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16 Jul 2006, 22:14
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Male sexuality
I was just watching Big Brother (yes yes whatever, keep reading) and its events posed a serious question.
One of the girls likes to wear...well, not very much. She walks around in g-strings covering her boobs with her arm, she's very open with her body. It doesn't really offend me, in fact she's fairly attractive if a little chavvy.
When she sunbathes, she's usually in this sort of get-up (NWS). Again, it shouldn't have to be a problem. I consider myself pretty open and liberated about these sort of things, I don't care if my female housemates see me in just a pair of boxers or a towel.
But one of the male housemates (yes, back to BB) gently bit this girl on the ass yesterday as a joke. He was only mucking around having a laugh, and to be honest it's a pretty nice arse that deserves the attention. Her reaction shouldn't have suprised me, but did. It was one of complete shock - as if she'd been violated.
In a way, I suppose she had. Bodily integrity and all that. But let's face it, we men are attracted to things like this - our sexuality is very much visually dominated, and an attractive girl essentially bearing her arse to the world is going to get attention. We can't help it - our eyes just get drawn to a bit of boob or a quick flash.
And I'm pretty sure that if a woman groped a man, it'd probably be dismissed as her just asserting her sexuality. But I don't really want to create this type of gender debate, which usually just leads to ranting.
So - thoughts?
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16 Jul 2006, 22:26
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Re: Male sexuality
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16 Jul 2006, 22:28
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Re: Male sexuality
constructive thoughts?
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16 Jul 2006, 22:35
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Re: Male sexuality
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16 Jul 2006, 22:53
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Re: Male sexuality
This particular girl is a skank, and she was pretending to be offended because she doesn't want everyone to think she's a skank. Pretty soon she'll not want everyone to think she's a prude and do something 'outrageous'. And tbh, if you walk around with your bare backside out in a house full of oversexed men who haven't had any for eight weeks, someone's gonna do something.
(She didn't seem to get upset when he slapped her bare arse a few weeks ago.)
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16 Jul 2006, 22:54
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Re: Male sexuality
he should call her fat arse.
btw i assume its illegal to masturbate in that kind of situation
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16 Jul 2006, 22:55
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Re: Male sexuality
Who bit her?
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16 Jul 2006, 22:56
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Re: Male sexuality
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We can't help it - our eyes just get drawn to a bit of boob or a quick flash.
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I'm pretty sure we can help biting people's arses though.
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16 Jul 2006, 23:04
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Re: Male sexuality
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Who bit her?
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Mikey.
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I'm pretty sure we can help biting people's arses though.
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I agree. It's the reaction I'm more interested in.
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16 Jul 2006, 23:19
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Re: Male sexuality
the thing is this comes just a couple of days after the scantily-clothed housemate in question got upset when another (male) housemate jumped on her while he was naked.
Whilst Mikey's actions could be considered to be really stupid at the best of times I can't (well, actually I can) imagine what he was thinking.
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16 Jul 2006, 23:21
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I agree. It's the reaction I'm more interested in.
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In general it'd probably be a marginally better world if people calmed down about such things. I'm sure we've all been groped by someone hideous looking in a night club and it doesn't really matter unless you let it. Conversely it would be a better world if people didn't randomly go round touching people without at least some sort of implied consent.
I don't really like the implication that she's somehow brought this on herself by being provactive though. If I went up to a random shirtless construction worker on a building site and groped his genitals then there's a good chance I'd get a punch in the mouth in return. I suspect most people wouldn't have any sympathy for me either, even if my defence was "OMG his pecks were soooo buff".
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16 Jul 2006, 23:34
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In general it'd probably be a marginally better world if people calmed down about such things. I'm sure we've all been groped by someone hideous looking in a night club and it doesn't really matter unless you let it. Conversely it would be a better world if people didn't randomly go round touching people without at least some sort of implied consent.
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Those are pretty much truisms, although it's helpful to assert them. In another world, she'd have taken it as a joke and got her own back on him later. It's her reaction (and her description of herself as being violated) in response to a friendly joke that I find hard to accept.
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I don't really like the implication that she's somehow brought this on herself by being provactive though.
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Neither do I, according to my UKIP-supporting uncle I'm a hand-wringing liberal at the best of times (not that he understands my vaguely libertarian views though). But I doubt that he wouldn't have been drawn (even though he shouldn't have acted) to that area if it hadn't been for the type of bikini bottoms she was wearing. I'm not condoning...just kinda understanding.
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16 Jul 2006, 23:52
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Re: Male sexuality
I like my tits and arse like the next guy...
Lets be honest who would bite a girls arse?
Just not my cup of tea.
Is there an actual arse biting fetish?
Each to their own if the 2 people are in favour of it.
edit - this sort of get-up (NWS).
Nice arse just cant keep looking at her right leg (looks as if it is dislocated or something)
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17 Jul 2006, 00:00
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At the time I thought he just kissed it, then we had the massive protest from her about biting. I reckon it was little more than a nibble.
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17 Jul 2006, 01:02
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Perhaps he was hungry, as well as horny. In this condition, his mind may have been overcome by hormones and he lost control of his mind, so biting her seemed rational to him, even if he was only mucking around.
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17 Jul 2006, 01:17
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Re: Male sexuality
This is why I don't watch Big Brother. Way too much arse biting!
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17 Jul 2006, 08:19
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I thought she overplayed the reaction. However there is a massive difference between staring at a womans arse and biting it. And even a light smack can be deemed playful whereas biting is a bit more invasive. If it had been me I'd have slapped him. Having said that if it had been me I would probably have terrified everyone in the house away by baring my arse.
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17 Jul 2006, 11:15
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Re: Male sexuality
Sociobiologically speaking such a reaction is hardly surprising.
