r28 predictions

[cha^]

#1 eXi will win for sure, who cares about the rest?

[Almeida]

for gods sake, if eXi comes back it means i have to play the next round :S

[HeimdallR]

yeah yeah, eXi comes back, blah blah blah, yawn yawn

[exblade]

yeah really...im getting sick of the boy who cried wolf stories.
eXi isnt coming back and if they do then it wont be a surprise because everyone will expect it.

[Almeida]

meh, seems noone understood my sarcasm.

ofc eXi is not coming back, i doubt that any of the old HC team is willing to put as much effort into PA as we did in the past.

eXi won't play next round nor will eXi play any of the following 10 rounds.

who is putting up these rumours all the time? someone pls enlighten me, i've been away for some rounds.

on topic: i think Asc will win

[cha^]

eXi aint' coming back? aww

Well then I'll keep my old prediction.

Even thou. F-Crew FTW

[JonnyBGood]

ofc eXi is not coming back, i doubt that any of the old HC team is willing to put as much effort into PA as we did in the past.

It's good to see your willingness to take the piss out of the community has increased though. You lot were always far too serious

[Munkee]

ct 1
nd 2
asc 3
rock 4
vgn 5

[DrunkenViking]

1 - Those who cares the most
2 - Those that builds the best fence
3 - Those that allies/nap's one of the above

[Gary]

According to your criteria Chimpie:

Asc
CT
ND

See I can be nice to you on the AD forum ;p

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by Almeida

meh, seems noone understood my sarcasm.

ofc eXi is not coming back, i doubt that any of the old HC team is willing to put as much effort into PA as we did in the past.

eXi won't play next round nor will eXi play any of the following 10 rounds.

who is putting up these rumours all the time? someone pls enlighten me, i've been away for some rounds.

on topic: i think Asc will win

Does that mean you're not coming back either?
I miss the pink minidress!

[DrunkenViking]

Originally Posted by GJN

According to your criteria Chimpie:

Asc
CT
ND

See I can be nice to you on the AD forum ;p

Here we go again....nopes

Not a bad prediction. I would perhaps swap CT and ND.

[HeimdallR]

well predictions are usually wrong, the only thing you can predict every round is the classic "wakey whine thread"

[exblade]

hmm you're just provoking wakey now...lol.
and this round will be interesting anyway with Asc as the automatic #1 contender. you know CT/ND will have the hardest time ever standing up to them with Denial out of the way

[Mzyxptlk]

Denial were probably more cooperative last round than CT and ND ever were. If anything, we'll have a harder time this round. Not that it'll matter, obviously.

[exblade]

well there needs to be someone to stand up against everyone - im kinda sick of seeing the same alliances and people in the top ranks...lets see some wars between smaller alliances and support to them from t3

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by exblade

lets see some wars between smaller alliances and support to them from t3

I'd rather see it the other way around.

[exblade]

why? not a fan of the little guys?

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by exblade

hmm you're just provoking wakey now...lol.
and this round will be interesting anyway with Asc as the automatic #1 contender. you know CT/ND will have the hardest time ever standing up to them with Denial out of the way

Asc will without doubt win the round, and there's nothing ND or CT can do to stop them.
Asc is too smart, they'll probably play the "oh, we don't care, we're not even playing" card like they always do and ND/CT will be foolish enough to fall for that like they always do.

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by exblade

why? not a fan of the little guys?

What I meant was that I prefer the little guys getting involved in the wars of the big guys, rather than the big guys getting involved in the wars (if one can call them that) of the little guys.

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

Asc will without doubt win the round, and there's nothing ND or CT can do to stop them.
Asc is too smart, they'll probably play the "oh, we don't care, we're not even playing" card like they always do and ND/CT will be foolish enough to fall for that like they always do.

I did just say that the lack of help from Denial wouldn't matter to our winning chances. This mistaken "Ascendancy player" stereotype you idiots have in your head really is getting old. Move on.

[lokken]

I thought the idea of us being smart was pretty funny, to be honest.

[CBA]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

What I meant was that I prefer the little guys getting involved in the wars of the big guys, rather than the big guys getting involved in the wars (if one can call them that) of the little guys.



I did just say that the lack of help from Denial wouldn't matter to our winning chances. This mistaken "Ascendancy player" stereotype you idiots have in your head really is getting old. Move on.

Shut up mz

stop all the shite propaganda, then we wont have this "stereotype" view of asc players... and i mean not just you stop, your whole retarded alliance stop.

