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30 Nov 2008, 04:49
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Apprime Troll HC
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
I predict failure on many different levels
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30 Nov 2008, 15:01
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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VGN + ND on 3:2, ROCK + DEN on 1:10 and some ND on a few big asc planets around the uni. You can argue this isn't ptargeting, but when it comes to attacking heavy asc gals like these, it works the same way (and is more effective than only attacking the asc planets imo so nothing wrong with that).
I'm not sure how many times we've hit denial since I didn't play from the start, but I'd venture a guess at 4-5 ptarget times. If ND have hit denial more than that cudos, I still think it's fair to say asc has been heavily involved in the fight.
If ND didn't hit us last round before pt 600 you are idiots, we were massively dominating and the whole united fleets thing had flizzled out at around pt 800, that's only 200 ticks you claim to have hit us and frankly that's a poor effort on your part. I know how much inc we had in ally, I know how much inc my own gal had, I don't really see how I can get that wrong..
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First, there are 3 asc in 3:2. If that is ptargetting, get real man.
We did also hit another gal with asc in it. Booohooo, we hit your gals with planets in, we are totally p-targetting Asc. As i said, get real, you don't got a clue.
Asc have been heavy involved in the fight, i have said nothing else. But as i said, one of the reason asc got fat, is that they were never consistant on denial (which were low on roids). But i never said that was wrong.
And about last round: http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=196936 - Says PT610, i think we can put that one dead. Even tho you "know" otherwise.
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30 Nov 2008, 15:10
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
I dont see Y U are busily denying U hit Asc even if true; surely at this point once Asc wins by a mile again, U want to look back and say "well we tried" even if we did not!
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30 Nov 2008, 15:13
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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First, there are 3 asc in 3:2.
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It has 5 in there, no matter how terrible your intel is, it doesn't change the actual number there, as I pointed out to damo8
Yep that was when you joined the fight against us (you had accepted a 48 hour avoidance before then which I laughed about, and which gave us enough time to break CT + friends back). However before you joined in we had 4 alliances targeting us. If you want to attempt to paint a picture that Asc didn't get touched last round that's up to you, again though it doesn't make it right.
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30 Nov 2008, 15:40
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by SteInMetz
First, there are 3 asc in 3:2. If that is ptargetting, get real man.
We did also hit another gal with asc in it. Booohooo, we hit your gals with planets in, we are totally p-targetting Asc. As i said, get real, you don't got a clue.
Asc have been heavy involved in the fight, i have said nothing else. But as i said, one of the reason asc got fat, is that they were never consistant on denial (which were low on roids). But i never said that was wrong.
And about last round: http://pirate.planetarion.com/showthread.php?t=196936 - Says PT610, i think we can put that one dead. Even tho you "know" otherwise.
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Yeah I know which other gal you hit, like I said in my post (if you had actually read it, things would be easier for you to understand) this is a better tactic than pure ptargets when it comes to trying to roid asc. Why deny you are targeting heavy asc gals on purpose? The same is happening with yet another shared hit on 5:2 by ND and VGN today. Or maybe we only have 2 planets in there according to your intel?
Consistant? I'd say 5 times in 10 nights is pretty consistant, its over double as much as denial have hit asc f.ex. Like I said before, kodus if you have hit them more but its not like we forced you to do it? Sound like you are bitter about that, not sure why.
As for last round, Game already explained it.
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Planets.
Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
Those damn emp races..
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30 Nov 2008, 19:03
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
Wondering, from a somewhat bystanding position last round, could I enquire as to the 4 allies that were targetting asc pre-tick 600 last round? I know i didnt pay much attention.. but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss that much. I know carebears (lol) and ND didnt hit asc and asc were napped with tgv/rock (right?), so...
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30 Nov 2008, 19:07
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
the NAP with TGV was a cleverly constructed myth, even TGV believed it and bent over backwards to avoid hitting asc gals when there was no need.
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30 Nov 2008, 19:21
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by VenoX
Wondering, from a somewhat bystanding position last round, could I enquire as to the 4 allies that were targetting asc pre-tick 600 last round? I know i didnt pay much attention.. but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss that much. I know carebears (lol) and ND didnt hit asc and asc were napped with tgv/rock (right?), so...
