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Unread 7 Jan 2011, 02:19   #51
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1. apprime
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Unread 7 Jan 2011, 19:00   #52
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For anyone who does not seem to be in the know the biggest tags will be Ct/Imperia/xvx /Nd with Asc and Apprime making up tags of 30-50 at the rear at most. I think if you take those facts you can see how far off all the pervious predictions were apart from maybe Firebird
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1 nd
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1. Apprime
2. NewDawn
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Unread 7 Jan 2011, 22:52   #55
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1, NGO with the addition of Yoshi & Henrik
2, CT
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1.xVx
2.app
3.ct
4.nd
5.asc
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1 - Apprime
2 - NewDawn
3 - Ascendancy

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Henrik or Dimentus wont win but they might finish 2nd!
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Henrik or Dimentus wont win but they might finish 2nd!
tbh dmnts and henrik and golan.. should all HC Newdawn...
they are all experts in coming in second!! and won't take no for an answer!!
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I would agree with this T5. But I would place xVx as #4 instead of #5.
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#1 - #9 don't care don't know
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I would agree with this T5. But I would place xVx as #4 instead of #5.
Maybe, but with less than 40 members it may prove difficult..
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Apprime making up tags of 30-50 at the rear at most.
I'd roll my eyes at this point but, well, you get the idea.
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Whats ASC doing this round?
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For anyone who does not seem to be in the know the biggest tags will be Ct/Imperia/xvx /Nd with Asc and Apprime making up tags of 30-50 at the rear at most. I think if you take those facts you can see how far off all the pervious predictions were apart from maybe Firebird
Glad you're 'in the know' since I can see 59 in Apprime's tag right now, 15 in Asc's tag and no Imperia tag. Where do I sign up for being in the know?
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Unread 15 Jan 2011, 17:38   #69
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Asc have atleast 60 planets still out of tag, just like them to play the underdog and go for cheap cowardly tactics
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Why isn't there an Imperia tag?
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Why isn't there an Imperia tag?
You must have missed last round? After that sort of performance...
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You must have missed last round? After that sort of performance...
Actually i remember that Titos|idle made a member announcement mid-r39 and promised that (w)Imp would return for next round. Expect them to surface soon!
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I'd be surprised if Asc doesnt win this tbh.
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Actually i remember that Titos|idle made a member announcement mid-r39 and promised that (w)Imp would return for next round. Expect them to surface soon!
Indeed, and one would think an alliance not aiming for #1 would wanna aim for long-term instead.
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I heard Zhi| is gathering up all the former Fury/1up/Eclipse players and playing under the tag, NotDead.
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I heard Zhi| is gathering up all the former Fury/1up/Eclipse players and playing under the tag, NotDead.
Despite Zhil being in charge, the tag [InAComa] was rejected.
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#1: Apprime
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#3: CT
#4: Imperia
#5: Asc.
After 120 ticks and the size of alliances are now known, i'd alter my prediction slightly (considering Imperia and Asc arnt playing).

#1 Apprime
#2 ND
#3 CT
#4 ODDR
#5 Rock

Still going to stick with my original top3 prediction

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Asc is just sneaky enough to pull it off. Mass together at mid round for a wild ride to the top.

Hard to say how we will finish but ROCK is still aiming at top 10 and it would be nice to make the top 5 or 6. We haven't been top 5 in a lot of rounds. I know they ended #5 when I first joined. Maybe that's why they went downhill (hope I'm kidding). Too many top alliances out there to predict anything this early.
I still firmly believe the downfall of Rock (from r28+) which ultimatly led to them disbanding was due to HellKicker HC'ing and trying to play politics with the top alliance's while in a training alliance. Dont make the same mistake again, while Rock has the potential to finish 2nd this round if things swing there way.. Dont get carried away, the worst thing you can do is to start to bleed members through crappy politics.
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Hey Mz look at my previous guesses not been far off the trend.
Trends. Made to be broken.




Although in fairness the second half of my own prediction is looking like it might be somewhat wide of the mark too
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I still firmly believe the downfall of Rock (from r28+) which ultimatly led to them disbanding was due to HellKicker HC'ing and trying to play politics with the top alliance's while in a training alliance. Dont make the same mistake again, while Rock has the potential to finish 2nd this round if things swing there way.. Dont get carried away, the worst thing you can do is to start to bleed members through crappy politics.
Rock hasn't been a training alliance in a long time. And it's perfectly possible (in fact it should be encouraged) for lower tier alliances to get involved in politics.

Well done though for stating the obvious that crappy play (crappy decision making) leads to bad performances and members leaving.
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Rock hasn't been a training alliance in a long time. And it's perfectly possible (in fact it should be encouraged) for lower tier alliances to get involved in politics.
Then if they're not a training alliance.. they're an incredibly shit alliance. I mean, aiming for top6 when you're ranked 3 and your main rivals in rank are ODDR and CT? lol.

Plus, didnt they merge with thehorde? another training alliance?

but hey stupid me for thinking that an alliance which puts in there recruitment thread that they're willing to take on new players and train them up. Infact, they put that what they can offer is training. So, silly me for presuming they're a training alliance.

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My point was, that its always crappy for lower-tiered alliances to get involved in top tier politics, as the reward is nothing and the risk is pwnage if they decide to target you.
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Then if they're not a training alliance.. they're an incredibly shit alliance. I mean, aiming for top6 when you're ranked 3 and your main rivals in rank are ODDR and CT? lol.
Do you really want me to drag out the posts you made as an xVx member in round 31?