[HaNzI]

why is everyone still talking about nd/ct like they were 1 ally.
maybe ct and nd have to take some of the blame here?

in my oppinion, if CT and ND wants to win, they need to build their ally capable of winning alone and not fencing or naping the universe to add up for their lack of activity.
if they fail at working hard enough to achieve these goals then they should come back stronger next round instead of fooling themselves to believe they are the strongest ally. ND did that a few rounds and had 2 lucky wins (ill get flamed for this) and this will give CT a huge lead on them because ND is not evolving, and they fool themselves to think they are capable of winning.

It looks like CT takes this serious this round so ND will never beat them unless they do a followup with last rounds politics...
pretty much allying and NAPing the universe.

so i want to put CT on top followed by ASC and ND
but i suspect that with CT taking it serious this round and NDs lack of willingness to evolve into a better ally, they will break some ties and fight out a war ending with ND calling 2 other allies to back them up in the fight, leaving ASC on the sideline to win.

so with this i would say

ASC
CT
ND

[Mzyxptlk]

CT and ND are mentioned as one because it's expected Ascendancy will be the favorite for round win. As such, it makes sense that the number 2 and 3 work together, and to mention them together in threads such as this one. CT and ND have been known to formed long lasting pacts, notably in the last 2 of the 3 rounds ND won.

I'm not sure why you're talking about "blame", you make it look like they're doing something illegal, which is obviously not the case.

The rest of your post seems utter bollocks as well. ND didn't nap the universe last round and I see no reason why ND would want a fight with CT if it's not very clear they're running away with the round. And even then, many alliances demonstrate irrational loyalty when it comes to naps (NoX, anyone?).

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk

This mistaken "Ascendancy player" stereotype you idiots have in your head really is getting old. Move on.

I think the "Ascendancy player" stereotype that I have in my head is fairly accurate though, even if it's old.
My comment was really about the fact that most alliances never believe Ascendancy is a real threat, and when they realise they are a threat they're usually too late.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

I think the "Ascendancy player" stereotype that I have in my head is fairly accurate though, even if it's old.

It isn't really, nor was it ever generally accurate.

My comment was really about the fact that most alliances never believe Ascendancy is a real threat, and when they realise they are a threat they're usually too late.

Like in r25 where we had 3 alliances including 2 ranked higher than us target us when we were in fifth place and not a threat to win the round even vaguely?

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

It isn't really, nor was it ever generally accurate.

You must be quite the mindreader then, being able to say the stereotype I have in my head is not accurate eventhough I've never posted exactly what my "ascendancy player" stereotype is...

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

You must be quite the mindreader then, being able to say the stereotype I have in my head is not accurate eventhough I've never posted exactly what my "ascendancy player" stereotype is...

Asc is too smart, they'll probably play the "oh, we don't care, we're not even playing" card like they always do

...

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

...

That is just a small part of the stereotype I have, but I can see now that it was easy to understand it the wrong way.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

That is just a small part of the stereotype I have, but I can see now that it was easy to understand it the wrong way.

Wouldst thou care to enlighten the plebeians?

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Wouldst thou care to enlighten the plebeians?

Do you really care much what a random person on the internet thinks about you and your alliance?

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

Do you really care much what a random person on the internet thinks about you and your alliance?

I'm about to spend seven hours vaguely pretending to work. In fact I do so little work I can reply pretty much every few minutes on this forum. So right now, sure.

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

I'm about to spend seven hours vaguely pretending to work. In fact I do so little work I can reply pretty much every few minutes on this forum. So right now, sure.

Looks like you don't spend your day that much different from me then

The Ascendancy stereotype:
The good:
- Ascendancy people are some of the most experienced and capable players in this game.
- Most of the people in ascendancy are pretty intelligent and have a very good knowledge of PA.
- Most of the people in Asc that I've met are actually pretty cool and nice to talk to.
- They are excellent at getting other people to do exactly what they want without those people even noticing they're playing right into asc's hand.
- Alot of their players joined Ascendancy because they wanted to get out of the traditional alliance system. Think NitinA described it once to me (in a negrep ) "Ascendancy is more a group of coöperative solo's"
- I'm just guessing here but I believe there actually is a large community-feeling in Ascendancy.
- Masters at intell

The bad:
- They are excellent at getting other people to do exactly what they want without those people even noticing they're playing right into asc's hand.
- Somehow, alot of these people think when they join Ascendancy that their membership makes them "better" than all the other people that play pa.
- Alot of these people have an overinflated ego and think this game revolves around them and their alliance.
- If they find something they can exploit then they'll do it, no matter what the impact to the game is, not matter how many other people they'll leave angry and frustrated.


There is probably more I could say, but I believe I've covered the basics of what I think about Ascendancy and their players pretty well.
As you can see, I'm not that negative in my view of you guys and I'm glad that there is an Alliance like you around.
Sometimes though you have the ability to really annoy me

Feel free to contradict me where I'm wrong, after all it is your alliance and you should know alot more about it, how it works and the people in it than me, an outsider.

