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Unread 31 Jan 2011, 17:57   #1
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PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

Universe,

Since there is so much political yeh-who out there and no one seems to really know who to believe, or what to think, ND has now decided to stand alone and opt out of anything we were apart of up until this tick.

A few things about myself, and flame on if you care, I have not, one time, lied to anyone in this entire game about politics. Take it or leave it, its how I am. What is sad, we try to play this game with the old school mind set, where wars were 1vs1, no one backstabbed, and you could count on an alliance to be your partner until the end; seems that those morales have been otherwise corrupt over the years and now Planetarion is filled with backstabbers and the likes of that all.

So from this point forwards, ND will be standing alone, fighting our own battles, not someone else, and hoping to tip the scales to allow a proper alliance to win this round.

If anyone is actually willing to trust me out there instead of think i'm a crazy lying bad guy, then so be it. I kept to my word during the whole NFI bit too, until they got crazy also. If not...

we staND alone!
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

Rephrased: You're going for 2ND (again)
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

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What is sad, we try to play this game with the old school mind set, where wars were 1vs1

we staND alone!
The 6 vs 1 gangbanging of Apprime, which YOU were a part of, makes you look pretty stupid now
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

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Rephrased: You're going for 2ND (again)
nope we do not fight for second, we will still fight for #1, ND is done settling for #2.

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The 6 vs 1 gangbanging of Apprime, which YOU were a part of, makes you look pretty stupid now
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So from this point forwards, ND will be standing alone, fighting our own battles, not someone else, and hoping to tip the scales to allow a proper alliance to win this round.
would you care to elaborate on what (or who) you define as a 'proper alliance'?
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would you care to elaborate on what (or who) you define as a 'proper alliance'?
I'd say Apprime is the only hardcore alliance. Thats why they need the 6 versus 1.

Proper alliance, one who sticks to their guns, very simply, none exist in this game. That is the only reason why we kept ascendancy friendly over the rounds, they are an alliance you can count on. Thats pretty simple. The days of Pre-PAX are long gone, when I could say to Blue Tuba, we are allied together, and then the day havoc starts, we part ways...
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

CT are Angels, Apprime wins.

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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

http://www.clawofdarkness.com/pawiki/index.php/Round_15

Just to be clear you're all idiots for not reading planetarion history and putting aside your differences. The fact that there are personnel in the same positions involved on all three sides makes your political moves all the more staggeringly awful.

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play this game with the old school mind set, where wars were 1vs1, no one backstabbed, and you could count on an alliance to be your partner until the end; seems that those morales have been otherwise corrupt over the years and now Planetarion is filled with backstabbers and the likes of that all.
You're a fool. The only "important" moral is honesty, if you wish to have morals. Be honest that you don't plan to stay partners to the end, and then play good politics. And then maybe actually achieve something, if you had any ambitions. Which you clearly don't seeing as you've gone on to declare your intentions to king-make for Apprime.

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the old school mind set, where wars were 1vs1, no one backstabbed, and you could count on an alliance to be your partner until the end
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Universe,

Since there is so much political yeh-who out there and no one seems to really know who to believe, or what to think, ND has now decided to stand alone and opt out of anything we were apart of up until this tick.

A few things about myself, and flame on if you care, I have not, one time, lied to anyone in this entire game about politics. Take it or leave it, its how I am. What is sad, we try to play this game with the old school mind set, where wars were 1vs1, no one backstabbed...
I was almost going to cry, but those last words turned it into a big rofl.
Not being able to use arbiter is nothing funny, but trying to disguise your noobish mistakes into a political decision that's a cracker.
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

1 on 1 war is always what I prefer and I got heavily flamed several times because of this. I'm tired of this gang up shit

btw Makhil your sig is A W E S O M E. I still have to laugh about it
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You're a fool. The only "important" moral is honesty, if you wish to have morals. Be honest that you don't plan to stay partners to the end, and then play good politics. And then maybe actually achieve something, if you had any ambitions. Which you clearly don't seeing as you've gone on to declare your intentions to king-make for Apprime.

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Tried with honesty, that doesnt work.
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btw Makhil your sig is A W E S O M E. I still have to laugh about it
Might I remind you that I was 'smith'! That was Round.. 27 or 28 I think.

