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18 Oct 2007, 11:43
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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"Sloop John B".
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Is that the actual name of the song? I thought it might be something else, but most people wouldn't have known what i meant.
Sometimes recognition is more important than accuracy duder
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18 Oct 2007, 11:47
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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What is it about Tyneside that turns all men over the age of 20 into would-be Hitlers?
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18 Oct 2007, 11:47
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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My reference there is more a personal one; I don't 'get' a lot from Wagner and surely even his fans would conceed that 'Walkure' stands out. If you're a fan, then it seems like an awfully strange choice tbh.
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Keeping away from the rest of the Ring cycle for the examples, whilst the opening to the third act of Die Walkure is bombastic in a way that a lot of Wagner's music isn't (Tannhauser and T&I, for example, never come close to it in that regard), there are bits of Lohengrin and Die Fliegender Hollander that are similar ( www.jakiri.co.uk/Hollander.mp3 for 25s from the middle of it).
It is probably the second best known piece of Wagner music though, and the best known if people actually have to know that it's connected with him.
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Is that the actual name of the song? I thought it might be something else, but most people wouldn't have known what i meant.
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Yes, the name of the song is Sloop John B (trad. W. Indies).
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I had to think about it for a while before I realised what song you were talking about, and I actually own the album it's on. Why not use the actual title? It's not like people can't google for the lyrics if they're unsure.
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18 Oct 2007, 11:51
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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I'm the only one of us who'll ever actually be asked.
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18 Oct 2007, 12:00
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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I had to think about it for a while before I realised what song you were talking about, and I actually own the album it's on. Why not use the actual title? It's not like people can't google for the lyrics if they're unsure.
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Well you're not exactly typical are you?
Imo more people would know it from the title i used than Sloop John B. At least most people I know (and myself).
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18 Oct 2007, 12:00
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Well you're not exactly typical are you?
Imo more people would know it from the title i used than Sloop John B. At least most people I know (and myself).
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Then you know idiots.
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18 Oct 2007, 12:11
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Then you know idiots.
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18 Oct 2007, 12:34
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Ask xttz about freighter escorts and you'd see the two statements are entirely consistent.
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18 Oct 2007, 12:42
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Ask xttz about freighter escorts and you'd see the two statements are entirely consistent.
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Can't i just ask you instead? I don't know this xttz fellow.
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18 Oct 2007, 13:28
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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What is it about Tyneside that turns all men over the age of 20 into would-be Hitlers?
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Our barbers only know one way. The way of short back and sides.
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18 Oct 2007, 13:30
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Can't i just ask you instead? I don't know this xttz fellow.
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You don't know xtothez?
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18 Oct 2007, 13:42
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no i don't.
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18 Oct 2007, 19:18
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Re: Desert Island Discs
OK, i was thinking about this whilst reading through everyone's replies, and it seems I'll be breaking from the mold a bit in avoiding more modern music, by and large (and also dodging the really obscure indie stuffs).
So, songs wise, I'd go for:
Pachelbel's Canon in D a true copy, with the harpsichord.
I honestly can't think of a single piece that manages, listen after listen, to inspire the same level of emotional response that this does in me. I'll admit it's not the best example of baroque music, but it's certainly my favorite
Dvorak's New world symphony if I'm not cheating, then just the second movement.
This is a truly epic collection of music (I'm not sure if I'd be allowed all four movement's as one "song", but I'm assuming here that i am). As nodrog said somewhere earlier, the best bet if you really are on a desert island is to pick things you can listen to over and over again, and hear something new each time, and I'm inclined to agree with him, and this ensemble would certainly fit into that category
Vivaldi's four seasons again, if the whole collective isn't allowed as one choice, just spring.
This is chosen for much the same reasons as the New world symphony really, but yet again it is a beautiful collection of music
Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture A version with the canon fire.
In places much less flowery, poncey classical than some of my above choices, every once and a while you just want to imagine Parliament blowing up, whilst some masked lunatic pretends to conduct explosions, ranting about Guy Fawkes. In all seriousness this is yet another fantastic piece that is great for just chilling the f*ck out.
Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, 1st movement
It really wouldn't be fair to assemble this list without some mention of Mozart, and as one of the most instantly recognised pieces of music the world over (if not by name, anyone hearing it will know what I'm on about), this piece was the one I decided to go for.
Beethoven's Fur Elise
A simply magnificent piano piece, for when I don't quite feel up to some of the more epic works above, or when the hard working life on a desert island gets too much.
And now for something completely different:
Spirit of the age by Hawkwind
Many of you may not have heard of hawkwind, so allow me to explain: They are, basically, a space rock band from '69 who are, apparently, still going strong to this day. This particular song is just brilliant, and the opening track from, as far as I'm concerned, their best album, Quark, Strangeness and Charm.
Grow up and blow away by metric
This song probably looks rather out of place on this list, but I couldn't help but tip my hat to a band that, I believe, are pretty much the only indie group worth listening to.
Toy/non-essential and book
This sort of goes along with Gordon's opinion that you need something you can read over and over, and in this case the non-essential goes along with the book.
What I'd go for is a brewing kit. Something I could produce my own beer in/with and kegs to store it in (and naturally some kind of a drinking implement, although that probably comes under essentials, so I'm safe).
Naturally, my somewhat limited experience brewing would need to be supplemented, and that's where my choice of book comes in. The book I would go for is Designing Great Beers or something very much like it, that explains, in detail, the science and other details behind the craft of brewing. Some may think of this as very much of a typical student choice, but I would personally cherish the chance to finally create my own perfect pint.
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26 Oct 2007, 20:34
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Re: Desert Island Discs
Dire Straits: Romeo and Juliet
Punkins: Disarm
Floyd: Comfortably Numb
Cars: All Mixed Up and Just What I Needed
Nine Inch Nails: three tracks from spiral, probably Closer, Ruiner, and Reptile.
Honorable mention: Wings for Marie and Losing my Religion. i guess these are 'taken'.
book:
I find myself thinking this is highly dependent on whether I plan on eventually being rescued or not. Assuming I was to be rescued, I'd want something that I could learn and/or improve myself from (applied microbiology or somesuch). Otherwise, I'd want whichever book I'm going to eke out the maximum entertainment value over the long haul (after Nod, probably something extremely big and difficult).
Easy answer is Catch-22 (not going the nod route). Obvious problem is that if I've already read it, I'd prefer something else, but if I haven't read it, I might not even like it, which would be a complete disaster. I think we assume here that we will be on the island long enough that initial potential enjoyment bump from reading something for the first time would be negligible compared to the rereadability of whatever.
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Again, dependent on whether I'll eventually get off this damnable island. If I was planning on eventual rescue, I'd want a journal so I could support the eventual ghost writer of my best-seller.
To be honest, though, I can't imagine living without my TI-86 in reach (yes, nerd alert.), whether or not I was to eventually be saved. I can entertain myself pretty much forever with short programs playing with number theory etc. Assuming batteries aren't an issue. Also, I've gone minutes at a time without being able to solve for an exact d given known values of lambda and theta in lambda = 2d Sin theta, and those are minutes I don't care to relive.
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26 Oct 2007, 20:39
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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Also, I've gone minutes at a time without being able to solve for an exact d given known values of lambda and theta in lambda = 2d Sin theta, and those are minutes I don't care to relive.
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"Exact"
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27 Oct 2007, 02:51
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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"Exact"
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alternatively, "a value with enough significant figures that my result is limited instrumentally in accuracy, as opposed to being limited by the accuracy of linear estimates based on my mentally tabulated values for different lambdas and thetas" if you prefer.
ps: The philosophy behind Nietzsche's work is somewhat opposed to the Wagnerean concepts that influenced the third reich, true story.
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27 Oct 2007, 11:18
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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ps: The philosophy behind Nietzsche's work is somewhat opposed to the Wagnerean concepts that influenced the third reich, true story.
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I didn't know the Third Reich was so influenced by what basically amounts to "True Love Conquers All".
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27 Oct 2007, 13:07
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Re: Desert Island Discs
On second thoughts, I'd probably take the first two Red Dwarf books in the special edition.
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Re: Desert Island Discs
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I didn't know the Third Reich was so influenced by what basically amounts to "True Love Conquers All".
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'Nazism - the Greatest Love Story Ever Told.'
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