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1 Apr 2011, 20:55
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#operations
The Omega HC channel is now public, so you can all watch how we fail from the inside!
/j #operations
Enjoy!
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1 Apr 2011, 21:11
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
Nice, timmeh.
But yeah, don't expect constant chatter, but anything we need to say will be said in that channel, and everyone's welcome to join in.
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4 Apr 2011, 16:52
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Re: #operations
Is there actually anyone beside yoshika who believes this? raise hands pls
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4 Apr 2011, 18:24
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Re: #operations
Bit like if anyone believes Apprime will stay at 40 members this round. -_-
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4 Apr 2011, 18:30
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
Tbh I don't really care if people believe it or not. It's one of those things that's ultimately impossible to either prove or disprove, so people can either take it on face based on what they read in the channel, or shut up about it.
And DS, that's a good analogy. Especially as they're on 41 now, and we know of at least another 2 still out of tag. They're keeping their biggest planets out of tag to underplay their score.
Shocker.
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4 Apr 2011, 18:35
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red looks good on me eh
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by Dark-Strider
Bit like if anyone believes Apprime will stay at 40 members this round. -_-
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yea coz that round we said we would not become 50+ planets intag even if it meant blocking against us. Guess what, our tag didnt go over 48 planets. Same as this round, we will stay around 40 planets ally. it might be 41 or 48 or 49, not more.
and tbh every1 with decent intel believes it and know it. Even the same club of app bashers know it, but their only mission is too potray app as untrustworthy deceivers.
that means majority disagrees with u DS
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4 Apr 2011, 18:43
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red looks good on me eh
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Re: #operations
kenny whats a shocker is u are asking CT for a coords exchange. Because u told them app will tag up and omega/ct need to stick together. IDK what ct will do, coz they will compete with omega for #1
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4 Apr 2011, 18:49
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN
kenny whats a shocker is u are asking CT for a coords exchange. Because u told them app will tag up and omega/ct need to stick together. IDK what ct will do, coz they will compete with omega for #1
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Hopefully they murder you irl so these posts will stop...
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4 Apr 2011, 18:56
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red looks good on me eh
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Re: #operations
JBG dont shoot the messenger bro
im pretty sure u know about this mate coz i know ur intel dont suck.
peace out
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4 Apr 2011, 19:30
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by Kenny
And DS, that's a good analogy. Especially as they're on 41 now, and we know of at least another 2 still out of tag. They're keeping their biggest planets out of tag to underplay their score.
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It's actually a waste for a godlike awesome person like me to respond to some lowlife avg player like you Kenny but what 2 biggest planets ain't in app? I was a planet that just got added to tag and i'm rank 860 or so. Ah wait biggest in terms of awesomeness... you we're actually right
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4 Apr 2011, 19:35
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN
kenny whats a shocker is u are asking CT for a coords exchange. Because u told them app will tag up and omega/ct need to stick together. IDK what ct will do, coz they will compete with omega for #1
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In no private message or channel has a conversation taken place in which I've suggested/hinted at Conspiracy and Omega needing to 'stick together'. I told gm pre-round that I still owed him for his help in R38 and wasn't going to start a war with CT for the sake of rankings, and nothing has changed.
Also, you're just pissed off that I asked them about half an hour before Cain did.
And no, we don't have any spies in CT. Pretty feeble effort at pitting us against each other, lads!
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4 Apr 2011, 19:38
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by Cain
Define "we".
It's actually a waste for a godlike awesome person like me to respond to some lowlife avg player like you Kenny but what 2 biggest planets ain't in app? I was a planet that just got added to tag and i'm rank 860 or so. Ah wait biggest in terms of awesomeness... you we're actually right
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Heh. Funny how I make the post about App having OOT planets, and then the very next tick you have 3 more planets show up.
You might well be the better player, but you're awful at the forums. Next time don't waste your time replying as you'll have lost your argument before you've finished typing.
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4 Apr 2011, 19:40
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN
and tbh every1 with decent intel believes it and know it. Even the same club of app bashers know it, but their only mission is too potray app as untrustworthy deceivers.
that means majority disagrees with u DS
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As much as people enjoy portraying Apprime as 'untrustworthy deceivers' the fact that three of your HCs continue to post largely non-sensical crap all over these forums doesn't really benefit your cause. Maybe if you let someone with a brain post you'd find that your reputation could change.
Nah, probably not.
Oh, and the majority of the planetarion community would tend to agree with Dark-Strider on this one, because, well, no one believes anything you morons say.
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4 Apr 2011, 20:02
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by nolezy
As much as people enjoy portraying Apprime as 'untrustworthy deceivers' the fact that three of your HCs continue to post largely non-sensical crap all over these forums doesn't really benefit your cause. Maybe if you let someone with a brain post you'd find that your reputation could change.
Nah, probably not.
Oh, and the majority of the planetarion community would tend to agree with Dark-Strider on this one, because, well, no one believes anything you morons say.
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Apprime has no hc's. We don't need to benefit our cause/reputation since we can win if we want even when behaving like deseased monkeys. You also can't speak for the majority of the community so that point is invalid until the majority of the community shows up and says this.