RE: OP

I never accused YOU of lying about the whole NFI thing, DigitalZero, but you admitted to doing the things I said you had (i.e. approached other alliances). I thought we can both agree you made your move based on the notion that I was making moves (which at the time I wasn't). That's all there was to R38 - we were fighting (you and I) and as such were far more likely to believe or jumpt at the chance of getting one over on the other. That's politics. But you're right, you didn't lie. I'd personally trust you again
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1 on 1 war is always what I prefer and I got heavily flamed several times because of this. I'm tired of this gang up shit
If you'd like I can tell you the ranking of every alliance by quality each round and we can avoid the tedium of actually bothering to play the thing out.
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were there ever 1v1 in this game?
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thank you kenny!
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Might I remind you that I was 'smith'! That was Round.. 27 or 28 I think.
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@JBG: Yeah I have to agree there. I guess it takes some kind of responsibility for competition to get all hardcore players to join different allys in equal numbers. And we all know this won't ever happen.
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

It doesnt matter what anyone does now. Since Rock decided to end the block, Apprime wins. Congratulations everyone, what looked to be a good round has been ended early.

Well played Apprime, not just by the quality you had but for being able to convince Rock to be shit.

GG everyone. I bet Apprime cant stop laughing at how they've manipulated Rock. o well, I guess at CT was fighting for the win, Rock had to take over as the shittest alliance.
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The 6 vs 1 gangbanging of Apprime, which YOU were a part of, makes you look pretty stupid now
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It doesnt matter what anyone does now. Since Rock decided to end the block, Apprime wins. Congratulations everyone, what looked to be a good round has been ended early.

Well played Apprime, not just by the quality you had but for being able to convince Rock to be shit.

GG everyone. I bet Apprime cant stop laughing at how they've manipulated Rock. o well, I guess at CT was fighting for the win, Rock had to take over as the shittest alliance.
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I'd say Apprime is the only hardcore alliance. Thats why they need the 6 versus 1.

Proper alliance, one who sticks to their guns, very simply, none exist in this game. That is the only reason why we kept ascendancy friendly over the rounds, they are an alliance you can count on. Thats pretty simple. The days of Pre-PAX are long gone, when I could say to Blue Tuba, we are allied together, and then the day havoc starts, we part ways...
Bend over and take the shaft! ;D
It's all about beeing as shitty as possible, and to let them win without a propper fight for it! ;D

edit: Well done, go for 2ND! ;D
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Try 3 vs 1.
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

Being targeted by vs. receiving incomings from.
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

light your a fool it wasn't rock who ended the incomming it was nd kinda they requested once apprime wasn't 1st that the ceasefire between nd rock ct ended that's what happened.

rock was still hitting apprime after ceasefire ended that's point 2.

rock then hit ct night after.

rock then hit nd last night.

rock is having fun pa is fun if apprime win they deserve it.

apprime are an awesome ally and deserve alot of respect.

if you moan about letting apprime win make an ally to challenge them instead of blaming others.
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light your a fool it wasn't rock who ended the incomming it was nd kinda they requested once apprime wasn't 1st that the ceasefire between nd rock ct ended that's what happened.

rock was still hitting apprime after ceasefire ended that's point 2.

rock then hit ct night after.

rock then hit nd last night.

rock is having fun pa is fun if apprime win they deserve it.

apprime are an awesome ally and deserve alot of respect.

if you moan about letting apprime win make an ally to challenge them instead of blaming others.
ND wanted to continue hitting Apprime, Rock decided against it then hit CT and ND in successive nights with Apprime and ODDR joining them.

Its fine if you're just playing for fun, then you dont have to justify your position. Joining a block and stagnating the round so you can get high scoring planets is fun for some people.

and it annoys me when people say, if you dont like something.. create an ally yourself to fix it. Its one of the most retarded comments you can make, its like saying.. "hey if you dont like PA.. make a game yourself instead of blaming the PA Team".
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

well true light but i like the pa team there great people and they do alot for pa.

i love apprime for the commitement they show us while playing pa.

i love rock cause we play for fun and not what other alliances want us to do, no one expected rock to be top 5 this round even us we just took in anyone who applied and thought lets have fun.
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ND wanted to continue hitting Apprime, Rock decided against it then hit CT and ND in successive nights with Apprime and ODDR joining them.

