Which alliance will have top planet at end of r9

[Kileman]

Originally posted by Sn0w

Least the VtS BC crew did work in the end of the round. All the fury bc's cared bout was retals on allied planets that they said had lost there protection defending one of there alliance mates in another galaxy. When asked to present the valid information so that the retals could be authorised they didnt have any proof so that almost all retals were denied. Why did you think i was sending all those pa mails to the FAnG fellas to recall defense from there buddies(though none never recalled). That way they lost there allied galaxy protection and retal authorisation was granted. None of the Fury BC staff ever did this.

Thats incorrect, I spent most of the last few weeks sending out msgs to the gals telling em not to defend, and sorting out 'who we could and couldnt hit'. Its not wise to make a judgement of what Fury's BC did at the end of R7 when you werent *in* Fury.
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[Sn0w]

Originally posted by Kileman
Thats incorrect, I spent most of the last few weeks sending out msgs to the gals telling em not to defend, and sorting out 'who we could and couldnt hit'. Its not wise to make a judgement of what Fury's BC did at the end of R7 when you werent *in* Fury.

I'll accept that and respect that.

Getting back to the thread though, I'm still expecting a Australian like mundo or myself maybe even Argon god forbid or a New Zealander in yourself Kile even better Bong/JugJug or any other spacedout crew

Originally posted by Kileman
Thats incorrect, I spent most of the last few weeks sending out msgs to the gals telling em not to defend, and sorting out 'who we could and couldnt hit'. Its not wise to make a judgement of what Fury's BC did at the end of R7 when you werent *in* Fury.

all you did the last weeks was worrying about fred outgrowing you (like he cared),and about getting psi hit.

[CamelToe]

Originally posted by Kileman
My planet last round wasnt big Nor did (or have I *ever*) expected those attacking with me to recall to allow me to get all the roids, even in R7 when I hit valy with my gal I recalled to let them get a large chunk of the roids. And hitting top 10 planets solo doesnt really go down well, but I dont really need to tell you that, do I ? I know mundo attacked alone (ie 1 v 1 on attacks) whereas ldk and plush etc were attacking big planets in bunches, recalling to allow servus/hearts/ado respectively to get most of the roids.

All the "special teams" raids which plush launched were engineered so that everyone who participated could stay, and the lot of us still get 15%. None of our raids were for the roids which we would gain... it was more about taking them from the enemy. Besides, if we were gonna do that for anyone, it would have been arcon. But he had class, and put the group ahead of his planet... he never requested that.

[CamelToe]

http://www.nirvana-hq.com/mpt/hvy5699.htm <- a landing on star-erazor

http://www.nirvana-hq.com/mpt/hvybah.htm <- a defended 37.8.7

http://www.nirvana-hq.com/mpt/lite1055.htm <- some other raid with our light team

and perhaps my favorite one...
http://www.nirvana-hq.com/mpt/hvy2982.htm (Darki)

Shazna had a few battle documents as well... but i cant be bothered to find them.

[Prophey]

U forgot to mention how a noob who barely played 2 full rounds organised those attacks

I am da planet killahhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[CamelToe]

:-)

what would we do without you?

[Sn0w]

Most of his Talent stems from him being an Aussie :P

[Hicks]

Originally posted by Sn0w
Can you name one instance in the same magnitude as that assault?

I used a large number of Fury ships to cover Summy's returning fleet when NewX launched their last big attack on my galaxy, he was Top 10 at the time. I never thought twice about it as I saw it as an allied defence, in fact I've never ever thought twice of using or giving allied defence and I certainly wouldn't go bragging about it. What happened to Legion in terms of attitudes and ability after Round 5 was such a shame.

Originally posted by Sn0w
Least the VtS BC crew did work in the end of the round. All the fury bc's cared bout was retals on allied planets that they said had lost there protection defending one of there alliance mates in another galaxy. When asked to present the valid information so that the retals could be authorised they didnt have any proof so that almost all retals were denied.

What exactly did they have to work at ? Presiding over a dormant universe is hardly hard work, the defence calls stopped after about 5 weeks and writing mails is hardly taxing. Would you know even anything about the work of a VtS BC, you were an Illiad underling weren't you ?