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My point was, that its always crappy for lower-tiered alliances to get involved in top tier politics, as the reward is nothing and the risk is pwnage if they decide to target you.
what is your definition of a "lower tiered alliance"? I personally think that just because an alliance is not a full tag, or not competing for a top 3 spot, it doesn't mean they are any less valuable in the event of a war or that they can't play their role in politics in general. Good HC's wont take their alliance into a war without having consideration for the ill effects, or the potential long term benefits of their block winning, that may come their way....in the words of Edmund Burke :

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Do you really want me to drag out the posts you made as an xVx member in round 31?
Round 31 was a pretty bizarre round considering there was only 2 competiting alliances, Asc (a well established and strong alliance) and xVx (a training alliance with a influx of decent members but still with half a core of casuals).

You've then got the situation where xVx had won the round if they wanted to. All they had to do was keep the alliance with the BG's and the round was theres without any effort. At the end though, the HC decided to switch to Asc's side and race for #1 while killing the BGs.

xVx isnt the same situation as Rock is in now. Its a competitive round for them with rank #2-#5 realistically up for grabs. Now, if they was a training alliance.. finished rank 6 is fine, as rank isnt the priority at all. However, if they're not a training alliance.. then aiming for rank #6 is just shitty.

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what is your definition of a "lower tiered alliance"? I personally think that just because an alliance is not a full tag, or not competing for a top 3 spot, it doesn't mean they are any less valuable in the event of a war or that they can't play their role in politics in general. Good HC's wont take their alliance into a war without having consideration for the ill effects, or the potential long term benefits of their block winning, that may come their way....in the words of Edmund Burke :

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
I'd say that a lower tiered alliance is one that has a large portion of its players classed as casual. Obviously, there have been some decent alliances which arnt fulltag like DLR and Vgn which have been useful in times of war.

However, If your alliance is casual (lower tiered).. it doesnt make much sense to engage in war and risk losing all the morale in your alliance.
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Rock is a training ally just to clear that up we taking in players who never played pa before 1 hasn't even grasped you need thousands of ships with xan not hundreds but hey its a learning curve we simply making sure the merge survives the round these new guys learn the game under good tutors who have played the game alongtime if we get higher then expected we will be happy we not going for 1st but we also not gunna sit back either we just focusing on showing players how to play for now
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Any alliance can take in a few new players and train them. A training alliance is what Rock used to be, or alliances like F-Crew were, with a massive concentration on training. Rock is most definitely not a training alliance (edit: obviously they used to be, but this isn't what defines them any more).

The comparison with xVx is quite funny, and yet you (Light) have made zero points on how this is any different. Both alliances had a core of casual players. xVx had an influx of hardcore skilled players, Rock has had an influx of more casual players. If anything, xVx were in the better situation. Rock's aims for the round are completely sensible.

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My point was, that its always crappy for lower-tiered alliances to get involved in top tier politics, as the reward is nothing and the risk is pwnage if they decide to target you.
If, as a lower tier alliance, you get targeted by those in the run for #1, then you've played crappy politics. Don't be shit.
(Explanation: If an alliance wins early, once they've removed all threat of other #1 contenders, they'll go anywhere for roids; lower tier alliances will get targeted. If you don't act to prevent this early win, that's just as bad as making bad actions. If you help out an alliance that's untrustworthy and unlikely to hold up an agreement, that's a bad action. If there's no one trustworthy that you can help to win (or even if there is), you move around and keep the war balanced to avoid the early win. If your alliance alone doesn't have enough force to make the desired effect, you talk to other alliances in similar positions to you and get them thinking along the same lines as you. It's called survival instincts. This is straight up common ****ing sense on how to play good politics as a mid tier alliance.)

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I'd say that a lower tiered alliance is one that has a large portion of its players classed as casual. Obviously, there have been some decent alliances which arnt fulltag like DLR and Vgn which have been useful in times of war.

However, If your alliance is casual (lower tiered).. it doesnt make much sense to engage in war and risk losing all the morale in your alliance.
It has been VGN's goal to have at least somewhat of an impact on the ongoing war ever since it became clear that we became too weak/casual to have a try for #1. As for i am concerned VGN never stepped away of a fight against our traditional foe's (ND/CT) or whichever ally was on top at that moment(r38 NFI). Unfortunately VGN's forces have become too scattered and inactive to ever do this again...
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I am in ROCK now, and I can now rollover and situp!
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for me its a 5 way tango for now, we'll see at tick 500 which two give up first.
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However, If your alliance is casual (lower tiered).. it doesnt make much sense to engage in war and risk losing all the morale in your alliance.
Yes.
It's mutch better to wait it out, then see if the once that win's the war, let it be the awsomeness that's Cain, or the Angry bird that some times can fly.
Surely they won't turn for roids once the war is won.
That would be wrong to asume!

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However, If your alliance is casual (lower tiered).. it doesnt make much sense to engage in war and risk losing all the morale in your alliance.
Always found war to be good for ODDR moral, A were in this together kind of thing, we'll get ****ed on some days, other days we'll do the ****ing.

If you play good politics, a lower tier alliance can do well each round, while even being hit by any top 5 alliance now and then cause you joined a war.
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If you're small. a war can keep you occupied, help you learn so you get better and can give you a free hit as a bonus because the bigger alliance has bigger fish to worry about than you if you're smart.
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Like horde did to RR last round.
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So when is Ascendency going to tag up and release the awesomeness of Cat XP whoring?
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Like horde did to RR last round.
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Is RR playing this round or still getting therapy for the trauma?
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#1 - ND
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#1 - App
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#3 - ND
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