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are 1 up playing this rd
seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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18 Apr 2006, 08:33
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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They're waiting until their cruiser fleets are rdy
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18 Apr 2006, 08:34
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by gzambo
seems strange to see them so low down the rankings , are they not playing seriously this rd or just trying to stay out of top 5 till after tick 120
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what's special about tick 120?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Zh|l
what's special about tick 120?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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what's special about tick 120?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
I assume they're doing what eXilition did in round 15, and adding people to the alliance tag as they need defence or are sending defence.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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It's when shit alliances can start recruiting past 60, I think.
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18 Apr 2006, 09:36
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
They're waiting until their cruiser fleets are rdy
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doubt it since they got pure FR BG(s).
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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doubt it since they got pure FR BG(s).
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We do? Thats a ****ing great idea - why didn't we think of it
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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18 Apr 2006, 09:52
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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We do? Thats a ****ing great idea - why didn't we think of it
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Ohh but he just claims you DID think of it !!
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18 Apr 2006, 10:01
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
Ohh but he just claims you DID think of it !!
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Hmm - mebbe then. I've been sleeping a lot lately.
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Banned
It's when shit alliances can start recruiting past 60, I think.
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Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
They are trying to pull an Ascendancy.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
Did he accuse someone of not playing in the rules?
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18 Apr 2006, 10:25
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Rc mayhem
Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
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Correct, however the rule about alliancelimits is rubbish (imo)...
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18 Apr 2006, 10:30
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Vitriolic
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Heartless
They are trying to pull an Ascendancy.
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How can anyone 'pull an ascendancy' with the XP forumla as it is?
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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18 Apr 2006, 10:32
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Rc mayhem
Any alliance can recruit over the initial 60 members limit. Playing to the rules does not make an alliance any worse than any other.
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Any alliance can't really. You expect 1up to drop out of the t5 at all this round?
Only the shit ones can.
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18 Apr 2006, 10:51
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Only the shit ones can.
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Kinda like ND last round then (the ended #7 and therefor were able to recruit more members then the initial top5 limit). I'm not saying ND did (they didn't) but they however had the ability to.
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18 Apr 2006, 10:54
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
the only reason ND dropped out of the t5 was because they didnt recruit and they kicked a t50 member for breaking alliance rules.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
Or, then, they're doing what's been done before and aren't putting members into their tag until they need to. I suppose that can be found "useful" to an extent.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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I assume they're doing what eXilition did in round 15, and adding people to the alliance tag as they need defence or are sending defence.
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that would involve some kind of planning/activity/organisation ..... heh.
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by The_Fish
the only reason ND dropped out of the t5 was because they didnt recruit and they kicked a t50 member for breaking alliance rules.
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Could be, yet my point still stands.
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18 Apr 2006, 11:34
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
it's just too blatant that 1up have merged with exilition into omen !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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it's just too blatant that 1up have merged with exilition into omen !
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We woulda got away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids!!
«/scoobydoo»
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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18 Apr 2006, 11:45
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
Mazzelar stop spamming useful comments. Oh wait...damn...
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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it's just too blatant that 1up have merged with exilition into omen !
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In that case ... good luck Keizari
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18 Apr 2006, 12:04
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I see you!
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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We're thinking of changing our name to Novus Ordo Seclorum.
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18 Apr 2006, 12:05
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
Ah NoS. First they told us they didn't exist and we believed them. Unfortunately then they started believing they didn't exist and they vanished. Rene was right
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18 Apr 2006, 12:18
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
last round is strange as Ascendancy suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the #1 spot 40 million points clear and that on its own knocked the stuffing out of lots of alliances, as no one had any reason to play because the win had already been decided.
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18 Apr 2006, 12:20
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Rene was right
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From 'Allo 'Allo?
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18 Apr 2006, 12:23
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by lokken
last round is strange as Ascendancy suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the #1 spot 40 million points clear and that on its own knocked the stuffing out of lots of alliances, as no one had any reason to play because the win had already been decided.
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This works great if, like last round, it's nearly impossible to fight an XP alliance. If you're value based, then reducing a gap of 40 mill is easy ("relatively ofc") ... you just gotta roid them and kill their fleets (good old blocking).