[JonnyBGood]

Nah, that's pretty accurate I'd say. I'm not too sure about

They are excellent at getting other people to do exactly what they want without those people even noticing they're playing right into asc's hand.

For the last while I've been doing a lot of politics and to be honest my approach is as straightforward as you can get.

I'm trying to remember though. You were in ascendancy for a while, how long was it exactly and what round(s)?

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Nah, that's pretty accurate I'd say. I'm not too sure about For the last while I've been doing a lot of politics and to be honest my approach is as straightforward as you can get.

I'm trying to remember though. You were in ascendancy for a while, how long was it exactly and what round(s)?

I was in Ascendancy for about 3-400 ticks a couple of rounds back, the round where there was an Ascendancy & Descendancy.
I needed roids, Alki was in Descendancy and had shitloads of roids & no value at all so I 2 waved Alki.
Same day I got "kicked" for being a "CT-spy" although I had 0 relations to CT at all . By "kicked" I mean having my access removed from channels, had to press the 'leave alliance' button myself.

Thought that was a bit hypocrite though, making up a fake reason to kick me when in fact all I had done wrong was roid somebody from (what you claimed on the forums soooo much) another alliance...

Anyway, no harm done. Not like I got a grudge against you guys or anything

[JonnyBGood]

Same day I got "kicked" for being a "CT-spy" although I had 0 relations to CT at all

We've had some really awesome excuses over the years.

The best analogy there would have been that you roided someone from an allied alliance. I don't really remember the spy thing to be honest (I wasn't that active that round).

[classical]

Originally Posted by HaNzI

#1 Asc
#2 CT
#3 TGV
#4 ND
#5 The ally made of leftovers
#6 ROCK
#7 VGN
#8 ASS
#9 Redemption
#10 F-Crew

Probably the best prediction so far. Asc to win ! well, they deserved r27 even if they didn't get it.

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

The best analogy there would have been that you roided someone from an allied alliance.

But I thought under the Ascendancy-style alliance everybody was "HC" and did what they decided to do themself, that has been the major selling point for Ascendancy, the total freedom you're supposed to have in the alliance and everybody being equal.

Turned out, for me atleast, that some people in Ascendancy do have more power than others and no thing like total freedom exists.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

But I thought under the Ascendancy-style alliance everybody was "HC" and did what they decided to do themself, that has been the major selling point for Ascendancy, the total freedom you're supposed to have in the alliance and everybody being equal.

Turned out, for me atleast, that some people in Ascendancy do have more power than others and no thing like total freedom exists.

We like to make up the rules as we go along. It's more efficient that way.

Put it this way it'd be like someone in Ascendancy going and roiding dunkelgraf. He's only been in tag one out of the last 7 or 8 odd rounds but if anyone actually tried roiding him I'd kick them in a heartbeat. I suppose it comes down to the don't be shit clause. One rule subbing in for the hundreds other alliances have at times.

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

I suppose it comes down to the don't be shit clause.

Nice & subtle way of calling me shit btw
I always knew I was doing something wrong with 2-waving alki though, just didn't care one bit at that moment in time

Edit: gonna stop derailing this prediction thread now

[VenoX]

I still think eXi will win!

[Mzyxptlk]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

I always knew I was doing something wrong with 2-waving alki though, just didn't care one bit at that moment in time

That's 2 very good reasons for kicking you right there.

[HeimdallR]

Originally Posted by classical

Probably the best prediction so far. Asc to win ! well, they deserved r27 even if they didn't get it.

No it isn't cause it doesn't mention us in top 10, doubt that 5th spot is meant for us.

[HeimdallR]

Originally Posted by exblade

well there needs to be someone to stand up against everyone - im kinda sick of seeing the same alliances and people in the top ranks...lets see some wars between smaller alliances and support to them from t3

you are a dreamer exblade, as bc of Hidden Agenda for 5 rounds i can say that everytime a big ally approached us was solely out of selfgain.
If they approached us at all during a round.

And even smaller allies have their own agenda, you can't approach a small ally in the final week to help you out when they are battling for their own spot and expect a positive response.

[Cartman]

#1 eX
#2 Asc

[Ziw]

#1 eX
#2 Asc

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by Ziw

#1 eX
#2 Asc

#1 1up
#2 eXi
#3 LCH
#4 Omen
#5 NoS

[HeimdallR]

only one ally #1 for me

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by HeimdallR

only one ally #1 for me

F-crew?

[HeimdallR]

Originally Posted by Veedeejem!

F-crew?