Kenny Looked you need to calm down pal.
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4 Apr 2011, 20:19
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by Kenny
Heh. Funny how I make the post about App having OOT planets, and then the very next tick you have 3 more planets show up.
You might well be the better player, but you're awful at the forums. Next time don't waste your time replying as you'll have lost your argument before you've finished typing.
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Yea damn u caught us there Kenny. Ofcos we planned that when kenny will post we will add 3 more planets the very next tick. Took us days to plan it but somehow we couldnt fool u!
Also aint u abit awfull on the forums aswell? I remember last round u were supposed to join CT and "help" them, but they attacked you in havoc and u emo'd out. Yea man u r so reliable
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4 Apr 2011, 20:36
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Re: #operations
I can't believe part of kenny's argument involved tacitly acknowledging that max was a better pa player than him.
That makes me so sad
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4 Apr 2011, 20:37
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN
Also aint u abit awfull on the forums aswell? I remember last round u were supposed to join CT and "help" them, but they attacked you in havoc and u emo'd out. Yea man u r so reliable
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Huh? I've never emo'd because of anything in havoc, wtf are you on about? I never even had an account in R39, let alone played the havoc leading up to R40. What I did was make a recruitment vid for them (mostly because I was bored), write a recruitment post for them (which duck posted), approached DLR (ReligFree, specifically) and told him to consider taking DLR to CT as a BG (which he eventually did) and then did what I do and created a bit of forum drama, thereby increasing their prensence on the boards whilst making them look good (by villainising myself).
I'll introduce you to the differences between 'the bigger picture' and 'aesthetics' when I'm feeling a bit more charitable.
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4 Apr 2011, 20:41
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Re: #operations
I can understand the sceptics but cudos for trying something different.
edit: thought i'd add that isnt it a shame that doing something new is now being done on irc rather than in the actual game of PA
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5 Apr 2011, 07:01
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Re: #operations
ok.. so omega has a 5k roid lead so far, and more planets than all the rest...
will CT and ND forget last round's "issues" and decide to talk to rock about taking down Omega before the rnd ends in 200 tics time?
or has one of those alliances already commited not to hit omega?
Maybe some smaller alliances also have pledged to stick by omega?
Or is it to early for this convo?
Regards,
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5 Apr 2011, 08:07
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by VampiriA
ok.. so omega has a 5k roid lead so far, and more planets than all the rest...
will CT and ND forget last round's "issues" and decide to talk to rock about taking down Omega before the rnd ends in 200 tics time?
or has one of those alliances already commited not to hit omega?
Maybe some smaller alliances also have pledged to stick by omega?
Or is it to early for this convo?
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No. They're all going to block against you. I'm in the middle of trying to get TGV to join them as well fyi.
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5 Apr 2011, 08:10
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by MaxMilliaN
yea coz that round we said we would not become 50+ planets intag even if it meant blocking against us. Guess what, our tag didnt go over 48 planets. Same as this round, we will stay around 40 planets ally. it might be 41 or 48 or 49, not more.
and tbh every1 with decent intel believes it and know it. Even the same club of app bashers know it, but their only mission is too potray app as untrustworthy deceivers.
that means majority disagrees with u DS
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you do realise that, mathematically speaking, around 40 is a max of 44, whilst 48 or 49 is around 50. So if ur gonna lie why stop at 49 all of a sudden? i mean surely if you intend to go around 50 you might as well go up to 54 and hide ur weakest links.
ohw crap i forgot, apprime does not have weak links... well beside ur forum propaganda machine that is.
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5 Apr 2011, 12:13
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
score contribution is 50, not 60 mate.
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5 Apr 2011, 14:19
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Re: #operations
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
No. They're all going to block against you. I'm in the middle of trying to get TGV to join them as well fyi.
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good to know apprime scare the shit out of you and everyone, even when they are smaller tag.Keep it up PAL
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5 Apr 2011, 15:55
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Re: #operations
I think the issue here is that they just don't like you, not that you make them poop their pants in sheer terror.
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5 Apr 2011, 18:43
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Re: #operations
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good to know apprime scare the shit out of you and everyone, even when they are smaller tag.Keep it up PAL
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Maybe next time you can throw in some smileys and really own the shit out of everyone you drooling imbecile.
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5 Apr 2011, 19:00
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Re: #operations
ah this takes me back to R28 , when most of you guys were all in one alliance, laughed my ass off everytime i got online
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6 Apr 2011, 05:26
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Re: #operations
nothing but on/off messages and idling in there so far... when does the good stuff start LOL
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6 Apr 2011, 06:25
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Re: #operations
They did kick someone for building ships to help in alliance defense yesterday, that was a bit amusing.