I cant imagine why any Fury MO would be preoccupied with getting authorisation for retals simply because they didn't have the authority to seek it, retals were almost always arranged by Germania with the exception of his absence towards the end where myself and Kile helped out.

Originally posted by Sn0w

Why did you think i was sending all those pa mails to the FAnG fellas to recall defense from there buddies(though none never recalled). That way they lost there allied galaxy protection and retal authorisation was granted. None of the Fury BC staff ever did this.

P.S. Cheers to the BC crew at Legion the best Ive ever seen.

So that was your contribution to the Legion "war" machine ? Writing obnoxious little PA mails that even UV laughed at. It's lucky they didn't ask you to do somthing diffucult, like using a battle calculator isn't it ?

The Legion BC crew at the end of Round 7 was the best you've ever seen ? PLD

I have to hand it to Plush, those battle documents are quite impressive. Fury really was lagging behind in terms of Tech by the end

[Sn0w]

Considering the amount of incoming I handled for Iliad during the round and was still handling after i was promoted. As well as for legion when I was promoted. In the last month before havoc I was the only night shift BC that was on everyday apart from Axis. I dont think that I could classify myself as an underling.

Hmm the Real BC work during the last month was making sure the guys didnt get bored. CrAzYsPoOn and I ran 3 gal raids most nights and about 20 retals a night on the bigger planets in allied galaxies that lost there protection defending which was authorised by HC because of those mails that I had sent out.

C2 C8 and C18 NewX that were the most resistant towards the end.

[Prophey]

I love you Sn0w!

[Jester]

Originally posted by Hicks
What happened to Legion in terms of attitudes and ability after Round 5 was such a shame.

Hi Axis

Jester

[Ants]

Originally posted by Sn0w


C2 C8 and there was another C i forget that was still causing problems from NewX thats were the most resistance was coming from anyway.

C18, the BULL stronghold

[Silva baby]

plush is crazy the amount of calc on that battle document is lyke crazy

[KoRnNut]

Scouse:

I never implied Servuz and his team of escorts were an invalid tactic. But it seems you may have grown accustomed to defending this typeof tactic?

Before R8 ended myself and 3 other very decent sized planets were always ganging up on targets. It still was never enough to break through heh.

When R8 crashed, myself and 5 others in my alliance and Focht and 5 others in his alliance were eta 2 on a Virus HC fleethunt. Would have totally obliverated the defenders

Remember when they suggested the possibility of starting R8 where it left off? Man.....what a kock tease heh.

[KoRnNut]

Originally posted by Silva baby
plush is crazy the amount of calc on that battle document is lyke crazy

I don't know if crazy is the right word. And it's always been my policy to use 'tomfoolery' improperly if there is any need at all to use a word improperly. Can you possibly edit your post?

[Rember]

Originally posted by Tesla

My money is on Akallabeth...he ended around 100th last round after getting attacked all day everyday by everyone..

That's because I defended him each day.....

[Benneh]

Originally posted by Rember
That's because I defended him each day.....

Ditto..

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Sn0w
Can you name one instance in the same magnitude as that assault?
Not petty little defenses sent at gal mates/attack groups from fury to legion and legion to fury which is what your most likely refering too.

There have been *many* instances throughout Fury/Legion's alliance where both have helped eachother out. Sid could give a pretty comprehensive list but for now lets just say Fury did its *fair* share of defense. Don't even try a 'Legion helped you win!' arguement because I could so kick that regarding r5 where I used Wrath to help out Legion planets just to get some more instances of defence for recording.

Originally posted by Sn0w

Least the VtS BC crew did work in the end of the round. All the fury bc's cared bout was retals on allied planets that they said had lost there protection defending one of there alliance mates in another galaxy. When asked to present the valid information so that the retals could be authorised they didnt have any proof so that almost all retals were denied. Why did you think i was sending all those pa mails to the FAnG fellas to recall defense from there buddies(though none never recalled). That way they lost there allied galaxy protection and retal authorisation was granted. None of the Fury BC staff ever did this.