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Game asked me this just now. To be honest I only remember four. Golan is right though, our incs were fairly heavy pre tick 600. We had quite a few incs for the first 5 weeks I'd say. Last 10 days or so people just didn't bother trying anymore. Strategically last round was really poor targetting though. I know it was hard to hit the tough xan gals like mine and smasher's but nobody ever really tried. Instead you just got that gal whose co-ords I don't remember with the 2 asc etds getting mass incs pretty much every night. Ascendancy weren't napped with rock/tgv, we co-ordinated some targetting at the start though, almost more avoid double-bookings than anything else.
As regards TGV, and I hope kargool doesn't mind me saying this, but when we started getting hit by vgn/nd/ct/vsn we offered (or it came up I don't remember how exactly this went) NAPs to both rock and tgv. Rock took it and we kept that one until the end of the round. TGV didn't.
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30 Nov 2008, 19:34
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
I'm quite enjoying these little of webs of intrigue that ascendancy clearly must be up to. All we do is play with a bit of flexibility. Agreements are by and large temporary although I'm sure there are exceptions (I have no input on political strategy because I'm not active enough to keep track). If people have a more fixed view of how they conduct their politics, it's up to them. I'd say it's pretty likely that we'd have agreements with close to everyone over the course of the round.
All this stuff about whether people were hitting Ascendancy before tick 600 last round is nonsense and a silly debate. What won us last round is people bizarrely choosing to team on ND early on when we were fat, which let us close out the round with a sterling performance. I was shocked that strategy from our opponents would be so poor. There has been no such respite this round, which is why planetarion is a whole lot closer, to little surprise.
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30 Nov 2008, 19:36
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
the NAP with TGV was a cleverly constructed myth, even TGV believed it and bent over backwards to avoid hitting asc gals when there was no need.
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TGV actually said no to it, not the other way round. TGV avoided our gals so that we would avoid their top planets, that changed however when they attempted to target one of the heavier Asc gals, at which point we vowed to remove their larger planets (this happened a week or so later, we were still busy with CT/ND at that point).
Going back to this round though, VenoX has just shared their top defence calls this round. They are actually smaller than I expected, I'm not entirely sure what he's making all the fuss about.
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30 Nov 2008, 20:15
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
I dont get what this rounds incs has to do with last rounds incs when ur claiming u got heavy incs pre tick 600 from 4 allies.. which was what I'm disputing, i dont remember what else i've made a fuss about besides peoples obvious mistake in targetting Denial longer than they needed to.
It was nice tho, that you admitted to me you lied about Denial not hitting you (we've given you 50% more incoming than your 2nd most), and you were just painting a picture on the forums that we werent hitting you so no one else would join us. Back to my point about manipulation which you call "saying it better". lol.
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30 Nov 2008, 20:27
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
There seems to be about three or four different arguments going on in this thread at the same time and it's weird and deeply confusing
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30 Nov 2008, 20:47
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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I dont get what this rounds incs has to do with last rounds incs when ur claiming u got heavy incs pre tick 600 from 4 allies.. which was what I'm disputing, i dont remember what else i've made a fuss about besides peoples obvious mistake in targetting Denial longer than they needed to.
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I'd imagine it was a lot more to do with the topic of the thread, given that it is titled 'Round 29'. When I say 'fuss' I mean the way in which you made out that you were getting incoming coming out of your ears and everyone was targeting the wrong alliance. What you have had, is around 20% more incoming than we have had, an alliance that you say haven't been targeted at all.
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It was nice tho, that you admitted to me you lied about Denial not hitting you (we've given you 50% more incoming than your 2nd most), and you were just painting a picture on the forums that we werent hitting you so no one else would join us. Back to my point about manipulation which you call "saying it better". lol.
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All I'll say is VenoX, you don't exactly lend yourselves to being 'liked'. Ascendancy used to be hated in the same way you lot are now, however a lot has changed, and I'd imagine it's in part due to the fact we don't moan on these forums about incoming, we get on with it in game, a lesson to be learnt?
