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Unread 13 Oct 2004, 22:20   #1
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Pope Not Dead

I wandered into a room with the tv on last week. It was going on about the life and times of christopher reeves, aka poor dead bastard. You know the kind of report, "he was then married to such and such, starred in blank, here's some file footage, later in life he was big in charity work and fighting for stem cell research, etc"

So I didn't have to look long to know, even though they didn't say it, the poor guy was dead.

Fast forward to this morning, when the news was going on about the life and times of Pope JP II. His life during the war, how he reacted, his fight against Communism which overtook his beloved Poland. So of course I assumed he was dead. What with being older than dirt and sicker than bin Laden, he was a file footage montage waiting to happen.

Except that he wasn't dead, apparently he just came out with a book. Possibly titled "Stuff You'll Hear About On The News The Day After I Kick The Bucket"

So I'd like to request that file footage-intensive news stories about the life and times of old sick people have a blinking "Not Dead" in the corner somewhere. It's really not asking much.

Anyway.
Rodney Dangerfield.
Christopher Reeves.
Not the Pope*.

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I'm not sure whether I want the poor bastard to live or die, to be honest.
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The Pope must die.
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Re: Pope Not Dead

The man is the world's most famous geriatric

And he's about as much use as Chritopher Reeve's recently vacated wheelchair
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And he's about as much use as Chritopher Reeve's recently vacated wheelchair
Dude, he's the leader of a worldwide spiritual communion. He's not meant to be of any 'use'.
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heh

how thoughtless of me
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What would, in your opinion, make him 'useful'? If he had superpowers? If he had his own chat show? If he owned his own worldwide fashion empire?
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bring back the Papal States
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I think he should present Songs Of Praise
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bring back the Papal States
Somehow, I don't think that what the world needs at the moment is the political empowering of more religious fanatics.

Although it would be enormous fun. Especially if the Pope had a nuclear arsenal.
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He should host the weakest link

and the loser could be crucified as a heretic
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Presumably the winner would simply recieve an assurance that if they lead a pure and godly existence, they would enter heaven after death, and then would be given their bus fare home.
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Re: Pope Not Dead

i just crushed the papal states but the ****s are still holding rome, i want to conquer rome and put a puppet pope in place, bitches keep excommuting me for massmurdering my fellow christians.

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Re: Pope Not Dead

i like the pope.

he renewed a sense of spirituality in me after i saw him at easter 2 years ago.

i cant explain it tbh and im sceptical of religion as a whole but there was just something about him and what he said.....i cant really explain it tbh.
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i like the pope.

he renewed a sense of spirituality in me after i saw him at easter 2 years ago.

i cant explain it tbh and im sceptical of religion as a whole but there was just something about him and what he said.....i cant really explain it tbh.
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Re: Pope Not Dead

Hey guys, I heard Opus Dei ruled the world. The pope has powers :ninja:
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It must be the holy water (whisky) he drinks.
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An apalling human being representing one of the worst ideological factions currently in place. The Catholics are barely one notch above the Muslims, ffs.
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An apalling human being representing one of the worst ideological factions currently in place. The Catholics are barely one notch above the Muslims, ffs.
On behalf of Catholics everywhere, **** YOU!

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An apalling human being representing one of the worst ideological factions currently in place.
Why? I have no particular love for the Church, but I am not sure that spreading a message of love and forgiveness is a bad ideological faction.
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Although it would be enormous fun. Especially if the Pope had a nuclear arsenal.
How do you know he doesn't? According to St Malachi, there are only going to be another two Popes before the end of the RCC, so His Holiness may be taking an "if we're going down, we're bloody well taking the rest of you with us" kind of attitude.
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Hey guys, I heard Opus Dei ruled the world. The pope has powers :ninja:
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i just crushed the papal states but the ****s are still holding rome, i want to conquer rome and put a puppet pope in place, bitches keep excommuting me for massmurdering my fellow christians.

****heads
after i killed him i formed one big ass army and went arround killing turks, chasing his army down, capturing a land, then he ran and then i followed him into that province, giving it up immediately, in the end i conquered a lot of land, killed a lot of turks, but i dont think i would've lasted, then the campaign ended and i had 'lost' ... so i am going to restart tonight
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Why? I have no particular love for the Church, but I am not sure that spreading a message of love and forgiveness is a bad ideological faction.
Tell that to ten million dead blacks.*

Oh yeah, and the whole anti-abortion thing.

Oh, and the sickening subservience to power that the Church generally promotes. And the sexism.

My mother was an Irish ex-Catholic and was raised in a fairly bitter orphanage where Nuns would randomly beat children, and the most appalling religious dogmas were propogated. As such, her bitterness rubbed off on me a bit.

* = You know what i mean.
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Although it would be enormous fun. Especially if the Pope had a nuclear arsenal.
he could launch it from his hat.

I wish I was at home now so I could photoshop a picture of an ICBM emerging from the pontifical mitre.
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An apalling human being representing one of the worst ideological factions currently in place. The Catholics are barely one notch above the Muslims, ffs.
the muslims don't have a pope though do they? they have a few greand ayatollahs or whatever, but they always seem pretty mean and kickass.
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The aesthetics of Catholicism are wonderful. The ethics of the thing are shit, though.

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The Pope must die.
A box office hit if ever I saw one.
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An apalling human being representing one of the worst ideological factions currently in place. The Catholics are barely one notch above the Muslims, ffs.
Communists are worse.
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Communists are worse.
Some Communists are a lot worse than some Catholics, yes. But I'm not interested in the moral practices of individuals, or even entire groups. I'm talking about the overal ideology.

Even if you ignore the paedo preists and such, I disagree with the basic teachings of Catholicism (not all of it obviously, but almost everyone says something agreeable from time to time).
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A box office hit if ever I saw one.
No, really. He must die. Now.
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Some Communists are a lot worse than some Catholics, yes. But I'm not interested in the moral practices of individuals, or even entire groups. I'm talking about the overal ideology.

Even if you ignore the paedo preists and such, I disagree with the basic teachings of Catholicism (not all of it obviously, but almost everyone says something agreeable from time to time).
Well, I'm a Christian, and I find Catholicism difficult to comprehend, so I guess I can't contest that point too strongly. However, I would probably look at it the other way round.
Fundamentally, Catholics have the right idea; it's just all got a little muddled somewhere along the line.
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