Thats amusing considering Fury Military Officers never dealt with retaliations. Retals could be exchanged/given to Officers at dire tiems of need but a MO did not have the authority to process them (at least during my time as a Fury Executive). If you want to fight dirty I'd say Legion was always MUCH MORE concerned about retaliations than Fury ever was. You had a system to record EVERY single little breakage of anything, you made lists specifically to see how close people were to becoming open targets. Fury never went to that extreme for retals - we operated very laissez-faire in retals, normally being cases of repeated offenders or major trangressions. Only Fury Executives authorized retals - Sid did so during r5 and r6 I believe. Germania did so in r7. (I did a few in r5 but I don't recall any during r7 since I left it all for Germania to do - I despised dealing with them, because it made me feel like a vulture).

The Fury Military Command Team did a sterling job during r7 - and were a key factor in winning the war. Just to be in the same tone as you, I found Titan's much easier to contact in relation to military issues than Legion itself (on the rare times I had to - poor Axis was probably overwhelmed with the amount of work he had to do thus only reducing Legions efficiency)

Lastly, you are just wrong in saying Fury did nothing end of round. We did alot, especially the military team. I never had to even touch Wrath Military because Fury/Wrath MO's sorted it out totally. I also remember messaging offenders on occassions myself towards the end of the round and your name sparks as someone I accidently messaged.

So go take your horribly wrong statements elsewhere, perhaps to Legion boards.

Originally posted by Sn0w

P.S. Cheers to the BC crew at Legion the best Ive ever seen.

I would hardly say that for Legion during r7. Titans and FAnG collaborated better in cooperation attacks from what I saw. But I guess it must be the best you've seen since you were only an Iliad Officer (possibly Legion one towards the very end? I don't know you so am going by third party information).

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Kileman
My planet last round wasnt big

It was for a while, but our constant success's on you changed that around, but you did well to keep getting roids and making yourself a decent target over and over again.

I know mundo attacked alone (ie 1 v 1 on attacks)

Yeah, he mostly did. But he used to send 3 fleets out to attack and recall as soon as his target had defence. He did pretty well roiding you though, eh?

whereas ldk and plush etc were attacking big planets in bunches, recalling to allow servus/hearts/ado respectively to get most of the roids.

Hah. Hearts and ado wern't LDK or Plush. They were F.EA.R. And we had 11 people, out of 13, in the top 250 for the entire round. We shared roids equally, although Parra and Reese were picking up lots when the round ended. Hearts and ado were just allowed to land on you that time, because it was their turn.

finishing the round over 100 mil ahead of the next player

You had 'the next player' deleted. Remember?

Originally posted by DarthDaddy
all you did the last weeks was worrying about fred outgrowing you (like he cared),and about getting psi hit.

*giggle*

Originally posted by Hicks
What happened to Legion in terms of attitudes and ability after Round 5 was such a shame.

Ho ho.

Originally posted by Silva baby
plush is crazy the amount of calc on that battle document is lyke crazy

The organisation that went into Plush attacks and their tech side was fantastic. Very impressive.

Originally posted by Zh|l
poor Axis was probably overwhelmed with the amount of work he had to do thus only reducing Legions efficiency

I agree. I always thought it was very difficult to communicate with Legion during round 6, and especially round 7.

[ParraCida]

Didn't ado do most of the scanning and calcing on big attacks?

[Scouse]

Originally posted by ParraCida
Didn't ado do most of the scanning and calcing on big attacks?

No. We shared it. He did loads and loads of defences though, and was probably our best BC for round 8.

(PS. Get on IRC, boyo. You need adding)

[DiabZ]

Originally posted by Kileman
No its not.

I won R7 without using my whole gal to escort me around (like TU was doing). Ive always attacked solo when im "big" and will continue to do so apart from 'special events'.

Our round 7 gal tried to maximise our attacks, so if TU needed ships we lend him it, and vica versa., maybe that's why we owned you guys so badly ?

A shame TU can't be here to defend himself isn't it, but there's no need to since everyone knows he's a better player than you anyway :\

[Akallabeth]

Originally posted by Rember
That's because I defended him each day.....

i can recall at least 1 day where u didn't :P

thx neway, m8 =)

[edit] and all the others that did, too, ofc

[Torz]

Originally posted by DiabZ
Our round 7 gal tried to maximise our attacks, so if TU needed ships we lend him it, and vica versa., maybe that's why we owned you guys so badly ?

the rampant login sharing?

