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29 May 2003, 13:03
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Why the matrix isn't true
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29 May 2003, 13:04
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because its a film.
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29 May 2003, 13:05
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the mashines would have killed the people who made the movie to keep us ignorant.
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29 May 2003, 13:09
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they may have created the movie to convince us falsely that its fictional.
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29 May 2003, 13:09
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Shai Halud
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Because "the matrix" is not Boolean?
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29 May 2003, 13:10
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Quote:
Originally posted by sayonara
Because "the matrix" is not Boolean?
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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29 May 2003, 13:14
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Shai Halud
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Quote:
Originally posted by ELeeming
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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I thought so
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29 May 2003, 13:17
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King of The Fat Boys
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The real question is: Does it matter if it is?
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29 May 2003, 13:30
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Anon.
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Its the same as:
How do you know that you are not in something á la The Truman Show?
BECAUSE ITS A FILM YOU MONGRELS.
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29 May 2003, 13:33
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Yeah but if it was you'd never know anyway.
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29 May 2003, 13:40
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The matrix is not real because its based around a giant computer program , and nobody has ever said "LOL" in it.
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29 May 2003, 13:57
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The matrix is meant to be a prison, right?
Yet we don't even know if it's there so why is it a prison?
By the same logic that the wankowski brothers use on those films, you could argue that the Earth is a prison; we could leave it for the ISS for example yet we aren't allowed!
Bloody NASA fascists!
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29 May 2003, 13:59
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Henry Kelly
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kurashima
The matrix is not real because its based around a giant computer program , and nobody has ever said "LOL" in it.
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That and Neo's first words to Trinity weren't
Totally unrealistic.
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29 May 2003, 14:03
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Re: Why the matrix isn't true
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Originally posted by Androme2
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Go away, nobody likes you.
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29 May 2003, 14:04
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King of The Fat Boys
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
The matrix is meant to be a prison, right?
Yet we don't even know if it's there so why is it a prison?
By the same logic that the wankowski brothers use on those films, you could argue that the Earth is a prison; we could leave it for the ISS for example yet we aren't allowed!
Bloody NASA fascists!
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It is better to live an uncomfortable truth than a comfortable lie.
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29 May 2003, 14:28
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nodrog
because its a film.
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29 May 2003, 14:40
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
It is better to live an uncomfortable truth than a comfortable lie.
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Why?
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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29 May 2003, 14:43
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Wait -- are you asking if the matrix-in-a-matrix is true, or if the single-level matrix is true, or what?
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29 May 2003, 14:44
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King of The Fat Boys
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
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Because that's the message of the film.
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29 May 2003, 14:49
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
Because that's the message of the film.
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But thats the point of the thread; Why is the matrix film wrong?
I say because your statemment is wrong:
It is NOT better to live an uncomfortable truth than a comfortable lie.
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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29 May 2003, 14:56
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King of The Fat Boys
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
But thats the point of the thread; Why is the matrix film wrong?
I say because your statemment is wrong:
It is NOT better to live an uncomfortable truth than a comfortable lie.
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Germans living in the Third Reich didn't know that Jews were being exterminated in concentration camps. They were happy in their ignorance, they didn't know any better. Does this mean that they would have been better off staying ignorant?
Anyway, I don't expect you to understand since judging by your sig you're an RP'er 
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29 May 2003, 15:00
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
Germans living in the Third Reich didn't know that Jews were being exterminated in concentration camps. They were happy in their ignorance, they didn't know any better. Does this mean that they would have been better off staying ignorant?
Anyway, I don't expect you to understand since judging by your sig you're an RP'er
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∴ Roleplaying is anti-semitic.
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29 May 2003, 15:15
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The Matrix isn't true as no machine could ever have come up with someone as retarded as TheMightyGoat #'s 1 through 7.
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29 May 2003, 15:21
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Shai Halud
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dead_Meat
The Matrix isn't true as no machine could ever have come up with someone as retarded as TheMightyGoat #'s 1 through 7.
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Wasn't he the guy with the knife in Zion?
He was cutting his own flesh.
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29 May 2003, 16:18
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
Germans living in the Third Reich didn't know that Jews were being exterminated in concentration camps. They were happy in their ignorance, they didn't know any better. Does this mean that they would have been better off staying ignorant?
Anyway, I don't expect you to understand since judging by your sig you're an RP'er
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Point taken,
but wtf does me being a RPer have to do with not understanding?
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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29 May 2003, 16:22
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King of The Fat Boys
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
Point taken,
but wtf does me being a RPer have to do with not understanding?
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Well, roleplaying involves creating an alternate reality, in essence living a lie, no?
Nothing to do with my Third Reich analogy.
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29 May 2003, 18:47
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obviously somebody hasn't read the matrix theory!
some crackpot professor who probably works at some crappy university like oxford brookes said:
"if we do create AI there is the chance that they could take over us. and if they do create a matrix who's to say this hasn't already happened and we are in the matrix right now?"
that man deserves to have his balls cut with a blunt scalpel
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29 May 2003, 19:26
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChubbyChecker
Well, roleplaying involves creating an alternate reality, in essence living a lie, no?
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We take part in stories, yes but we know it's not real.
It's really no worse than reading a fiction book
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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29 May 2003, 20:52
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King of The Fat Boys
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cmdr_Cyrax
We take part in stories, yes but we know it's not real.
It's really no worse than reading a fiction book
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Yes, OK, it was just my crap attempt at making a joke
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29 May 2003, 20:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bloomers III
some crackpot professor who probably works at some crappy university like oxford brookes said:
"if we do create AI there is the chance that they could take over us. and if they do create a matrix who's to say this hasn't already happened and we are in the matrix right now?"
that man deserves to have his balls cut with a blunt scalpel
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To be fair he isn't saying he believes it has happened, just that if it has, we wouldn't know about it.
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29 May 2003, 21:03
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nodrog
because its a film.
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Because it upsets nod's precious objectivist theories of reality!
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29 May 2003, 21:06
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Henry Kelly
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Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyBGood
Because it upsets nod's precious objectivist theories of reality!
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Or in marketing blurb terms
It blurs the boundaries between his philosophical and spiritual existence, a whirlwind ride through psuedo-existentialism that'll leave your heart racing and your seat wet
Or something
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29 May 2003, 23:07
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Because the machines could afford better actors than Keanu Reeves.
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29 May 2003, 23:17
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The matrix is true.
It's all a lie.
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30 May 2003, 00:12
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7 Dimensional Puddleduck
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Why humans?
If there were a matrix it would be constructed to hold a stupid species which still produce the body heat and stuff.
In other words, there are far too few blondes about for us to be put in a matrix by machines...
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<CmdrCyrax> I'm sure GDers are bastions of the civilized world.
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