Veneratio started out outside the T10 (or atleast, ToF's grasp on the T10 was exceedingly tenuous) but through great commitment have dragged themselves up to a higher standard. I think SiN would also be very happy to manage to do such a thing.
But SiN, like Insomnia until their dissolution (but now they're back \o/ ), I always saw as being skilled but too small in numbers to make such an impact. From that position it's very hard to get enough new recruits that will be good at the game, add to the community, and stick with you to improve the alliance in order to cement a T10 position...
(I hope the above paragraph didn't seem like any dig at SiN whatsoever, I hold you guys in the highest regard )
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12 Jun 2005, 12:51
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Sir peon to you
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
I always seem to endup with the bad guys, mainly because they are more fun and generally better at the game. Sadly I recently mistook bad for ugly! <3 Seth
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12 Jun 2005, 13:41
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Down Boy - WOOF!
Join Date: May 2000
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
Whatever:P
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13 Jun 2005, 22:28
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Silver winged Dragon
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
I find it amusing that so many people proclaim 1up to be the good guyes this round when they were proclaimed to be the spawns of satan after r 11 and after r 12..
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14 Jun 2005, 00:27
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Registered Awesome Person
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Elder
I find it amusing that so many people proclaim 1up to be the good guyes this round when they were proclaimed to be the spawns of satan after r 11 and after r 12..
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This round there were no good guys. There were no bad guys. But some allys sure did play ugly.
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20 Jun 2005, 14:34
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Chika
Historically, the good guys are the ones who are losing. The good guys never win. They may hold a top rank, maybe even #1 for a while, but in the end, they lose because they are good.
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hirr!
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21 Jun 2005, 04:18
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Beoyotch
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
The Seal wins.
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21 Jun 2005, 16:39
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deserves a medal
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
My rulername was Teh Bad..
Amy's rulername was Teh Good
We couldnt find an ugly person within our block
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21 Jun 2005, 17:33
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BlueTuba
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
i'll put money that there is a bad person who is good at pa but is quite ugly
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21 Jun 2005, 18:49
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There's Only One United!!
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Southport, England
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
The Bad Guys are the people attacking you, it's that simple really in my mind. Everyone is going to have different views as different people attack them in the game.
Have a Nice Day
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23 Jun 2005, 06:27
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Cliff Jumper
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
im teh bad, b/c bad is hot, and we get red lightsabers =-p
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23 Jun 2005, 11:23
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respect, unity, order
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Re: The good, the bad + the ugly
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Originally Posted by Grog
The good guys generally take a beating, because they aren't willing to sink to the same level as the bad guys to win.
Although every once in awhile an alliance will arise to organize the good guys & lead them to a victory. (DEUCE/1up)
The ugly would be alliances like NoS/Wolfpack. They lack the organization, dedication to really compete with the bad guys. They also lack the honor to actually pick a side & stick to it. They'll nap/backstab anyone to try to stay safe & they always end up screwed because of it.
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Deuce? like lol :s there was nothing good in that, they only pretended to be good, but acted in a way that was effectively destroying the universe more then any other tactic before that
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