[Shev]

Originally posted by Prophey
U forgot to mention how a noob who barely played 2 full rounds organised those attacks

I am da planet killahhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Yeah Spudz, you do indeed rock

[Sn0w]

Originally posted by Scouse
I agree. I always thought it was very difficult to communicate with Legion during round 6, and especially round 7.

Even though Bong and I was in your gal?

[ParraCida]

Originally posted by Sn0w
Even though Bong and I was in your gal?

ESPECIALLY you.

[Sn0w]

Zhil, I heard it was you who ordered all allied defenders to be retal'd immeadiately without even being sent mails to see if they wanted to recall.

I wasnt trying to suggest that fury and legion sharing defense at a time of need wasnt equal over both sides. I was just wondering if he thought he would have won without the defense. Which kile said he would have, which I agree with since there was noone near his score up there, that wasnt deleted.

'If' you really needed a Legion BC you would have come onto the private server, we were always on trying to have some fun. You shouldn't expect every legion bc to come onto the fury private server into the joint rooms. We did have better things to do.

You could ask some of the members/command from legion r7 what they know of me if you want to hear some more reliable third parties.

[Sn0w]

Originally posted by ParraCida
ESPECIALLY you.

and I thought you loved me coming onto titans private server asking for defense while they were sleeping :P

[Maddix]

Originally posted by CamelToe
http://www.nirvana-hq.com/mpt/hvy5699.htm <- a landing on star-erazor

Something that took you long enough considering his GC was a Plush member

Originally posted by Hicks
The Legion BC crew at the end of Round 7 was the best you've ever seen ? PLD

Me and Axis were the only BCs that really did anything all of R6 or 7 - so for a 2 man BC crew I thought we did ok

Originally posted by Sn0w
'If' you really needed a Legion BC you would have come onto the private server, we were always on trying to have some fun. You shouldn't expect every legion bc to come onto the fury private server into the joint rooms. We did have better things to do.

I was always there whenever {wolfbabe} didn't put a G-Line on me cos she thought I was Empress heh

[Sn0w]

stop stroking ya ego maddix..

[Scouse]

Originally posted by Sn0w
Even though Bong and I was in your gal?

I'm talking about senior Legion officials. You were Iliad for most of round 7, and of course I wasn't in your gal in round 6.

As Maddix has pointed out, only he and Axis were ever available.

Originally posted by Sn0w
'If' you really needed a Legion BC you would have come onto the private server, we were always on trying to have some fun. You shouldn't expect every legion bc to come onto the fury private server into the joint rooms. We did have better things to do.

I'll have to disagree with you there, Sn0w. Everyone else had to be there, what makes Legion so special that we have to go to them? It wasn't your fault though, since you wern't even added.

#monkeybusiness often only contained Titans and Fury. Legion's lazy (crap) command was down to the HC. Not blaming you at all.

Originally posted by Maddix
I was always there whenever {wolfbabe} didn't put a G-Line on me cos she thought I was Empress heh

Surprise surprise, Maddix being mistaken for a female.

[Maddix]

Originally posted by Scouse
Surprise surprise, Maddix being mistaken for a female.

Die Monkey Boy

[Kileman]

Originally posted by DiabZ
Our round 7 gal tried to maximise our attacks, so if TU needed ships we lend him it, and vica versa., maybe that's why we owned you guys so badly ?

A shame TU can't be here to defend himself isn't it, but there's no need to since everyone knows he's a better player than you anyway :\

Your round 7 gal tried to maximise TU's attacks, so if TU needed roids to stay #1, you escorted him

I very very very seldomly recall TU and the rest of the gal recalling to let someone else get roids. TU *always* stayed. Whereas I was always either attacking alone, or completly sharing the roids with those that launched with me.

And TU didnt finish R7 with a planet, so how can you say "he is better player".
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[Kileman]

Originally posted by Scouse
[b]It was for a while, but our constant success's on you changed that around, but you did well to keep getting roids and making yourself a decent target over and over again.


Hah. Hearts and ado wern't LDK or Plush. They were F.EA.R. And we had 11 people, out of 13, in the top 250 for the entire round. We shared roids equally, although Parra and Reese were picking up lots when the round ended. Hearts and ado were just allowed to land on you that time, because it was their turn.



You had 'the next player' deleted. Remember?

