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Unread 14 May 2018, 13:02   #51
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Re: Top planet rankings

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I was Ult when Zwan was there. He was demoted to recruit and after that he left. A few hours later Ult HC presumably reported him and he was closed. He then joined Apprime with Spiderpig <3
Pretty sure that was the round after, but fair enough!

He was reported and kicked though
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Pretty sure that was the round after, but fair enough!

He was reported and kicked though
He wasn't kicked

He was set as recruit and then he left... Simple as that.
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He wasn't kicked

He was set as recruit and then he left... Simple as that.
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Re: Top planet rankings

lets just change it from

"Guilty until proven innocent ey bitch3r "

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"Innocent until leaving Ultores/(insert tag-name)"
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Unread 14 May 2018, 19:49   #55
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Re: Top planet rankings

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lets just change it from

"Guilty until proven innocent ey bitch3r "

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"Innocent until leaving Ultores/(insert tag-name)"
If that's what you want, sure!
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Can you say its a donation from a friend? Do you have proof? This is how MHing works in the real round. That's how it should work here too. Innocent till proven guilty.
Nope, it's just a coincedence that a planet that was in VGN during the round chooses to crash their fleet on another planet that was in VGN during the round.

Classic ship donation in havoc.

Even if you're unable to proof that it was a donation: it's suspicious enough to warrant the battle to be reverted (i.e. stolen ships + salvage removed, steal ships given back)
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So then, really no point in playing Havoc unless you have friends that are going to give you ships is what we are saying then.
Correct. It's been like that for years...

(And it usually is ships and salvage.. or when they lack steal ships it's just salvage)
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Re: Top planet rankings

He was demoted after we were getting roided heavy and instead of helping the alliance he insisted on attacking off raid obvious farm and likely multi planets. He was warned to stop doing it and to stop cheating, he did it again the next day and he was demoted. He emo'd quit instantly and was reported. I haven't played forever but to my knowledge that was the first round Zwan was closed, after Ult HC reported him.

I'm not sure how Ult getting heavily roided is relevant to this topic.
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He was demoted after we were getting roided heavy and instead of helping the alliance he insisted on attacking off raid obvious farm and likely multi planets. He was warned to stop doing it and to stop cheating, he did it again the next day and he was demoted. He emo'd quit instantly and was reported. I haven't played forever but to my knowledge that was the first round Zwan was closed, after Ult HC reported him.

I'm not sure how Ult getting heavily roided is relevant to this topic.
Didnt you just point out details thats relevant to the discussion?
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Didnt you just point out details thats relevant to the discussion?
I just detailed it as much as possible since you brought it up. I don't think Ult getting roided or not is relevant.
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I just detailed it as much as possible since you brought it up. I don't think Ult getting roided or not is relevant.
And thank you for detailing it.
Atleast now ww atleast know not to listen to eksero as he either has selective memory, or would claim anything to try make it look like Ultores takes some moral high ground.


Obviously i was kinda implying he got reported by Ult because of a disagreement due to not following fleet/ground/whatever order and then leaving (not reported, then kicked as eksero claimed). Wich you just confirmed.


If someone is cheating, you report it. Its not a reversible action, once it has happend you should be reported/closed.
"If you stop now, its okey for us, we wont get you rightfully closed"

"Innocent untill leaving Ultores" seems to be to be the case this time, if they had infacted reported it instantly once they noticed it, they could avoid being "beaten with a stick"
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And thank you for detailing it.
Atleast now ww atleast know not to listen to eksero as he either has selective memory, or would claim anything to try make it look like Ultores takes some moral high ground.


Obviously i was kinda implying he got reported by Ult because of a disagreement due to not following fleet/ground/whatever order and then leaving (not reported, then kicked as eksero claimed). Wich you just confirmed.


If someone is cheating, you report it. Its not a reversible action, once it has happend you should be reported/closed.
"If you stop now, its okey for us, we wont get you rightfully closed"

"Innocent untill leaving Ultores" seems to be to be the case this time, if they had infacted reported it instantly once they noticed it, they could avoid being "beaten with a stick"

He was told to stop cheating, he didn't, got demoted as punishment(and was on the verge of getting kicked) so he left and reported by the HC. I was only a member back in Ult back then and not hc yet so obviously there's details I probably don't know. But I'd say that's a pretty normal way to deal with things.

Him not following order is what made the farming obvious, as he was the only idiot out there doing his own thing. It provided proofs hc wouldn't have otherwise noticed most likely. At no point cheating was fine.

You talk like it was dragged. Everything was pretty much over in an hour.
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Re: Top planet rankings

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Atleast now ww atleast know not to listen to eksero as he either has selective memory, or would claim anything to try make it look like Ultores takes some moral high ground.