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6 Apr 2011, 12:41
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Re: #operations
It was the wrong ships, and they were ****ing awful. There's no point building useless ships, especially when they've specifically been told not to build them on account of them being shit.
aNgRyDuCk, what would you classify as 'the good stuff'? :P
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Hired Thug
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Re: #operations
oh you know, your basic PA HC drama, in fighting and the like we need some PA Jerry Springer dude, or what's the point
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7 Apr 2011, 21:20
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Re: #operations
All of blue tubas channels were open back in the day you ****ing amateur
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Re: #operations
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All of blue tubas channels were open back in the day you ****ing amateur
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Did anyone allude to them not having open channels? What does that have to do with anyone being an amateur?
mz may have stepped down, but you're doing quite the capable job in his stead.
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Re: #operations
ok carebear calm yourself down
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Re: #operations
Why has the ''block'' omega made with DLR/TGV not been discussed in the chan. Or is there an officer chan next to this 1 where all politics are being decided? nice..
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10 Apr 2011, 22:48
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Re: #operations
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Why has the ''block'' omega made with DLR/TGV not been discussed in the chan. Or is there an officer chan next to this 1 where all politics are being decided? nice..
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There is no block with TGV in it. As simple as that.
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Re: #operations
I heard you had blocked up to... the TGV in my galaxy were discussing it. Why keep up the pretence when we all know it to be true - just admit and show your colours...
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Re: #operations
Our block is to solidify our lead in the universe and to pummel inferior alliances into dust. There is no reason to discuss that which is already known.
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10 Apr 2011, 23:12
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Valle is my hero
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Re: #operations
so if DLR isnt playing ball will TGV swap in the CT/ROCK block that is forming and take on Omega??
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Re: #operations
It's irrelevant, we're confident the DLR/omega block can subdue any and all resistance.
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Re: #operations
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Why has the ''block'' omega made with DLR/TGV not been discussed in the chan. Or is there an officer chan next to this 1 where all politics are being decided? nice..
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I did not have sexual relations with that woman
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Which is why DLR is prelaunched at me tonight?
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We're about 3 hrs away from having a target up yet tonight.
So i'n kinda doubting DLR is PLed on you.
Well, unless maybe Relig is off soloing or something.
The only ally HC I've even discussed politics with since it started ticking is Cardi. He's been poundin the pavement trying to work up support for hitting Omega.
All of our targeting this round has come from picking gals off the sandmans ratio list & hitting the one with the least anti BS.
We're not blocked, we're not targeting anyone, we're not avoiding anyone.
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Re: #operations
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I did not have sexual relations with that woman
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We're not blocked, we're not targeting anyone, we're not avoiding anyone.
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Lies!
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10 Apr 2011, 23:37
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Up The Hatters!
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Re: #operations
I am actually going to make a promise. The only political agreements TGV will do this round, will be visisble for everyone to see on the alliance page under the universe screen.
Any other agreements you hear TGV are involved in, feel free to come and see me, and I will prove to you otherwise.
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Re: #operations
Yes but what about the fury/legion/omega/xanadu block?!?!?! And the ascendancy/1up/exilition/omega block?!?!?!
It's pretty funny that now the universe is so small that it's actually difficult to make up even vaguely believable lies about who the other guy is blocked with. Cudos to cain for still putting in the effort though!
Edit: I use the word "effort" in the loosest sense possible.
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Re: #operations
looking at alliance relations it seems ND has nap'd Omega. With such a small universe, #1 and #3 ally have decided to make this round boring.
its strange coz ND used to be an alliance that found it important to "level the playing field"
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11 Apr 2011, 16:14
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Re: #operations
Maybe they're going to level you guys (or try to).
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red looks good on me eh
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Re: #operations
i guess thats the difference between alliances like APP/Exi/Asc and the #1 alliance this round. They dont need to go windowshopping for naps top allies. Coz it makes round boring and just makes u look weak.
but then again: omega is a new ally recruited all pa bigegos for a 1round wonder. They r not interested in a long fun round, because they want fast win. The longer the round goes the bigger chance it will become omega will crumble
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11 Apr 2011, 16:23
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The Video Guy
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Re: #operations
What's that there hiding under the bridge, is it a monster? Is it a monster?
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11 Apr 2011, 16:25
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red looks good on me eh
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 424
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Re: #operations
Hey Kenny: its strange your ally gets 1 night of incs and loses roids. the next day you go begging ND for a nap.
tick 236 and u already became joke of the round
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[eXilition] [Omen] [Quha] [Apprime] [Ğragons]
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Originally Posted by Tesla
I signed up to make sure eX didnt win the round, thanks to your HCs last decision it looks like I succeeded
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11 Apr 2011, 18:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 673
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Re: #operations
Why are you taking ODDR into consideration, were like 10th alliance in universe.
All we did last night was set up a gal in wich we got piggied hard. and now its like, ODDR rock app ct working together, damn this is lol.
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If life hands you lemons, drink more tequila
After the game is over the king and the pawn end up in the same box
HA - asc -rdm-asc-VR- #ODDR - APP
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11 Apr 2011, 18:39
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The Video Guy
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
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Re: #operations
It's just about numbers tbh dude, and likelihood of seeing them make our galscreens red. Being 10th doesn't stop you hitting (another) one of our gals.
You being mates with Apprime isn't something I object to, but it's still worth considering when estimating the number of available hostiles.
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