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Karmulian · 21 Dec 2003, 14:55

Ok,
simple question, in order to allow for everyman for himself/king of the hill scenario

should we close alliances during havoc

SteInMetz · 21 Dec 2003, 15:08

Oi I dont think its a good idea, your alliance is half your community if not more..
If you close that during havoc we will kinda lose the connection to each other, well we have IRC you people will say, but infact not every people are able to come on IRC, and then they have the oppurtunity to contact the community at the ingame alliance forum..

This has nothing to do with im afraid of beeing bashed and not get def.. I have been bashed and not got def all round, but this is different..

-[ND]SteInMetz

Merlin · 21 Dec 2003, 15:55

Yer right another great way to kill off the community during havoc with no round 11 in sight.
Who comes up with these truly LAME ideas?

Merlin
Since Rnd 2

ArcChas · 21 Dec 2003, 15:56

Considering that defence is impossible without the alliance ETA bonus I'd like to see what suggestion you have to replace it before I vote on whether to close the alliances.

Karmulian · 21 Dec 2003, 16:17

none

the idea behind this havic was everyman for himself

all planets are being set to be identical, thus its an oppurtunity to show who is the best

Hurragutten · 21 Dec 2003, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmulian

none

the idea behind this havic was everyman for himself

all planets are being set to be identical, thus its an oppurtunity to show who is the best

I voted no, but after thinking about it it could be a good idea. Best (wo)man wins

Karmulian · 21 Dec 2003, 16:42

well that was the idea, but 1) we ain't sure it can be done anyway(can but ask) 2) if you want alliances simply vote no..

Naps · 21 Dec 2003, 17:50

Stunning Idea!
It Will ensure that You have no choice but cooperate with your galaxy

This round has been ALOT of back stabbing relying mostly on alliances for defence. This way we get to see whose the best gal and whose the best player regardless of alliance. I like it.

BTW this wont stop anyone getting bashed by alliances, as everyone can still launch on the same tick. all it will do is hinder defence

Merlin · 21 Dec 2003, 18:48

So its really just a great way to bash a few planets flat right off and make havoc a big joke. I'm sure the big guys are planning it out even as we debate this lameness.

SteInMetz · 21 Dec 2003, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin1955

So its really just a great way to bash a few planets flat right off and make havoc a big joke. I'm sure the big guys are planning it out even as we debate this lameness.

exactly what i am afraid of..
This is gonna be shit, if you do it that way, ill not be playing havoc, then i will wish yiu guys luck in havoc..

General1 · 21 Dec 2003, 19:50

Rahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Kal · 22 Dec 2003, 00:00

lets assume that only about 50% max of the players will touch their accounts in havoc, this means that an alliance will be of limite help as will your gal. So i think that alliance and gal will be needed to cover incs.

Blazde · 22 Dec 2003, 06:45

Remove alliance ETA, remove gal ETA, let us all change planet/ruler names, shuffle the entire universe. Then it'll be everyman for himself.

Karmulian · 22 Dec 2003, 14:06

That unfortunatly isn't anywhere near possible

k2ou3 · 22 Dec 2003, 15:35

It’s supposed that Planetarion is a social game, where people are forced to interact whit others to survive…If alliances are banished from havoc, it will corrupt all the ideology of the game in self.

Zh|l · 22 Dec 2003, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmulian

Ok,
simple question, in order to allow for everyman for himself/king of the hill scenario

should we close alliances during havoc

rofl

Who suggested this in the first place?

Karmulian · 23 Dec 2003, 01:41

the poll auto-closed after 24hrs

looks like we will try and disable alliances for havoc

though tbh i don't think it can be done

Shev · 23 Dec 2003, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmulian

the poll auto-closed after 24hrs

looks like we will try and disable alliances for havoc

though tbh i don't think it can be done

I think that's a good thing to be honest. You have to look beyond the overall results at the reasons for people saying yes or no. I'ts clear that this might be a bit of fun for a lot of people, but for smaller alliances it's a huge part of the game. Most major alliances need the eta bonus but use the in-game stuff for nothing else, while the smaller ones rely on it as an integral communication link.

Blazde · 23 Dec 2003, 08:32

My problem with it is that the active, skilled players who want to enjoy havoc but are stuck in dead-end galaxies will just get pounded (more than usual).

The vast majority of top planets this round came from top galaxies, so it'a obvious just how much the calibre of your galaxy affects your own game. But these people can choose a good alliance to back them up, and make up for the galaxy they didn't choose. If you're going to take away their only lifeline and call it 'everyman for himself' you should be taking away the galaxy support from everyone as well. Otherwised you're only making it even more unfair than it usually is.

If you're doing this with access to the sourcecode, it should be a simple matter of commenting out two conditionals instead of just one (forget the shuffle/rename). But when you say 'I don't think it can be done' it makes think you're doing this without source

Darky · 23 Dec 2003, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmulian

the poll auto-closed after 24hrs

looks like we will try and disable alliances for havoc

though tbh i don't think it can be done

roflmao, PA Team clearly r0x0rs

What was the intention of the poll if you know already it´s not doable?

ArcChas · 23 Dec 2003, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmulian

looks like we will try and disable alliances for havoc

Well, I hope everyone enjoys themself.

RealJames · 23 Dec 2003, 12:05

Tbh with random galaxies alliances are the strongest unit a player has these days, removing them from the game could harm the community and may even cost the game players.

I personally won't be more than dabbling in havoc, so I couldn't really care less, but I would hate to think that we'd lose players as a result of an attempt to spice up havoc. Of course the counterattacking and countercounterattacking may prove to be good for alliance community spirit, but I'm skeptical.

AzureWrath · 23 Dec 2003, 17:16

Havoc will suck...who wants my login?

General Martok · 23 Dec 2003, 19:06

close login, ban planet, delete user

Assassin · 25 Dec 2003, 12:32

I dont think many ppl will take it seriously but.. ok

General Martok · 25 Dec 2003, 15:22

BTW when wil we be told what the Havoc 'rules' will be?

Blazde · 25 Dec 2003, 15:49

Typically lots of people take it seriously but pretend they weren't when they get their ass kicked.