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Lei~ · 2 Mar 2007, 15:05

Vision presents to you:
THE FIRST PA POKER TOURNEY EVER

To bring back a bit of fun to the last days of the round, when most things will probably be decided already anyway, at least most rounds, we have decide to organise a poker tourney on march the 11th, 19:30gmt.

Everyone who wants to measure his skills in the ultimate game of bluff against visions is invited, if he is able to afford the starting fee. Its affordable we think and the whole tournament is meant more as a community event than a poker happening. So meet you on the table. ;-)

We have a set up a channel on netgamers. Join us there for further information #pa.poker

Tournament info
Poker Site: www.pokerroom.com
Game Type: No Limit Texas Hold'Em
Tournament Type: freezeout
Tournament password: papoker
Starting Chips: 1500
Buyin: $5 + $0.5
Date and time: March 11, 19:30 PA Game Time
Minimum Players: 25
Maximum Players: 300
Payout Structure: Flat
IRC room: #pa.poker

Howto: Login on your pokerroom account go under "Tournaments" and "Private" then scroll down till you find "Tresan's NL HE Real $5+$0.50" and sign up for the tournament.

Additional information and prices: You will additionally be playing for a free credit for next round - Top 3 players in the tournament will recieve 1 free credit for next round.

brought to you by Red, Spaceman and Leigon

Allfather · 2 Mar 2007, 15:45

So your members are so poor you need to hustle to get their pafees for next round?

spaceman · 2 Mar 2007, 16:09

how can they afford the $5 if there poor and secondly this is an event for the who comunity not just vision just so happens the people who are setting it up are in vision.

Red- · 2 Mar 2007, 17:33

None has to sign up using the link - But if you do youll be part of the top3 recieves a credit for next round bonus payout - We do not get any take on the tourny itself, so if you dont wanna play for a free credit and dont wanna use the link, then dont.

Its a small time poker tourny to try and have some fun towards end of round and to see if you can beat your pa mates in poker, thats it.

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 18:11

If people sign up and clear enough using the link, you get $50.

You are offering a $5 credit.

This smacks of advertising and should be removed immdietly.

Alki · 2 Mar 2007, 18:12

why pokerroom? its a terrible site, and there are much better ones out there. Also whats with the referral link? trying to make a bit of money on the side? :>

edit-beaten by forest

Red- · 2 Mar 2007, 18:32

Figuring if a few peeps would actually signup trough the site maybe it could pay off the 3 free credits - But by all means dont sign up using the link - We will remove the 3 free credits then and we just play a tournament as it is if its oohh such a big problem. And just to clarify the link does not give $50 it gives a small (single digit) percentage fee of the rake - Wich then actually requires people playing alot on the site to generate $50.

It was just an idear about adding a bit of PA prize to it. Dont like it, dont use the link.

Wandows · 2 Mar 2007, 18:36

Well opposed to all the "positive" reactions above, i think its a nice idea. The setup might have been a bit shakey, but events like this can be very nice are fun to do (if you can spend money online that is). So

to you!

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 18:56

Wandows what they are doing is called 'bonus abuse'

It is also offering a prize for NEW gamblers.

Unethical for these forums.

Wandows · 2 Mar 2007, 19:06

I know that, but i might expect to much from the readers here

. I would assume it would be obvious to those who would signup that it means they have to invest money in a gambling game/portal, thus that they would be cautions and only signup if they are sure of themselves. On the other hand it could be a nice thing for ppl already signed up there, as there might be players here who are actually interested in it. Perhaps its even a start to look for other community game tournaments to start. I agree poker (and the way done here especially) isn't the best way to do it, but i find the reactions here a bit harsh, why not suggest other ways of doing something like this instead of immediatly 'flaming' them?

Lei~ · 2 Mar 2007, 19:06

of really forest, get off it!
what were doing is creating a bit of action as vision has always done.
Just this time it isnt visionwars, but a pokertournament to take our minds of pa while waiting for the tick.

Also i really dont understand all the negativity. If you dont like it dont play. If you dont like the bonus stuff dont use it. We have considered other sites but poker room offers the best service/security mix in our eyes so thats one other point im not ready to discuss about

Wandows · 2 Mar 2007, 19:12

Although to some extent you are right Leigon, you do have to realise not everyone on this forum is of legal age to gamble online (or in some countries its even completely forbidden). So the negative reactions could have been expected. I personally like to play a game of poker so i can certainly understand you the idea of creating a tournament online, but in a you are (whether intentionally or not) advertising for that casino (or whatever it is that runs the site), which is against the forum rules and can certainly be viewed as wrong.

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 19:13

The problem is, you are offering very little as bait, knowing it could bring you great rewards.

If is was just a poker gme for $5 thats one thing, but you didnt. You offered a pa credit for something which will make you money, and potentially a lot of money.

Wandows · 2 Mar 2007, 19:26

I was under the impression the poker game would be normal prize of all buy-in's won by the top X and on top of that the first 3 would get a credit? Might be i understood it wrong with the way i'm used to play poker though.

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 19:31

It states the the top 3 who signed up through the link get a credit.

