Blocks in r9.5

[Aviendha1975]

What's wrong with Cochese's idea from a while back?


Just be your own police-force against blocking.

When you know an alliance has official or unofficial ties with another alliance, let the world know ... and each sends his own alliance out to kill, maim and destroy. No need to cooperate, i'm sure actual coord-lists of the 'bad guy' (lol) can be spread around IRC easily enough. It's all about acting quick and merciless, and for a wargame that must be something new

In a random round it's hard enough to find targets everyone's happy with, it should be easy, but it never is.
So i think everyone will be happy with an actual killtask, more than just 'what shall we roid today?'

What more incentive can you ask for? You don't like blocking, then just assign yourself a private war for your alliance by killing whoever doesn't stand alone. Logic dictates that any alliance who doesn't want to contribute their alliance-resources to this cause, must have a secondary agenda innit?


But then again i worry less about alliances blocking, i worry about battlegroups clustering together much more

[Fifth_teletubbie]

Originally posted by Aviendha1975
What's wrong with Cochese's idea from a while back?


Just be your own police-force against blocking.

When you know an alliance has official or unofficial ties with another alliance, let the world know ... and each sends his own alliance out to kill, maim and destroy.

heh, if that happens then what I'll look forward to most are the threads on AD of alliance X accusing alliance Y of having agreements with alliance Z (all with such irrefutable evidence as 2 newsscans of course) etc etc etc.

It'll be great!!

[StarlockUV]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
...and in everyone's opinion, what makes up a powerblock? 2 or more alliances napped to each other? 2 or more alliances allied to each other?

Bored, trying to start discussion

In my opion it is based on combined member counter. Look at the Weet/Nar group is was not becuase of the amoutn of allaicne involed (althought there were alot) but becuase they took up at lest 1/3 of the universe.

So as i said in my option it is combined members count that defines blocking, other wise it is more of just a collective.

[Aviendha1975]

Originally posted by Fifth_teletubbie
heh, if that happens then what I'll look forward to most are the threads on AD of alliance X accusing alliance Y of having agreements with alliance Z (all with such irrefutable evidence as 2 newsscans of course) etc etc etc.

It'll be great!!

Ah, but who cares if it's wrong, if you don't care about possible relations, you might as well kill whatever looks good, why not a suspect That's why you should just launch instead of coordinate the entire thing with x alliances together, forget the planning, just be annoying, PA is so much more fun then hehe

[Maddix]

Makes sense to me for everyone to go solo in R9.5 and try it out....you never know you might like it!

Of course this won't happen tho as you'll always get someone so desperate to win, even a half round, that they won't want to risk getting attacked by anyone.

[TehVader]

Originally posted by Faberius
I've never thought of powerblocks as evil. I've been on the losing side and the winning side of powerblocks, and I've never thought of them as the actual reason for stagnation, and I've never believed the arguments against blocking.

I think that when people (more than likely people who are not leaders of alliances) have problems with blocks, its more of an excuse as to why they are bored (if they are winning) or why they lost (if they are losing).

I've always enjoyed blocking, especially at the start of the round, for the political manoevering. I wouldn't see much more of a reason myself of playing pa if the creators neuter that aspect of the game.

I've always thought that there are more political manoevering in a random round than a private one. Atleast that's what it looked like in r8

[Faberius]

there are pros and cons to random and private rounds. I like being in private galaxies because I like being with people I know.

Random rounds are better for politics because a lot more shifting can go on, and although there is blocking, there are usually more than 2-3 blocks competing. Round 8 was a good example of this.

[Anihilat0r]

Originally posted by Hurragutten
Would that include ND and ETY breaking up Auld?

Auld is no more

[Fifth_teletubbie]

Originally posted by Aviendha1975
Ah, but who cares if it's wrong, if you don't care about possible relations, you might as well kill whatever looks good, why not a suspect That's why you should just launch instead of coordinate the entire thing with x alliances together, forget the planning, just be annoying, PA is so much more fun then hehe

OMG You're absolutely right!!

It all seems so simple now, why didnt you tell me this before ?!?!?

[Faberius]

Originally posted by Aviendha1975
What's wrong with Cochese's idea from a while back?

You and I know how hard it is to get everyone in the same room, let alone make them agree on anything but that being in the same room sucks :P

[Wrath of Azure]

Are players against an alliance having allies or just against powerblocks on the scale of FLTV, VvomM, WEET?

Surely having allies cant be synonymous with powerblocking? Can it? A 'powerblock' to me means...well, a collection of supersized (or just 1337 alliances) that needs another block to stand up against them. I dont think 'forcing' all alliances to go solo is the way to go in the future.

[Provider]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
Are players against an alliance having allies or just against powerblocks on the scale of FLTV, VvomM, WEET?

Surely having allies cant be synonymous with powerblocking? Can it? A 'powerblock' to me means...well, a collection of supersized (or just 1337 alliances) that needs another block to stand up against them. I dont think 'forcing' all alliances to go solo is the way to go in the future.

Meaning that you as Seraphim HC are one of the few who says here that Seraphim wont even try to go solo?

If one alliance gets an allie then the others might also.. Then one wants a third allie and tada we are back to blocking. So imo all those alliances are against allies, naps and with that against any excuse to form a block.

Just work alone.

[Wrath of Azure]

I wasnt speaking for the alliance, just my personal views

[Provider]

Okay and can you speak for your alliance now. Will Seraphim go alone?

[Wrath of Azure]

Yes, Seraphim is going alone. We will not have any allies in 9.5

[themast]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
Yes, Seraphim is going alone. We will not have any allies in 9.5

thats a shame

[Wrath of Azure]

Wanna explain to me why it's a shame?

[TehVader]

He obviously wanted to ally his alliance with Seraphim to create a superblock to win the round

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by TehVader
He obviously wanted to ally his alliance with Seraphim to create a superblock to win the round

I suppose, he surely lost me with his words

[OXX]

The idea of going Solo is way to optimistic! Even if no one has allies before the round starts (which I highly doubt) Alliances and NaPs will surely be made during the round, Also there s nothing wrong with this but having everyone state it on Ad is pointless.

Pa is a war game which no one alliance can win alone, i dont mind people allying as long as a blaance is kept.

OXX

[MrL_JaKiri]

It would be better to have a fluid arrangement, but that's not possible (realistically), so we're going for the next best thing.

[Zh|l]

I'm betting £10 that the winners of r9.5 wont have done it solo.

[Wrath of Azure]

Originally posted by Zh|l
I'm betting £10 that the winners of r9.5 wont have done it solo.

Come on Zhil, that's a safe bet Be risky, bet that they will do it alone

[Ultramar]

I'd like to say i'll take that bet, but i'd only end up losing

[DukePaul]

Originally posted by Zh|l
I'm betting £10 that the winners of r9.5 wont have done it solo.

ofcourse they wont, but that gives all the losing alliances a reason why they didnt win, as they have more guts etc going alone

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Wrath of Azure
Come on Zhil, that's a safe bet Be risky, bet that they will do it alone

Safe bet = keep money

PS: Some unscrupulous individuals may take this to mean Eclipse is up to something n0rty. It isnt (as far as I know)

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Zh|l
I'm betting £10 that the winners of r9.5 wont have done it solo.

Of course. Since if there is no blocks and everyone does, indeed, go solo, then we wouldn't see such a 'winner' anyway, as the rest of the game probably wouldn't let an alliance run away with it.

[Bootlord]

i thought ecah alliance was going for itself as ever :P