Its fine if you're just playing for fun, then you dont have to justify your position. Joining a block and stagnating the round so you can get high scoring planets is fun for some people.

and it annoys me when people say, if you dont like something.. create an ally yourself to fix it. Its one of the most retarded comments you can make, its like saying.. "hey if you dont like PA.. make a game yourself instead of blaming the PA Team".
And what really anoys me is the complete disrespect you have shown to an alliance which has been around before you even graced us with your PA presence! Not only did you brand it a 'training alliance' and reffered to it as 'shit' just beciase its aims were not to come first you also now have the nerve to claim 2 alliances which have won PA before in previous rounds needed us (which you blatently called in public a TRAINING ALLIANCE) to acheive the goal of taking down Apprime. My Comment to you on irc was regards to all the stupid pms i got dictating how ROCK should be playing... erm why should ROCK do things just becuase YOU want things to be that way? Hence why i said stop dictating stuff to others and do it your dam self! And while your at it go read the PA wikki about the alliance ROCK and see its history, and see the quote which states how honest and respected ROCK has always been when doing pollitics. As your getting to really annoy me.
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well true light but i like the pa team there great people and they do alot for pa.

i love apprime for the commitement they show us while playing pa.

i love rock cause we play for fun and not what other alliances want us to do, no one expected rock to be top 5 this round even us we just took in anyone who applied and thought lets have fun.
I'm sure you love your mother as well but that wouldn't really make a difference if she started advocating the slaughter of jews.







(I'm saying personal preferences don't justify bad politics in case anyone didn't get it.)
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Just to be clear you're all idiots for not reading planetarion history and putting aside your differences. The fact that there are personnel in the same positions involved on all three sides makes your political moves all the more staggeringly awful.

Get better at planetarion.
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

Digitalzero, cut back on the drama pls
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

People pick on Rock as if they are the only ones who messed this. I am not affiliated with them but even I heard plans from "the block" to turn against Rock.
Now you wonder why they left the awesomeness called "block"?

You've done the best you could. Again as I said I am not affiliated with them but as far as i have seen Rock was used to drain def so CT/ND could nicely land some attacks. I'd have left such a block as well, especially after rumours about them planning to hit me (even if it is just rumours).
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People pick on Rock as if they are the only ones who messed this. I am not affiliated with them but even I heard plans from "the block" to turn against Rock.
Now you wonder why they left the awesomeness called "block"?

You've done the best you could. Again as I said I am not affiliated with them but as far as i have seen Rock was used to drain def so CT/ND could nicely land some attacks. I'd have left such a block as well, especially after rumours about them planning to hit me (even if it is just rumours).
Wow, that was complete insanity. You don't happen to work for the Sun's transfer rumour generating department do you?
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Wow, that was complete insanity. You don't happen to work for the Sun's transfer rumour generating department do you?
I said as far as I could see and I pointed out several times that I'm not much affiliated into it. Only saying what I heard from trustworthy sources.

But yeah let's agree PA is all good, all alliances are awesome, only Rock messed this round. Fine?
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Re: PT 403, ND Stands Alone.

I always thought i was awesome :crymeariver:
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we don't mind nd blaming us as nd will never learn from there mistakes as admitting them is the first step in understanding them then them mistakes can be fixed and to never happen again
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we don't mind nd blaming us as nd will never learn from there mistakes as admitting them is the first step in understanding them then them mistakes can be fixed and to never happen again
From Rocks point of view? what should ND of done different? what was there mistake?
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From Rocks point of view? what should ND of done different? what was there mistake?
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a) allowing a political environment to arise where they were portrayed as untrustworthy.
b) allowing CT to take the upper hand in politics
c) not giving ROCK enough comfort cookies
d) being called ND
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I said as far as I could see and I pointed out several times that I'm not much affiliated into it. Only saying what I heard from trustworthy sources.
My trustworthy source, me, being there, says yours are full of shit.

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My trustworthy source, me, being there, says yours are full of shit.
Sorry bud, I don't like this kind of conversation. So have fun and grow up.
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I would but my trustworthy sources inform me your mother had sex with a goat to produce you and my mother always told me to never trust goat-people
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We had incs from them all, wether some just launched last min to get roids dosent matter.
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