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30 Nov 2008, 20:52
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
If you dont moan whats all this crap about last round you being heavily targetted before tick 600.. it definitely wasnt denial that brought up the argument. Maybe you just like to delay your moans a round so that no one can blame you at the time, another clever ploy, but moaning is moaning!
Its quite clear though that the wrong alliance was targetted and you werent targetted enough.. people just have to look at the current rankings. Moaning or no moaning doesnt change the fact Asc played a clever game making Denial out to be the only threat and have now benefitted from it, lets carry on disputing the obvious truth just to make you look better!
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30 Nov 2008, 21:24
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If not never; then once.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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All I'll say is VenoX, you don't exactly lend yourselves to being 'liked'. Ascendancy used to be hated in the same way you lot are now
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Wait, wait, wait........ People hate us on the internets? :crymeariver:
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30 Nov 2008, 21:43
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Over the moon
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
Someone in this thread said asc had barely any inc during last round, we aren't moaning about it at all, just had to set it straight since it was a silly thing to say.
I don't think denial was overtargeted this round, leaving them unhit for a few days has seen their roid average go from 10th to 3rd!
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Planets.
Zik: 3rd(r30), 4th(r52), 7th(r27), 9th(r26), 31st(r51)
Ter: 3rd(r50), 4th(r53), 4th(r37), 5th(r31) 7th (r58)
Xan: 3rd(r36), 40th(r57) 54th(r33), 104th(r29)
Cat: 8th (r54), 9th(r48), 12th (r55), 20th(r32), 77th(r23), 103rd(r38), 150th(r34), 152nd(r24),
Etd: 14th(r28)
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30 Nov 2008, 22:30
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
Everything posted on here nowadays is either called whining or moaning. The word has lost its meaning, knock if off.
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30 Nov 2008, 22:36
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
stop whining about others whining mz!!!
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1 Dec 2008, 00:34
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I know it was hard to hit the tough xan gals like mine and smasher's but nobody ever really tried. Instead you just got that gal whose co-ords I don't remember with the 2 asc etds getting mass incs pretty much every night.
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1 Dec 2008, 00:59
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Game^
TGV actually said no to it, not the other way round. TGV avoided our gals so that we would avoid their top planets, that changed however when they attempted to target one of the heavier Asc gals, at which point we vowed to remove their larger planets (this happened a week or so later, we were still busy with CT/ND at that point).
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Im not sure what part of Nitz and Car talking concerned U tbh cos it was quite clear from the outset nothing would come of it, as nothing ever did, the topic was dropped after a day of discussion as no-one was interested either within, or outside TGV, with good reason. But the point stands that VenoX could not have known therewas no TGV/Asc nap as TGV members, officers, and HC (apart from kargool who disappeared) believed we had a NAP, how would the rest of the universe know different when we were all so wrong ourselves!?!
On the other things, I think since its a choice between Denial and Asc and choosing Denial means fighting asc the universe will be content with asc as winners since we cordially hate both; the lesser of 2 evils in this case is not the one hated less just the one who happens to be harder to stop at this moment in time, really Y bother fighting asc just to give denial back the top spot half the universe just fought to deprive them of?
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1 Dec 2008, 01:09
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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On the other things, I think since its a choice between Denial and Asc and choosing Denial means fighting asc the universe will be content with asc as winners since we cordially hate both; the lesser of 2 evils in this case is not the one hated less just the one who happens to be harder to stop at this moment in time, really Y bother fighting asc just to give denial back the top spot half the universe just fought to deprive them of?
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Quite good logic tbh, though I would guess if the universe managed to take down Ascendancy, it would be CT in prime position to take #1, not Denial.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Game^
All I'll say is VenoX, you don't exactly lend yourselves to being 'liked'. Ascendancy used to be hated in the same way you lot are now, however a lot has changed, and I'd imagine it's in part due to the fact we don't moan on these forums about incoming, we get on with it in game, a lesson to be learnt?
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after I joined we have become the center of love.
I fully understand it!
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1 Dec 2008, 02:34
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
This thread has just got lame.
