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Unread 16 Sep 2005, 15:29   #251
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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It would come in useful for these predictions if i could, unfortunately i tend to do nearly as shit as you though .

Bellamy should be fit, whether he is fit enough to start or not is another matter. Dickov is injured, Kuqi cant score and Jansen is past his best so i imagine he is in with a good shout.
it would be amazing if sparky made bellamy captain for the day... the captains handshake at the start would be priceless
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

if midge5 doesn't make it before 3pm....

0-1
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(I had been making stand-in predictions the opposite of the competing entry, a plan that was working well until the opponent put a draw).

Suggested new method : I don't bother with a stand-in score at all, and if the other player scores 2+ he gets a win; 1 gets a draw, 0 a defeat.


EDIT I'll update this league on monday night, in one go, results, tables and new fixtures. There's been a bit of a balls-up, basically I didn't predict myself!; I didn't forget... I mistakenly thought I had the monday night game. Obviously there is no stand-in for roadrunner to be scored against, and he was completely wrong too, so I'm not sure how to score that, so I've decided to leave it until monday

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

I'm hoping for an update soon...
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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[Charlton] Obliterate v KoeN        [Chelsea]
a 1-2		   d 0-2	        a 0-3
essien 33        crespo 55	    drogba 33
A					    G
         Obliterate 2 - 1 KoeN
Code:
[Fulham]        Lupin v sniborp    [West Ham]
a 2-1		   d 1-2	        d 1-0
bent 25		 harewood 46	 radzinski 78
					    H
              Lupin 0 - 1 sniborp
Code:
[Portsmouth]   lokken v MrL_JaKiri [Birm'ham]
h 2-1		   d 1-1		d 1-1
o'neil 24	 lua-lua 4	    heskey 60
					   HX
             lokken 0 - 4 MrL_JaKiri
Code:
[Sunderland]    Reidy v LHC       [West Brom]
h 3-1		   h 1-1		a 0-2
arca 19		  breen 7	 horsfield 37
H		
              Reidy 1 - 0 LHC

bottom beats top! :D
Code:
[Aston Villa]     pig v Blasto    [Tottenham]
d 1-0	 	   h 1-1		d 1-2
baros 7		  milner 4	     defoe 20
T
                pig 1 - 0 Blasto
Code:
[Liverpool]      SYMM v Phang       [Man Utd]
a 1-2		   d 0-0		a 0-2
rooney 12	     -,-	     giggs 20

               SYMM 0 - 0 Phang
Code:
[Blackburn]        JC v Kurashima [Newcastle]
d 1-0		   d 0-3	        d 2-1
bellamy 31	shearer 62	      Owen 18
H					    H
                 JC 1 - 1 Kurashima
Code:
[Wigan]       furball v not midge5[Middlsbro]
a 2-2		   a 1-1		h 0-1
roberts 22	 Aiyegbeni 14	    camara 69
HA
            furball 3 - 0 not midge5
Code:
[Man City]        1-X v roadrunner   [Bolton]
did not		   d 0-1		h 2-0
predict		  speed 90	      cole 13

            not 1-X 0 - 0 roadrunner

(I'm scoring this as a 0-3 defeat for me, and a 0-0 draw for roadrunner)
Code:
[Arsenal]     Zharkov v Apothos     [Everton]
h 2-0		   h 2-0	        h 5-0
reyes 23	campbell 11       fabregas 22
HX				           HG
            Zharkov 4 - 2 Apothos
Code:
             P W D L  F  A Pts
LHC          6 4 1 1 15  6 13
furball      6 4 1 1 15  6 13
Obliterate   6 3 3 0  9  4 12
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1-X          6 3 1 2 11 11 10
roadrunner   6 2 4 0  8  4 10
Lupin        6 3 1 2  7  7 10
Phang        6 2 3 1 10  6  9 
JC           6 2 3 1 10 11  9
MrL_Jakiri   6 2 2 2  6  5  8
Blastoderm   6 2 1 3 12 10  7
Zharkov      6 2 1 3 10 12  7
Kurashima    6 1 3 2 10 11  6
sniborp      6 1 3 2  7 11  6
Apothos      6 2 0 4  7 13  6
KoeN         6 1 3 3  6 10  6
lokken       6 2 0 4  5 12  6 
midge5       6 1 3 2  4  7  6
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pig          6 1 2 4  4 10  5
SYMM         6 0 4 2  4  8  4
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