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I was only a member back in Ult back then and not hc yet so obviously there's details I probably don't know.



I'm not saying we're saints butcher, just what happened. If you don't believe me that's fine, it's not something i'll lose any sleep over.

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I'm not saying we're saints butcher, just what happened. If you don't believe me that's fine, it's not something i'll lose any sleep over.
Your just saying everyone else, including Ult members, is wrong, and your right. Thats fine.
You dont even remember CBA being in ult that round, so we could say you got bad memory instead?
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He was told to stop cheating, he didn't, got demoted as punishment(and was on the verge of getting kicked) so he left and reported by the HC. I was only a member back in Ult back then and not hc yet so obviously there's details I probably don't know. But I'd say that's a pretty normal way to deal with things.

Him not following order is what made the farming obvious, as he was the only idiot out there doing his own thing. It provided proofs hc wouldn't have otherwise noticed most likely. At no point cheating was fine.

You talk like it was dragged. Everything was pretty much over in an hour.
Yes, could be pretty normal, idk. Most tags caught cheating will deny it, hide and protect their cheating members from the MHs or from the community knowing. I dont think there is a rule of hiding criminals in PA.
Sometimes you should be able to push someone infront of the bus and not feel bad over it though, and if Zwans got closed the round before that mightve been that time to give him up instead of continueing to give him more second chances.

It dragged on for 10-14 weeks, after his closure the round before.
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Re: Top planet rankings

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Your just saying everyone else, including Ult members, is wrong, and your right. Thats fine.
You dont even remember CBA being in ult that round, so we could say you got bad memory instead?
I'm saying there was 6 people in the channel who knows what actually went down. You can take my word for it or don't, that's up to you!

You are right though, I should be able to remember the exact round(s) anyone has ever played in ult

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You are right though, I should be able to remember the exact round(s) anyone has ever played in ult
Its not just anyone, its CBA, he is kinda hard to miss if he is in your close vicinity
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Nope, it's just a coincedence that a planet that was in VGN during the round chooses to crash their fleet on another planet that was in VGN during the round.

Classic ship donation in havoc.

Even if you're unable to proof that it was a donation: it's suspicious enough to warrant the battle to be reverted (i.e. stolen ships + salvage removed, steal ships given back)

Always ask who benefits or cui bono the only reason why players attempt this cheating because MH are too soft.
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Yes, could be pretty normal, idk. Most tags caught cheating will deny it, hide and protect their cheating members from the MHs or from the community knowing. I dont think there is a rule of hiding criminals in PA.
Sometimes you should be able to push someone infront of the bus and not feel bad over it though, and if Zwans got closed the round before that mightve been that time to give him up instead of continueing to give him more second chances.

It dragged on for 10-14 weeks, after his closure the round before.
The round before was r72, when Ult HC were all inactive except for Zwan and he did not get closed as he won gal.

Apparently, eksero is not the only one with selective memory judging by your standard.

http://beta.planetarion.com/history/...?id=2&round=72


1 THE UNTOUCHABLES 7:7

35 Zwanstic Mofo Ultores 7:7:4

Should stop embarassing yourself, given the players who have played in Rainbows before and clearly cheated while they weren't dealt with. I didn't see you whine back then.
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Selective != bad memory
Okey, he was closed 2 rounds before he was closed again. Either way he was closed twice.
So he mustve had a cheat free round in the middle where he won gal

Thank you for clearing that out though. It all makes more sense now.


And i did whine back then, i went to the admins and reported the bug in question instantly, once i was told about it, and told the whole community about it here on the forums.
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Okey, he was closed 2 rounds before he was closed again. Either way he was closed twice.
So he mustve had a cheat free round in the middle where he won gal

Thank you for clearing that out though. It all makes more sense now.


And i did whine back then, i went to the admins and reported the bug in question instantly, once i was told about it, and told the whole community about it here on the forums.

What was the bug? You have been accussing him of signing up an extra planet... That's not a bug?..
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Re: Top planet rankings

maybe ult does cheat maybe it doesnt maybe fos cheats maybe he doesnt end of day as butcher said until MH do there job why does it matter complaining as nothing is gunna change i dont condone cheating and if we find anyone cheating we immediately kick them and report it like we did over the chronox hobster incident some people agree to it others dont some people have honour some dont.
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Re: Top planet rankings

Cheating in a game like this is really sad.. Multihunters should close the 'main' planet who is cheating and not the ****ing multi's as it is useless .

However I still don't get it why Eksero is trying to protect Zwanstic in this matter tho
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Cheating in a game like this is really sad.. Multihunters should close the 'main' planet who is cheating and not the ****ing multi's as it is useless .

However I still don't get it why Eksero is trying to protect Zwanstic in this matter tho
I'm not pal, I just said what happened, whether butcher or whoever else believes it is up to them
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