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Unread 24 Jan 2005, 22:07   #1
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The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

Thursday 3rd February, 21:00, Channel 4, UK.
Tony Robinson builds up more hype and gives Dan Brown a free advertising campaign in the process.


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You give some people a role in a historical comedy from the 80's and they end up thinking they're Ian ****ing Kershaw.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

I have to say I'm not sure what about Robinson's past makes him think he's a qulified historian.
A decade as Rowan Atkinson's sidekick (literally) and a few years burrowing in shallow trenches with beardy archeologists does not a historian maketh.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

He was also in "Maid Marian and her Merry Men" which qualifies him to talk about the period 1100-1800.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

Yes, as it's well known that both Robin and Marion lived for 700 years.
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I have to say I'm not sure what about Robinson's past makes him think he's a qulified historian.
A decade as Rowan Atkinson's sidekick (literally) and a few years burrowing in shallow trenches with beardy archeologists does not a historian maketh.
I said this, but in a style which appeals to the layman.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

Overrated, non-factual fiction.
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Overrated, non-factual fiction.
Are you refering to the programme, the thread, or me?

Also, surely fiction is non-factual by definition?
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He's talking about Time Team isn't he?


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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

I don't think Tony Robinson is trying to be a historian... mainly because a historian wouldn't be much use for the "Real Da Vinci Code". Surely an art expert, or a symbologist, or even a bibular scholar would be better, to make comparisons between the book and reality?
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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Are you refering to the programme, the thread, or me?

Also, surely fiction is non-factual by definition?
I think he means the book, we can't really make any assumptions about the TV show at this stage.

Since the book claims to be factual, and isn't, I think he was using the repitition of theme for emphasis that this isn't true.
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Since the book claims to be factual, and isn't, I think he was using the repitition of theme for emphasis that this isn't true.
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Since the book claims to be factual,
No it doesn't. It says, quite clearly at the beginning, that the "factual areas" are listed in the first page or so. The rest of it, we have to assume, is fictional (although when it comes to a story about what the "true" story of the bible was, who knows if it's fact or fiction).
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

I'm seeing a lot of people claiming things about this book, without actually providing any evidence that supports the bold and sweeping statements they are making.
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Who cares, it's a poor cousin to Foucault's Pendulum anyway.
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Who cares, it's a poor cousin to Foucault's Pendulum anyway.
Indeed.

It starts off so well, then trails off into dull theories and useless trivia about symbols and meanings.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

I've read it, if that qualifies me.

It's entertaining enough if you take it as fiction, but Brown makes a hell of a lot of claims with no reference to sources. As a factual account I'd be highly suspicious.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

SInce when did a presenter/narrator have to be a historian? They employ researchers for that?
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SInce when did a presenter/narrator have to be a historian? They employ researchers for that?
that have to have the right voice, that can only be gained from years of utter and irreprable dullness. i take david attenborough (sp?) as a prime example
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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"All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents and secret rituals in this novel are accurate."
Along with the other facts on that page, the author is stating quite clearly that everything he is stating as fact, is fact. All the rest is quite obviously intended to be fiction.

I'm still at a loss as to exactly what Jakiri is saying isn't "factual" about a fictional novel that clearly states on it's first page what it is representing as fact.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

presumably, the rest of it
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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Who cares, it's a poor cousin to Foucault's Pendulum anyway.
I'm currently reading Foucault's Pendulum, but to be honest I find it overly pretentious drivel. I think I'm only about halfway through though, so perhaps it'll get better.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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Along with the other facts on that page, the author is stating quite clearly that everything he is stating as fact, is fact. All the rest is quite obviously intended to be fiction.
How exactly are we supposed to verify whether the representations of secret rituals are accurate or not?
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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How exactly are we supposed to verify whether the representations of secret rituals are accurate or not?
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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How exactly are we supposed to verify whether the representations of secret rituals are accurate or not?
if you did that they wouldn't be 'facts' anymore
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

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I'm currently reading Foucault's Pendulum, but to be honest I find it overly pretentious drivel. I think I'm only about halfway through though, so perhaps it'll get better.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

Even wikipedia debunked the da vinci code!

Decent book though.
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Re: The Real DaVinci Code :rolleyes:

Tom Hanks & Audrey Tatou now apparently. Oh the Joys!
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