NEW FIXTURES
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24 [Birmingham]     rr_0 v sniborp   [Liverpool] 12:45
24 [Bolton]          1-X v lokken   [Portsmouth] 17:15
24 [Chelsea]  MrL_JaKiri v pig     [Aston Villa] 15:00
24 [Everton]     Apothos v LHC           [Wigan] 15:00
24 [Man Utd]     furball v JC        [Blackburn] 15:00
24 [Newcastle]      Kura v Phang      [Man City] 15:00
24 [West Brom]   Zharkov v KoeN       [Charlton] 15:00
24 [West Ham] Obliterate v Lupin       [Arsenal] 15:00
25 [Middlesbro]   midge5 v Reidy    [Sunderland] 16:00
26 [Tottenham]    Blasto v SYMM         [Fulham] 20:00
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

[Tottenham] Blasto v SYMM [Fulham] 20:00

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Unread 19 Sep 2005, 23:58   #261
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

25 [Middlesbro] midge5 v Reidy [Sunderland] 16:00
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

24 [Birmingham] rr_0 v sniborp [Liverpool] 12:45

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

West Brom - Charlton

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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24 [Birmingham]     rr_0 v sniborp   [Liverpool] 12:45
24 [Bolton]          1-X v lokken   [Portsmouth] 17:15
24 [Chelsea]  MrL_JaKiri v pig     [Aston Villa] 15:00
24 [Everton]     Apothos v LHC           [Wigan] 15:00
24 [Man Utd]     furball v JC        [Blackburn] 15:00
24 [Newcastle]      Kura v Phang      [Man City] 15:00
24 [West Brom]   Zharkov v KoeN       [Charlton] 15:00
24 [West Ham] Obliterate v Lupin       [Arsenal] 15:00
25 [Middlesbro]   midge5 v Reidy    [Sunderland] 16:00
26 [Tottenham]    Blasto v SYMM         [Fulham] 20:00
1-1
h
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

missing furball, jakiri, sniborp

if they don't make it, I'll be using the new scoring system I suggested... they get an auto 0-3 defeat and their opponent loses if they score 0, draws if they score 1, wins if they score 2+. It's a lot simpler than making stand-in predictions.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

Code:
[Birmingham]     rr_0 v sniborp   [Liverpool]
a 0-1		   d 2-2	      did not
crouch 40	 garcia 68	      predict

  0-1 defeat for rr_0, 0-3 defeat for sniborp
Code:
[Bolton]          1-X v lokken   [Portsmouth]
h 1-0		   h 1-0		d 1-0
diouf 27	  nolan 25	    davies 34
HXT					    X
                1-X 5 - 3 lokken
Code:
[Chelsea]  MrL_JaKiri v pig     [Aston Villa]
did not		   d 2-1		d 1-2
predict		  moore 44	     baros 27
				            H
   0-3 defeat for MrL, 1-1 draw for pig
Code:
[Everton]     Apothos v LHC           [Wigan]
a 1-3		   d 0-1	        h 1-0
bent 12		francis 47	    cahill 35
G
            Apothos 1 - 0 LHC
Code:
[Man Utd]     furball v JC        [Blackburn]
did not		   a 1-2		d 1-1
predict		pedersen 33	   bellamy 34
					    T
 0-3 defeat for furball, 1-1 draw for JC
Code:
[Newcastle]      Kura v Phang      [Man City]
h 2-0		   h 1-0		h 1-1
shearer 17	  owen 18	      owen 20
HGT				          HST
          Kurashima 3 - 3 Phang
Code:
[West Brom]   Zharkov v KoeN       [Charlton]
d 1-2		   a 1-2		a 0-2
murphy 25	  murphy 9	    murphy 30
XS					  HAS
            Zharkov 4 - 4 KoeN
Code:
[West Ham] Obliterate v Lupin       [Arsenal]
a 0-2		   d 0-0		d 1-2
reyes 23	     -,-	sheringham 14
					    H
         Obliterate 0 - 1 Lupin
Code:
             P W D L  F  A Pts
1-X          7 4 1 2 16 14 13
LHC          7 4 1 2 15  7 13
furball      7 4 1 2 15  9 13
-----------------------------
Lupin        7 4 1 2  8  7 13
Obliterate   7 3 3 1  9  5 12
Phang        7 2 4 1 13  9 10
JC           7 2 4 1 11 12 10
roadrunner   7 2 4 1  8  5 10
Apothos      7 3 0 4  8 13  9
Zharkov      7 2 2 3 14 16  8
MrL_Jakiri   7 2 2 3  6  8  8
Kurashima    7 1 4 2 13 14  7
Blastoderm   6 2 1 3 12 10  7
KoeN         7 1 4 3 10 14  7
lokken       7 2 0 5  8 17  6 
sniborp      7 1 3 3  7 14  6
pig          7 1 3 4  5 11  6
-----------------------------
midge5       6 1 3 2  4  7  6
SYMM         6 0 4 2  4  8  4
reidy        6 1 0 5  1 12  3

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

shouldn't i be on ten points?
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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shouldn't i be on ten points?
you passed the observation test

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Boo hoo.
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shouldnt be LHC on top

why get JC and pig a draw and rr a defeat?
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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shouldnt be LHC on top

why get JC and pig a draw and rr a defeat?
When people are on equal points, I don't order them by "goal difference", but by "goals for" instead because these are the points a player has earned by correct predictions (while he has no control over the "goals against".)