A tactic which is useless against an XP alliance. Only remote thing you can do is defend EACH target they're hitting, which is impossible for 1 alliance to handle, because they'll just switch to another alliance they can raid easily.
And even then, all you do is damage control. It's not like you greatly reduce their score.
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18 Apr 2006, 12:29
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
This works great if, like last round, it's nearly impossible to fight an XP alliance. If you're value based, then reducing a gap of 40 mill is easy ("relatively ofc") ... you just gotta roid them and kill their fleets (good old blocking).
A tactic which is useless against an XP alliance. Only remote thing you can do is defend EACH target they're hitting, which is impossible for 1 alliance to handle, because they'll just switch to another alliance they can raid easily.
And even then, all you do is damage control. It's not like you greatly reduce their score.
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18 Apr 2006, 12:31
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BlueTuba
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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From 'Allo 'Allo?
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You stupid woman
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18 Apr 2006, 12:43
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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No alliance ever really has their score reduced absolutely anymore. They just get their growth reduced to sub 2% or so.
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2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.
If you kill someone's fleet (value), you reduce his score (not his XP).
Maybe in general it's hard to reduce the score of an alliance, but by killing their value you'll greatly increase the possibility that you can close the gap fast.
Killing fleets of XP players is useless since they only need little ships to gain XP. Reducing their value actually increased their next XP gain.
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18 Apr 2006, 12:44
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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one of the better one liners from any comedy soap the last 10 years
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18 Apr 2006, 12:48
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Kjeldoran
2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.
If you kill someone's fleet (value), you reduce his score (not his XP).
Maybe in general it's hard to reduce the score of an alliance, but by killing their value you'll greatly increase the possibility that you can close the gap fast.
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That was what I said...
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Killing fleets of XP players is useless since they only need little ships to gain XP. Reducing their value actually increased their next XP gain.
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Only up to a point. I had a few dodgy days when I didn't have enough resources to rebuild my fleet fully and could only send 2 fleets out. Other days when it was only barely enough to send 3 fleets and I had to reduce what I could hit.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by mazzelaar
How can anyone 'pull an ascendancy' with the XP forumla as it is?
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Keeping members outside the tag to make you less strong
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18 Apr 2006, 13:32
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
eXilition did that. Remember teh lite?
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Keeping members outside the tag to make you less strong
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Being out of tag doesn't make you less strong. It actually draws more attention in the case of 1up as this thread goes to prove.
Ascendancy used not having people in tag to exploit the fact no-one had thought of the simple yet telling tactics of 'XP whoring' and to keep them well away from the top until it was too late for anyone to wise up to the tactic or make a difference to thier score of any real significance. Given that this scenario is impossible this round the two cannot be compared. Thus, 1up could not possibly be 'pulling an ascendancy'. Mkay?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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18 Apr 2006, 13:51
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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We woulda got away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids!!
«/scoobydoo»
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Up The Hatters!
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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2 rounds ago I lost 80% of my fleet (but my FR's) and thereby lost like alot value and alot score.
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That was when I landed on you.
*giggles with glee*
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
In a battle between kargool and kj there can be only one winner.
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18 Apr 2006, 14:06
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
everyone else.
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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everyone else.
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18 Apr 2006, 14:22
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
ohh another jbg and lokken joke ... funny
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18 Apr 2006, 14:33
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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That was when I landed on you.
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More then one waves landed on me to cause the loss of 80% fleet. Though I don't doubt one of those waves was you
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18 Apr 2006, 14:47
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Insomniac
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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ohh another jbg and lokken joke ... funny
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18 Apr 2006, 14:51
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Angels for life !
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by Phil^
it was
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that's what I said, not?
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18 Apr 2006, 15:47
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Vitriolic
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Re: are 1 up playing this rd
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Originally Posted by jerome
on a totally unrelated note how do you do those little double <-ey things? or are they automatically featured on modern keyboards these days and i'm just behind the times now?
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Use synergy and have different key mappings on your windows box and linux box. It's very annoying, particularly when you know you have the right keymapping on each box and can't fix it
It's supposed to be a greater than.
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<@JBG> by the way is mazzelaar a community account that everyone in 1up logs into when they're feeling angry?
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mazzelaar has always reminded me of a hungry hungry hippo. Except instead of eating marbles he just bites the heads off new AD posters
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