I gave up seeking defence ever since I was knocked from top 10 and it was obvious that Fury was losing the war (thats the downside of playing solo against a block ) I just moved ships around elsewhere and prioritised others that actually gave a fk ahead of me. Thats why it was always easy roiding @ my place (the times I didnt redistribute the roids with red def).

I stand corrected regarding hearts/ado's bg :@~ but for quite some time it always seemed to be hearts/ado landing etc, while the terran/cathaar/zik eta 7 podless fleets always recalled and then there eta 8 fleets too.

As for getting the "next player deleted" the next player(s) were cheating remember?

I also didnt care about getting Psi attacked, that was a Zhil affair. I did however care about DTA winning and beating a Fury gal, so did whatever it took to make sure 12:13 (and later 10:8, meh sister gal) would win, after it became obvious that my gal would not.
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[Sn0w]

Originally posted by Scouse
I'm talking about senior Legion officials. You were Iliad for most of round 7, and of course I wasn't in your gal in round 6.

If you had trouble finding them you coulda asked, being Iliad for most of the round didnt mean, I wasnt still in contact with the Seniors.

I'll have to disagree with you there, Sn0w. Everyone else had to be there, what makes Legion so special that we have to go to them? It wasn't your fault though, since you wern't even added.

#monkeybusiness often only contained Titans and Fury. Legion's lazy (crap) command was down to the HC. Not blaming you at all.

You missed my point 'if' it was essential to talk to us. We wouldnt have been hard to find, if they knew where to look.

[Prophey]

Sn0w has sexy legs.

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Sn0w


You missed my point 'if' it was essential to talk to us. We wouldnt have been hard to find, if they knew where to look.

I think you've missed Scouse's point. 'If' it was essential for me to talk to someone from Titans I could contact them in the designated joint command room (which was upon Furynet). Same with ViruS, and mostly every alliance. Legion was one of the most difficult to get hold off. It didnt help that Axis was American and thus wasnt around in general - note the words in general - for when the block wanted to organize/discuss coordinated attacks. It took many a tries to catch Axis in time before he reserved a cluster or two for Legion early morning (before attacks had finished totally for the night before sometimes) to get Legion support.

I can't really comment on the Furynet rules (well I could, but thats not really the issue here)

[CrazySpoon]

Heh, I was added to that channel after 4 weeks asking. And they kept saying we will we will. Its for the new blood like me and sn0w that still wanted things to work that legion still managed anything that round. Together with Axis we did most work BC wise. Politic wise there was lots of **** going on. And noone in Legion seemed to care.

And most of the legion command was easy to find, it was just that people didnt bother anymore so they did **** imo.

[Sn0w]

axis probably disliked the idea of the oppression of having to go onto fury net to annoy yas might have just wanted to do his own thing instead of bothering your certain sexual conversations in #monkeybusiness

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Sn0w
axis probably disliked the idea of the oppression of having to go onto fury net to annoy yas might have just wanted to do his own thing instead of bothering your certain sexual conversations in #monkeybusiness

Silly me, I thought allies were supposed to cooperate - you've just reminded me why I preferred Titans to Legion that round!

FLTTV has a whole decided it was best to use Furynet since it was easiest and the most secure at the time. Legion however decided to sit on its own server rather than attend Furynet because they 'couldnt be bothered' to join Furynet for quite a considerable amount of time.

True, it was Legions right to do what the fk they wanted - but to me it was petty and childish and looked like Legion was sulking because the block had decided to use Furynet rather than Legionnet at the time.

And sexual conversation? There may have been a few such things, but nothing in bad taste (Furynet doesnt allow that - Ive seen worse in Legion channels - not saying thats BAD, just saying Legion was alot less strict than Fury was in regards to the conversations on its server) so thats a totally silly excuse.

There were two channels to my recollection at least - one for HC and one for HC and Officers - both werent heavily used by Legion (Grendel did occassionally come on from time to time - but Grendel has never been a fan of other servers - LO GREN. Not a dig :P)

[K-W]

Snow, im not sure why you think you have any clue what went on in the block. Im sure what you are saying goes well with the second/third hand versions of things you heard from biased sources, but your story meshes pretty poorly with reality. Fury's focus on retals towards the end of the round was fairly easily explained by the fact that the only active hostiles to us were in friendly galaxies. Id love to hear your plan on how to fight a war against protected planets without using retals. Few Fury members could even launch on the non friendly galaxy hostiles.