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17 Jul 2006, 11:45
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I don't understand what this has to do with "Male Sexuality".
Are you saying that if he was homosexual he wouldn't have bitten her arse?
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17 Jul 2006, 11:49
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I don't understand what this has to do with "Male Sexuality".
Are you saying that if he was homosexual he wouldn't have bitten her arse? ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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I'm sure that biting people on the arse is a purely platonic gesture on Jersey but could you please at least attempt to be a bit less provincial?
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17 Jul 2006, 12:18
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I'm sure that biting people on the arse is a purely platonic gesture on Jersey but could you please at least attempt to be a bit less provincial?
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In Jersey it means "Can I please have some milk from your cow", actually!
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17 Jul 2006, 12:21
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In Jersey it means "Can I please have some milk from your cow", actually!
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They have cows on Jersey now? I say, you really do learn something new every day.
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17 Jul 2006, 12:29
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hey i didn't know that much about jersey, i just looked on wiki, they're closer to france than i thought and they want independance
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17 Jul 2006, 12:31
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hey i didn't know that much about jersey, i just looked on wiki, they're closer to france than i thought and they want independance
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They also got conquered by germany and jews were deported from there to prison camps. Not the most illustrious history ever.
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17 Jul 2006, 13:26
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Re: Male sexuality
I ate Tofu yesterday, and it was swell
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17 Jul 2006, 13:29
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I ate Tofu yesterday, and it was swell ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I had some soya on saturday, it was rubbish
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17 Jul 2006, 16:53
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hey i didn't know that much about jersey, i just looked on wiki, they're closer to france than i thought and they want independance
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No we don't
Jersey has its own government and laws for starters, so I don't see how or why they'd want independence. Independence from who? The crown?
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They also got conquered by germany and jews were deported from there to prison camps. Not the most illustrious history ever.
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OCCUPIED by Germany, not CONQUERED
I don't know about the Jew thing. I doubt there were many Jews in the island anyway.
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17 Jul 2006, 17:11
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OCCUPIED by Germany, not CONQUERED :mad:
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Yeah and the difference is when a country gets occupied it means they just ROLLED OVER where as when they get conquered they put up a fight before they were taken over. YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF PUSSIES IN JERSEY!
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17 Jul 2006, 17:21
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I don't know about the Jew thing. I doubt there were many Jews in the island anyway.
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THATS WHAT THEY SAID AT NUREMBERG.
Wiki says they polled 700 people and someone now wants independance or something :shrug:
Is it the type of place where boys first experience farmyard animals then girls?
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17 Jul 2006, 18:00
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What the **** is wrong with her right knee/leg?
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17 Jul 2006, 18:07
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What the **** is wrong with her right knee/leg?
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it's lying at an angle. observe where the knee is.
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17 Jul 2006, 19:32
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Re: Male sexuality
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I don't know about the Jew thing. I doubt there were many Jews in the island anyway.
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there were certainly far fewer after your government colaborated
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17 Jul 2006, 19:54
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Re: Male sexuality
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YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF PUSSIES IN JERSEY!
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they're closer to france than i thought
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17 Jul 2006, 20:02
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I don't know about the Jew thing. I doubt there were many Jews in the island anyway.
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While I'm sure there weren't a huge number a common defence from many Nazi apologists is to claim that there weren't six million Jews in Europe during the Second World War.
Sorry if it looks like I'm insulting you, milo and yahwe have done rather admirably in that regard and I don't feel the need to pile in, just make a sidepoint!
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17 Jul 2006, 20:06
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I don't understand what this has to do with "Male Sexuality".
Are you saying that if he was homosexual he wouldn't have bitten her arse? ![Confused](images/smilies/confused.gif)
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No, although that may well be the case. In fact, the thread title's a bit of a misnomer - I was going to write a thread on Male Sexuality, but it turned into a different thread by the time I'd finished writing the opening post.
My point was that male sexuality is very visual - and this is clearly acknowledged by women's clothing designers (as well as most of the population) who are often intent on showing as much boob, arse and leg as possible. In this case, she was wearing a G-string bikini which, for all its noble intentions of avoiding tan marks ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif) , was obviously going to draw attention. I wasn't trying to say she should cover up - just that it might not be entirely surprising that his joke was focused on that area.
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17 Jul 2006, 21:38
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if he would have, say, licked her ass, i would say "well, dressing all slutty like that and you get what you deserve etc!"
but biting is a different story, esp. if it hurts.
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17 Jul 2006, 22:08
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the logical conclusion of this thread seems to be heading in the direction of 'if women dress like sluts they deserve to get raped.' I for one do not support that argument.
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17 Jul 2006, 22:12
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the logical conclusion of this thread seems to be heading in the direction of 'if women dress like sluts they deserve to get raped.' I for one do not support that argument.
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And neither do I. But rape isn't quite the same as friendly banter.
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17 Jul 2006, 22:12
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A friend of mine told me an interesting story, I don't know if this fits with the topic, but he was at a party and this girl was dressed really slutty almost to the point looking a whore, and so he thought it'd be amusing to offer her 20 bucks for a quickie. Well she got all offended by this. So my question is, if they're going to dress like a whore, shouldn't they somewhat expect to be mistaken for one?
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17 Jul 2006, 23:25
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Ah, but she wasn't dressing like a whore, she was dressing to express and show how proud she is of her sexuality and if we're not comfortable with it then that's our problem! Or some bullshit like that.
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17 Jul 2006, 23:32
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Reminds me of my mate who pulled a burd at a house party using the line - "What do you mean I would wear tights for you."
because she was dressed a bit tarty.
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18 Jul 2006, 18:08
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Essentially a case of woman overreacting to nothing. Women are only precious about their sexuality when it suits them
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