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1 Dec 2008, 07:49
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Quite good logic tbh, though I would guess if the universe managed to take down Ascendancy, it would be CT in prime position to take #1, not Denial.
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Hahaha. No.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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As regards TGV, and I hope kargool doesn't mind me saying this, but when we started getting hit by vgn/nd/ct/vsn we offered (or it came up I don't remember how exactly this went) NAPs to both rock and tgv. Rock took it and we kept that one until the end of the round. TGV didn't.
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i asked you for the nap as the other rock HC were not happy unless i got you or game to actually say we were napped and not just avoiding each other
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1 Dec 2008, 10:16
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
the universe seems to be left with a choice of helping ascendancy win, or helping denial win. Lesser of 2 evils?
The vast majority of the players i have spoken to have a great disliking for you VenoX, and on the flip side although people dislike ascendancy there is a great deal of respect for its playerbase and what it has achieved. i would say that the lesser of the 2 evils in this case would be Ascendancy
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1 Dec 2008, 10:27
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
It was always a fight between Ascendancy and Denial. CT never goes for alliance win, their playing style (or maybe the player base) is just not so well suited to it. ND is better in this respect, but I don't believe either Denial or Ascendancy would allow them to win.
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1 Dec 2008, 10:34
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
After a three year or so break, it's fairly obvious that this games userbase is slowly depleting.
Grown adults arguing over who is hated more? The battle between alliances should be a match over who has the best players and partly luck (obviously someone is going to get less incs). Rather than this ongoing battle of hate because people didn't get along in previous rounds.
I probably sound like I'm having a bitch, it's just one thing I've always wanted in PA is a larger user base like back in the early rounds. I'm somehow still one of the youngest players - it has gotten that bad. However that's discussion for another section of the forum
More on topic, I see Ascendancy winning, they managed to get away with hiding production and a high roid count for too long. The rest of us were gangbashing Denial while Asc and CT had an easy run with the roids. Most of these alliances are new to me so I don't have any opinion of the current politics - maybe the next few rounds will change my mind?
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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After a three year or so break, it's fairly obvious that this games userbase is slowly depleting.
Grown adults arguing over who is hated more? The battle between alliances should be a match over who has the best players and partly luck (obviously someone is going to get less incs). Rather than this ongoing battle of hate because people didn't get along in previous rounds.
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But if as looks likely Asc win it will be because they have the best players, which is a generally accepted fact, as has been mentioned the dislike of Denial and Asc cancels each other out.
If previous rounds mattered everyone would be all out to stop asc as their win made for a terrible round last time for the rest of us.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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After a three year or so break, it's fairly obvious that this games userbase is slowly depleting.
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The bane of PA, right there.
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Grown adults arguing over who is hated more? The battle between alliances should be a match over who has the best players and partly luck (obviously someone is going to get less incs). Rather than this ongoing battle of hate because people didn't get along in previous rounds.
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Politics has been a part of PA since it started and it's indeed the most interesting part.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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The vast majority of the players i have spoken to have a great disliking for you VenoX
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I dont really give a shit what a bunch of people who have never even spoken to me personally, think of me. Quite funny you seem to keep neg repping me and no one else does, I must be pretty hated, by you atleast! Maybe it was because i suggested that you were a shit useless HC and that you have no idea whats going on in PA anymore, now your holding it against me, dude, truth hurts! If you want to talk about me with ur little group of VenoX hating friends though, feel free, i like the attention, maybe even consider sending me hate mail or something i can atleast read and bask in my internet-fame.
Thanks for reporting me and getting me banned for that pathetic reason btw (I see kila calling arabs terrorists post (resa thread) is still up and he isnt banned but god forbid i suggest indians might have a sense of humour!), nice to know PA team does listen to someone in the community tho, all be it, the idiots. This post'll prolly get deleted again now i mentioned this.
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1 Dec 2008, 13:41
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Politics has been a part of PA since it started and it's indeed the most interesting part.
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Politics is interesting, hate and grudges is not.
Comparatively, in the real world, you could consider them to be the same. Despite this I think PA would benefit from some fresh faces & new alliances to push the game forward. Advertising campaign anyone?