The draw/defeat thing... a new way of scoring people whose opponent doesn't predict. It should be more straightforward than me making up a stand-in prediction (score 2+ to win, 1 to draw, 0 to lose)

It seems harsh... maybe it's better if a player can't lose in these circumstances, and only needs to score a single point to win (with a draw for 0)?

This would give upgrade to wins for pig and JC, and a draw to rr_0.
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It seems harsh... maybe it's better if a player can't lose in these circumstances, and only needs to score a single point to win (with a draw for 0)?
yes, i think it is much fairer.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

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yes, i think it is much fairer.
it isn't really because it introduces random byes.

1 point for a draw, 2 points for a win.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

i am not sure what you mean, but if i can win 1-0 against an opposite predictor while i cant win against a none predictor than i think something is wrong.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

late update...

Code:
[Middlesbro]   midge5 v Reidy    [Sunderland]
h 3-0		   a 0-2		d 1-2
JFH 17		 miller 02	 whitehead 51
					    A
             midge5 0 - 2 Reidy
Code:
[Tottenham]    Blasto v SYMM         [Fulham]
h 2-0		   h 1-0		d 2-1
defoe 15 	  defoe 08	     defoe 50
HGS					   AS
         Blastoderm 3 - 3 SYMM
Code:
             P W D L  F  A Pts
1-X          7 4 1 2 16 14 13
LHC          7 4 1 2 15  7 13
furball      7 4 1 2 15  9 13
-----------------------------
Lupin        7 4 1 2  8  7 13
Obliterate   7 3 3 1  9  5 12
Phang        7 2 4 1 13  9 10
JC           7 2 4 1 11 12 10
roadrunner   7 2 4 1  8  5 10
Apothos      7 3 0 4  8 13  9
Blastoderm   7 2 2 3 15 13  8
Zharkov      7 2 2 3 14 16  8
MrL_Jakiri   7 2 2 3  6  8  8
Kurashima    7 1 4 2 13 14  7
KoeN         7 1 4 3 10 14  7
lokken       7 2 0 5  8 17  6 
sniborp      7 1 3 3  7 14  6
pig          7 1 3 4  5 11  6
-----------------------------
midge5       7 1 3 3  4  9  6
Reidy        7 2 0 5  3 12  6
SYMM         7 0 5 2  7 11  5

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

NEW FIXTURES
Code:
  
01 [Blackburn]        JC v Phang     [West Brom]
01 [Charlton]      Lupin v Blasto    [Tottenham]
01 [Fulham]          LHC v roadrunner  [Man Utd]
01 [Portsmouth]   lokken v Kura      [Newcastle]
01 [Sunderland]    Reidy v SYMM       [West Ham] 17:15
02 [Man City] MrL_JaKiri v Apothos     [Everton] 11:15
02 [Wigan]       Zharkov v sniborp      [Bolton] 13:00
02 [Arsenal]  Obliterate v furball  [Birmingham] 13:30
02 [Aston Villa]     pig v midge5   [Middlesbro] 14:00
02 [Liverpool]      koeN v 1-X         [Chelsea] 16:00

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01 [Fulham] LHC v roadrunner [Man Utd]


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Re: [football] the big league rnd 4

FIXTURES 15-17 OCT
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15 [Chelsea]       Phang v furball      [Bolton] 15:00
15 [Liverpool]       LHC v JC        [Blackburn] 15:00
15 [Middlesbro]   midge5 v lokken   [Portsmouth] 17:15
15 [Sunderland]    Reidy v 1-X         [Man Utd] 15:00
15 [Tottenham]    Blasto v Apothos     [Everton] 15:00
15 [West Brom]     Lupin v KoeN        [Arsenal] 15:00
15 [Wigan]          SYMM v Kurashima [Newcastle] 12:45
16 [Birmingham]  sniborp v pig     [Aston Villa] 12:00
16 [Man City] Obliterate v roadrunner [West Ham] 16:00
17 [Charlton]    Zharkov v MrL_JaKiri   [Fulham] 20:00

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[Charlton] Lupin v Blasto [Tottenham]

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