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Unread 3 Dec 2012, 16:09   #101
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

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However it's a function of the game so its legal, and people shouldn't be closed for it, do MH not have access to ingame nicks? surely they can tell who's real n who's a cousin?
Lots of things are functions of the game, or are possible in the game, but they're still illegal. It would be better if all illegal actions were actually impossible, but that's a bit of a pipe dream.
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Unread 3 Dec 2012, 16:33   #102
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May i also add, that a new tactic arises from this knee jerk reaction from MH and PATeam.

Sending 1 ship of inc every 7-8 ticks on a planet so that they can't reinit roids lost effectively stagnating them for the rest of the round.
Xans can now pod fleet a planet constantly knowing they can't init roids.
It's even easier than that. You can PL a fleet +12 and the dude can't init. Log on twice a day and keep a planet from ever initiating at all. I might make a planet next round just to PL +12 twice a day on 3 planets after they got roided down to 150 to keep them from initiating.

HOPEFULLY this is just a quick fix, and a better fix will be made in the time for next round.

On the flip side, I guess it's useful in the first week where getting a jgp of yourself can be difficult, init a roid before bed to see if you got pl's!
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Unread 3 Dec 2012, 16:47   #103
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

you can go into vacation mode with pls on you, so think pl wont be enough atleast.
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Unread 3 Dec 2012, 17:38   #104
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Prelaunch does work, it's been tested. As Golan said, hopefully not next round.
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You have not fought Ultores, you were just joining gangbangs on them, with not that much success i must add.

Also, you called me a cheater several times, without having a single proof of that being truth.

On the other hand, I don't need proof of you and your alliance being shit, that is something that 95% of people playing this game can confirm, including many of your members.


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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Well there you have it, 3 2 3 launched on by ony to try and land for number one. So 3 2 3 sold his ships.

I said it would happen. More wonderful gameplay from the cuzins. More stuff the MH wont fix.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

oh but I guess I should care cause 3 2 3 ruined his own round, not ony's right?
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

I'm confused, what exactly is the problem here? 3:2:3 sold his ships? So?

[edit] Ah. Ony is attacking him and now he won't get XP. I'm amused you're still under the illusion that there's more than one planet in the running for #1. For the record, Desastre selling his ships allows two waves to land on my gal that otherwise wouldn't. Plus of course all of the waves on him. Including Ony himself, who we would otherwise have defended against. Also, he's is not a cousin. If there's anything else you want to be wrong about, this is your chance!
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

ony ranked number 2 in the uni was going to land on APP 3 2 3 and get enough score to become number 1 ... so he sold all of his ships so ony wont cap or gain score.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Jin still has a lot of prod and would probably still win, either way the point is this is fking cheating ... if I launched my fleets to crash at number 2 and boost him UP it would be fixed ... but if you do something to hurt number 2 so number 3 can move up, it is ok and wont be fixed. Pure BS.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Of course it is. It's not the effects of actions that are banned, it's the actions themselves. I can't donate my ships to the #2, even though it helps them just like defending them would, or escorting them.

I can't allow the #2 to farm me for XP or ships or roids, but I can attack them, or defend against them. And, indeed, I can sell my ships and make the #2's land unprofitable. Nowhere it the rules does it say that I can't. It's simply not cheating. Hurting my opponent, in any way that I can, as long as it's not explicitly declared illegal, is a-ok.



Now, whether or not ship is something we want to keep in the game is another matter all together, which has nothing to do with whether it's cheating now. My personal impression is that ship selling is barely used constructively at all. I've used it a couple of time in the early round to get rid of some Beetles that I didn't want any more, but not since about tick 300. If my impression is correct, and it's really only used to troll people, then I wouldn't be against removing ship selling from the game.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Seems like that be a step in the right direction again, remove the sell ships option. As it's clearly used to troll. (Atleast it has been several times this round) Can't say i've heard anyone use it effectively to help cover their incs, by changing one or more ships to another. And most people wouldn't get a decent enough ammount out of prod in time either. (Unless it's freehit based on stats.)

So removing the sell ships option has CLEAR YES from me.
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Makes one wonder what it was implented in the first place.
Also should raise a question on the "sell structures" to get new structure points idea i think i noticed someplace in these forums.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

there also was no rule that you couldnt init while under attack ... tehy changed this mid round but didnt address this cluster ****.
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ony ranked number 2 in the uni was going to land on APP 3 2 3 and get enough score to become number 1 ... so he sold all of his ships so ony wont cap or gain score.
and instead of selling he could have just attacked someone and crashed and still lost the same amount of value to screw up ony's cap and scoregain... would that be 'cheating' too?
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and instead of selling he could have just attacked someone and crashed and still lost the same amount of value to screw up ony's cap and scoregain... would that be 'cheating' too?
You actually need to crash before your incs land then. So a highly unlikely scenario you are trying to describe.
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You actually need to crash before your incs land then. So a highly unlikely scenario you are trying to describe.
I've done it once before, granted i allready had my fleet out at that time on an attack that i knew was a crash land, just hadn't recalled to screw someone out of top 3.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

And what about the ND who salvaged their ships so they could self-exile from the top gal last round?
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

That was their choise, clearly they didnt want the win, or they didnt want the others in that galaxy to win.
And removing sell ship option would prevent things like that, if anyone has intention of exiling, they would need to have the cost for exile in stock instead.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

and it was Desastres choice to not have fleet at the end of the round, and he didn't want ony to win.
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Desastre is a martyr
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Yes, he would never have done this in a normal round. He sold his ships to fight for his views and ideas. He is underlining a problem in PA.
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Well there you have it, 3 2 3 launched on by ony to try and land for number one. So 3 2 3 sold his ships.

I said it would happen. More wonderful gameplay from the cuzins. More stuff the MH wont fix.
No-one was complaining last round when ND planets sold their ships to exile out of the #1 gal (a gal which Des was in btw), but all of a sudden now it's unfair that other people do the same? ROFLMAO
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

make the returns 100% instead of 75% then you'll have not have this problem
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Nah, resources still give you less value than ships do. You need a return of 150% to balance it out.
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Nah, resources still give you less value than ships do. You need a return of 150% to balance it out.
i like this idea.
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Sounds to me like we've got a fool proof feature here. Appoco, could you get on it, please?
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Gotta love how meaningless ranks are this round
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Re: Multihunter idiocy part 91503

Do not blame MH only, as long as all those people are accepted within this community its up to us to do something against this cheating...abusing....whatever one may call this....
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