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by VenoX
I dont really give a shit what a bunch of people who have never even spoken to me personally, think of me.
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VenoX, it's not like the people who have spoken to you personally think any higher of you than the people that haven't - don't kid yourself.
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1 Dec 2008, 14:29
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Kenny
VenoX, it's not like the people who have spoken to you personally think any higher of you than the people that haven't - don't kid yourself.
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Atleast they can make an informed decision. If you don't like me after I've told you you're a useless twat, I don't blame you, but I'm not gonna lie to you or kiss your ass because you think your somebody, but if you don't like me when you haven't spoken to me, I dont care.
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1 Dec 2008, 14:37
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Paso Leaute
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
why do these threads always become insult hurling matches?
Zeyi is right it shouldn't be personal, the hate for alliances is institutionalized as it were; we dislike asc from envy, they trounce us so easily and make us look stupid; on the contrary we dislike denial for playing like elephants in the proverbial china shop, attacking anything that moves... both have also had 'cheating' incidents too at various times.
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1 Dec 2008, 14:49
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by VenoX
I dont really give a shit what a bunch of people who have never even spoken to me personally, think of me.
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The real question is whether you take it into account when planning the round.
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
Zeyi is right it shouldn't be personal, the hate for alliances is institutionalized as it were; we dislike asc from envy, they trounce us so easily and make us look stupid; on the contrary we dislike denial for playing like elephants in the proverbial china shop, attacking anything that moves... both have also had cheating incidents too at various times.
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While I hope this does not derail the thread even more, which cheating incidents in Ascendancy are you referring to? Last I checked we make a habit of immediately removing people who get permanently closed.
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Originally Posted by Zeyi
Politics is interesting, hate and grudges is not.
Comparatively, in the real world, you could consider them to be the same.
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Indeed. PA is more real world than most games out there.
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1 Dec 2008, 14:54
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Paso Leaute
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
While I hope this does not derail the thread even more, which cheating incidents in Ascendancy are you referring to? Last I checked we make a habit of immediately removing people who get permanently closed.
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U must have been writing while I edited my post to add the inverted commas round 'cheating' because the incident I was referring too was the hacking of other alliances webbys which I believe was r26, and not ingame so not cheating as such but the community regarded it as a fine excuse for an asc bash fest anyway. Underhand perhaps is a better word.... denials is memorable for ppl tho im sure
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1 Dec 2008, 14:55
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
why do these threads always become insult hurling matches?
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By "these threads" do you mean "every thread ever featured on Alliance Discussion"?
And VenoX, that's not true. You're more than capable of spouting bullshit to somebody's face when you're trying to suck up to them - regardless of what you actually think of them.
Not saying that's a bad thing, but dont pretend to be a straight-talker when it's just not the case!
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1 Dec 2008, 14:57
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Paso Leaute
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Kenny
By "these threads" do you mean "every thread ever featured on Alliance Discussion"?
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well not quite all im sure, but a shockingly large number of them!
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1 Dec 2008, 14:59
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
why do these threads always become insult hurling matches?
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Speaking for Kenny, I'd say he's trying to score points by following the current trend, to try and repair his own, damaged reputation. Isn't that whats the forums about after all, scoring points you can't score ingame and e-penis?
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And VenoX, that's not true. You're more than capable of spouting bullshit to somebody's face when you're trying to suck up to them - regardless of what you actually think of them.
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There is a difference in you THINKING YOU ARE CLEVER and saying that I'm bullshitting (the amount of times i hear "come on you cant kid a kidder" from you was quite lol) when I'm telling the truth, and me actually bullshitting. Your ignorance and/or arrogance doesn't mean I'm lying. I say things how I see it, some people love me for it, some people hate me.
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1 Dec 2008, 15:05
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
While I hope this does not derail the thread even more, which cheating incidents in Ascendancy are you referring to? Last I checked we make a habit of immediately removing people who get permanently closed.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong (I'm not), isn't elviz in Ascendancy this round? You recruited one of the most notorious rule-benders (and proven-multiple-times. permanently closed, cheat) in PA. Come on, people aren't that blind mz
Apologies for the double post, you folks reply too quickly.