As far as getting retals, we presented the evidence we had and we worked with allies sharing news scans. It was a very confusing task with all the entertwined galaxies. In the cases where a planet had indeed violated thier protection we were granted retals, and in the cases where there was some confusion, or the planet made a mistake we took appropriate measures. This worked both ways with both sides exchanging. The myth that Fury was somehow more obsessed with retals was due to the fact that we had more retals to get. Only the titans in friendly galaxies were large enough for the avg fury member to attack. The exposed titans, and numourous ldk who also attacked and defended were too small.

We were very leniant with giving the benefit of the doubt to allies, allowing both legion and virus top gals to harbor titans who had violated thier protection.

Our battle commanders were active and capable, we just had no battle to fight due to the newbie protection rules.

[Azuth]

Originally posted by Zh|l
FLTTV has a whole decided it was best to use Furynet since it was easiest and the most secure at the time. Legion however decided to sit on its own server rather than attend Furynet because they 'couldnt be bothered' to join Furynet for quite a considerable amount of time.

Once You guys got You act straight and actually managed to Add those of us who were supposed to be there(something which took QUITE some time I might add), I basically lived in the Channel..

Just because someone is idling doesn't mean they're not there...

And if someone needed some Legion peeps who for some reason weren't there... the Other Legions there would know where to get 'em... So I really don't see the Problem..

[K-W]

Originally posted by Azuth
Once You guys got You act straight and actually managed to Add those of us who were supposed to be there(something which took QUITE some time I might add), I basically lived in the Channel..

Just because someone is idling doesn't mean they're not there...

And if someone needed some Legion peeps who for some reason weren't there... the Other Legions there would know where to get 'em... So I really don't see the Problem..

Unlike every other ally in the block, Legion started off the round with very few people in the shared channels, we asked for a list and got only a few names, axis being the notable one. Contacting Legion was a pain in the but if axis was not on, or idling and had to be done by going on Legion's server much of the time. Towards the end of the round Legion started having more people spot added onto furynet as they decided it was prudent. Its not our fault that they waited until the middle of the round when other thigns were going on to gradually get the people who were "supposed to be there" added through no standard official method.

Actually thats exactly waht idling means.

Alot of the time NO legions were on, especially towards the end of the round when there was a general inactivity in Legion command. If not for Zhil playing non PA games with grendel and maddix being promoted I may have gone for days without being able to contact a command level Legion. And maddix was limited in what he could do.

[Azuth]

Idle is usually reffering to a Person who's at his computer, but doing other stuff instead of chatting... as such if someone PMs him or Highlights him or whatever... he'll notice..

[Sn0w]

Originally posted by K-W
Snow, .....<snip>

I havent heard the biggest load of ***** like that since god knows when. None of my information is biased by 2nd/3rd hand. If its biased in your views, then your biased on my biasm.

[K-W]

Originally posted by Azuth
Idle is usually reffering to a Person who's at his computer, but doing other stuff instead of chatting... as such if someone PMs him or Highlights him or whatever... he'll notice..

Idle can refer to someone who is not active in a channel, but can still be reached. But a person who responds to highlights or pm's is not truely idle. A truely idle person is present on a server and in a channel, but is not actively communicating.

Your definition of idle is fairly useless, as they are still active participants in the channel and on the server.

[Sn0w]

I was also under the impression that Fury had a member score average under that of LDK planets due to Fury's massive inactive memberbase. But seriously im not going to start looking for all your members scores in r7 to prove a point which has no revelence over this thread.

ps. aus/nz for top planet - $20

[K-W]

Originally posted by Sn0w
I havent heard the biggest load of ***** like that since god knows when. None of my information is biased by 2nd/3rd hand. If its biased in your views, then your biased on my biasm.

Are you actually claiming that you were involved in Fury/Legion retal business?

Its either that or you dont know what 2nd hand means.

I dealt with 90% of all Fury to Legion retal requests, and I certainly never asked you for any of them. I dont think I ever even spoke to you. Only legion HC were cleared to give retals, and to the best of my knowledge, you were not Legion HC.

So why dont you let those of us who actually did retals in rd 7 decide what is BS about them and not someone who had nothing to do with them.