That means you ahve to click the link, which gives the person who 'owns' the link money, in order to win a credit.

wakey · 2 Mar 2007, 19:42

I have removed the referral id from the link. If you want to use the forum to advertise a community event then that's fine but it shouldn't be reliant on them earning you money in return.

So the thread can stay but I don't want to see you putting the referral id back and I expect that no matter if they used your link or not if they come in the top 3 they get the prize that has been offered

Lei~ · 2 Mar 2007, 19:43

first of all im not the person responsible for that site nor do i earn anything by this link. I admit though that someone does, I think it is Red, and that is simply cos he put together the information and created the link.

The idea of 3 credits for ppl who have to bother signing up a new account in contrast to those who dont have to cos the alrdy have one, seems a good reward for the time for me. Red paid for those and he also set things up so he also gets the bonus. If you dont like that dont use the link. About that link: isnt it usual for an announcement to give reference links where ppl could go on, could take the next step. Thats just what the link is.

About teenaged players and ppl in countries where poker isnt allowed, i hope the software of the site will take care of this. We ofc do not support under age gambling.

newt · 2 Mar 2007, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wakey

and I expect that no matter if they used your link or not if they come in the top 3 they get the prize that has been offered

That sounds like a threat! Hardly fair - I seem to remember PA team publically offering prizes on this site for winners of rounds etc, but didn't actually bother giving them out.

wakey · 2 Mar 2007, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newt

That sounds like a threat! Hardly fair - I seem to remember PA team publically offering prizes on this site for winners of rounds etc, but didn't actually bother giving them out.

Was that a reply to me? If so its not a threat and what PATeam has and hasn't done in the past isn't relevant to my stance. Advertising isn't generally allowed on these forums but as mods we can show some common sense and if its something thats good for the community we will allow it.

However if its a way for someone to make money as the referral link does then no matter how little it may be thats just not on. So if you want the thread to remain as its not about making money but rather helping the community then leave the referral link out and offer the prize to everyone.

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 20:04

Good call

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lei~

I admit though that someone does, I think it is Red, and that is simply cos he put together the information and created the link.

The idea of 3 credits for ppl who have to bother signing up a new account in contrast to those who dont have to cos the alrdy have one, seems a good reward for the time for me. Red paid for those and he also set things up so he also gets the bonus.

Just for the record though, it takes about 2 mins to make the link, the hard work is getting people to click it.

I run my own site and have links to nearly all the main poker rooms, and I offer people a lot of money to use it, knowing it will make me more.

Red- · 2 Mar 2007, 21:13

If you know that much about it Forest then you should know the chances that this poker tournament will even bring in the 15 dollars in revenue isnt that big.

Its not like its a 75 dollars bonus from empirebacker or any deal like that - But ofcause investigating what your accusing people of before going around acusing people is too much to ask for people like you i reckon.

Ps. i dont have any poker referal sites etc. nor have i made any money on refering players to poker sites etc. - This was meant to bring in some PA related prices to the tournament on top of the prices from the normal tournament.

The link we will be removed along with the additional PA prices - We will just play a normal tournament then with no PA prices involved.

Lei~ · 2 Mar 2007, 21:15

i edited out the signup link and all who wanna play will anow simply have to go thru the normal registration process.

hope everyone is happy now

i just wanna play and have fun anyway.

Lei~ · 2 Mar 2007, 21:17

we will keep the additional credits tho. I hope to sponsor them out of my earnings. Of course im gonna swindle you out of your money anyway. So never worry bout me having to pay an extra three credits next round.

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-

But ofcause investigating what your accusing people of before going around acusing people is too much to ask for people like you i reckon.

You offered prizes for people who sign up to a poker site through a revenue earning link.

How much investigation does that need?

Edit: typo.

wakey · 2 Mar 2007, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest

You offered prizes for people who sign up to a poker site through a revenue earning link.

How much investigation does that need?

Edit: typo.

Lets drop it now, the referal links been removed and despite Red- dropping the prizes Legion has stepped up and is going to supply prizes out of his own pocket so no-ones making money out of this (outside any winnings)

As long as the people taking part are old enough and its not illegal in their country to take part then this is a good community initiative

Forest · 2 Mar 2007, 21:35

Wakey may i suggest you now heavily moderate this thread to remove all the issues now that they have been resolved, less they put people off?

p333333 · 3 Mar 2007, 13:29

fs, i hope you are happy now forest. i think you just couldnt stand that maybe a little money would go to the guys taking the initiative to do something more than just be negative. i hope you will earn enough money with your own links so you can't be bothered to hang around here!

adios amigo!

Forest · 3 Mar 2007, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by p333333

fs, i hope you are happy now forest. i think you just couldnt stand that maybe a little money would go to the guys taking the initiative to do something more than just be negative. i hope you will earn enough money with your own links so you can't be bothered to hang around here!

adios amigo!

Yes I am happy ty. I don't see why members of this forum should benefit financially from posting links to gambling.

Man_At_War · 4 Mar 2007, 22:29

bahh why dosn't everyone join '#uno' and pester kloopy to put the bot back and then just have a mass uno contest.

benefits
1. no cost -except time to kloopy of the bot
2. anyone can play (assumeing they know how to play uno)

only downside is if people use unstable Irc connections, or don't use Irc.

and 3. theres a 3+ age limit to #uno with the exception of a few people most of you can play!