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1 Dec 2008, 15:07
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by VenoX
Speaking for Kenny, I'd say he's trying to score points by following the current trend, to try and repair his own, damaged reputation. Isn't that whats the forums about after all, scoring points you can't score ingame and e-penis?
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If it is, then you fail @ the forums.
And thanks VenoX, but I'm quite capable of speaking for myself!
And in all fairness - do you not think I have enough of a personal gripe to make comments without them being part of any 'trends'? And there's nothing 'damaged' about my reputation my dear Llama - except in the eyes of you and yours. Botheredmuch? Not particularly.
Unlike you, I've been around here long enough for people to have formed opinions of me that aren't just based on 3 rounds of being an arrogant prick and a cheating one at that. I know that there's probably not a single person out there who's opinion of me I can change by a few simple forum posts, so I dont try.
Besides, I have a huge penis - you can keep your electronics
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1 Dec 2008, 15:07
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If not never; then once.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
U must have been writing while I edited my post to add the inverted commas round 'cheating' because the incident I was referring too was the hacking of other alliances webbys which I believe was r26, and not ingame so not cheating as such but the community regarded it as a fine excuse for an asc bash fest anyway. Underhand perhaps is a better word....
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It wasnt asc it was nox, afaik anyway....
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1 Dec 2008, 15:12
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
It was NoX. Everyone blamed Asc then bashed them - at which point NoX were like "Oh yeah, that was kinda us..."
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1 Dec 2008, 15:15
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Poblacht na hÉireann
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
Yeah, NoX were awesome. I liked them. Also, Kenny, VenoX has never been closed for cheating to my knowledge and certainly not in the last 3 rounds. You should withdraw the comment accusing him of such.
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1 Dec 2008, 15:15
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by Kenny
Unlike you, I've been around here long enough for people to have formed opinions of me that aren't just based on 3 rounds of being an arrogant prick and a cheating one at that.
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A cheat, sorry, what? Care to explain that?
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1 Dec 2008, 15:16
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mz.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Originally Posted by [B5]Londo
U must have been writing while I edited my post to add the inverted commas round 'cheating' because the incident I was referring too was the hacking of other alliances webbys which I believe was r26, and not ingame so not cheating as such but the community regarded it as a fine excuse for an asc bash fest anyway. Underhand perhaps is a better word.... denials is memorable for ppl tho im sure
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I believe the guy responsible for the 'cheating' was either never in Ascendancy, or kicked as per my earlier post. I have to admit I'm not sure on this, I'll happily eat my words if anyone can correct me. JBG is better at remembering past rounds than I am.
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Originally Posted by VenoX
Forgive me if I'm wrong (I'm not), isn't elviz in Ascendancy this round? You recruited one of the most notorious rule-benders (and proven-multiple-times. permanently closed, cheat) in PA. Come on, people aren't that blind mz .
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Personally I was against elviz joining for his history. The only way to weed out cheaters is by refusing them when they apply to alliances.
The pedant in me wants me to point out that I referred to cheating in Ascendancy; elviz has never cheated in Ascendancy. Yes, I know, I know, don't say anything.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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1 Dec 2008, 15:20
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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A cheat, sorry, what? Care to explain that?
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Oh that's right, you were never caught. Withdrawn.
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1 Dec 2008, 15:37
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
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Oh that's right, you were never caught. Withdrawn.
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So you're accusing me of cheating? without any evidence at all?
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1 Dec 2008, 15:42
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Drink is Good
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions
ITS OK VENOX I STILL THINK YOU'RE CUTE AND FLUFFY <3
This mek character has always been terrible at pa, pay no attention.
Kenny well i've seen this kids name being mentioned ever since pia, the less said the better.
YOU GUYS NEED TO LEAVE MY VENOX ALONE YOU'RE NOT BEING VERY NICE!
You remind me of Irvine from fang, good at the game, know your shit, good group of players behind you, but a little too emo.
ITS OK THOUGH VENOX KEEP YOUR HEAD HIGH FOR THE END IS NEAR.
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