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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 18:11   #201
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

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Not at all, that would have been a perfectly valid thing to do.

As for the reply, if you'd looked, you might have noticed that I haven't actually DMed anything today. What conclusions might you draw from that?
That you're a lazy feck?
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 18:12   #202
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

*King Disrupter sits around idly waiting for his ships and budget to finish. He has been patient, but its dragging on and on.*

ooc/ I dont follow politics well, plus i somehow managed to miss ALL of the bill discussion. Ill try and be there next time.

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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 18:13   #203
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That you're a lazy feck?
Oh, that was funny.

Just like it's going to be funny to watch Freiland desparately trying to surpress a mass Little Purple Critter Thing infestation.
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 18:15   #204
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*King Disrupter sits around idly waiting for his ships and budget to finish. He has been patient, but its dragging on and on.*

ooc/ I dont follow politics well, plus i somehow managed to miss ALL of the bill discussion. Ill try and be there next time.

ND can u DM us now?
I'm currently DMing the League vote and its results. Are you voting or will you just abstain?

If you mean DM as in tick over into the next turn, that happens at set times. The next turn starts on saturday. Why haven't you corrected that problem with the weapons on your Orbital Hangar being too big yet?
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 18:22   #206
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/ooc/ inspectre, you stole the words right off my keyboard, now give them back /ooc/
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

The results of the vote on the proposed Resolution 4902 of the League of Planets

Planets FOR
Republic of Uranus, Sol System, Inner Sphere (4 Seats)
Socialist States of Mars, Sol System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)
Commonwealth of New Vancouver, Southern Hub System, Southern Border (2 Seats)
Republic of Harn's World, Lonestar System, Northwestern Border (1 Seat)
New Moscow, Eastern Hub System, Southeastern Border (4 Seats)
Republic of Centauri Prime, Alpha Centauri System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)
Trading Freehold of Terra Haut, Northern Hub System, Northern Border (2 Seats)
People's Republic of Sanchean, Eastern Cloud System, Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume (1 Seat)
Kingdom of Elyssium, Karlak System, Eastern Border (1 Seat)
Lunar Republic of New Ontario, Southern Hub System, Southern Border (1 Seat)
Republic of New Sparta, Low Reach System, Southern Fringe (1 Seat)

Planets AGAINST
Frontier 1, Frontier System, Northeastern Fringe (1 Seat)
Federal Republic of Altan, Altan System, Northeastern Fringe (1 Seat)
Baraki Republic, Barak System, Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume (1 Seat)
Republic of Freiland, Sestelle System, Northern Border (1 Seat)
Republic of Cienelle, Sestelle System, Northern Border (1 Seat)
Kingdom of Ios, High Reach System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)
Empire of Sulphos, South Reach System, Southern Fringe (1 Seat)
Mgana, Mgana Outpost System, Southern Fringe (1 Seat)
Republic of Teian Point, Karlak System, Eastern Border (1 Seat)
Republic of Tau Ceti Prime, Tau Ceti System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)
Republic of New Tokyo, Eastern Cloud System, Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume (1 Seat)
Papal States of New Roma, Lonestar System, Northwestern Border (1 Seat)
Kingdom of Neuilly, Neuilly System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)
Federal Republic of New Berlin, New Berlin System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)
United Republic of New Boston, New Massachusets System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)
Sarakesh, West Frontier System, Northwestern Fringe (1 Seat)
Northwest Outpost, Northwest Outpost System, Northwestern Fringe (1 Seat)
Republic of Talamak, Far West System, Southeastern Fringe (1 Seat)
New London, Western Hub System, Western Fringe (1 Seat)
Democratic Republic of Earth, Sol System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)
Republic of New Earth, Cook System, Southern Fringe (1 Seat)
Republic of Tau Ceti Septus, Tau Ceti System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)
People's Republic of Nova Centauri, Alpha Centauri System, Inner Sphere (1 Seat)

Planets ABSTAINING
Republic of Suneddan, Bloodstar System, Southern Fringe (1 Seat)
People's Republic of Pei-Quan, Eastern Hub System, Southeastern Border (1 Seat)
Republic of Biseht, Biseht System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)
Kingdom of Stygis, High Reach System, Northern Fringe (1 Seat)

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I think that's all the planets accounted for. I'm aware that the Seats shown don't add up to 100. They will after the re-allocation of Seats next turn.

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Total Votes FOR Proposed Resolution 4092 of the League of Planets: 19
Total Votes AGAINST Proposed Resolution 4092 of the League of Planets: 23
Total Planets ABSTRAINING From the Vote: 4

President Velasqez announces that the General Council of the League of Planets has thus DECLINED Proposed Resolution 4092 of the League of Planets by a narrow margin, and on that note concludes this Bienniel Meeting of the League.
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 19:20   #208
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

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Sends an envoy to New Sparta proposing that the system be divided so that they get 1 and 2, and i get 3, 4 and 5, but they can have first pick on any new systems explored, and will recieve defensive aid in the event of a pirate attack. The envoy also proposes a joint exploration effort to be sent to F-131S a year from now (if resources are availiable)
The government of New Sparta replies that it requires no "defensive aid" from the likes of the Sulphosi Empire, but shows some support for the idea of partititioning the system along these lines. The government of New Sparta has no interest in a joint exploration effort at this time.

Freiland and Cienelle being dirty little alliance sluts...
Frontier 1 expresses no interest whatsoever in joining the Alliance, and informs the Freilander Representative in no uncertain terms that Frontier 1 shall not have the rule of any alliance imposed on it, and that it shall not accept any Alliance operations within its sphere of influence.

The New Berliner Representative informs the Freilander Representative that, while his planet would welcome aid against the pirates, New Berlin is not willing to sell itself into slavery in order to save itself from destruction. It does not wish to join any form of alliance at this time and, should this be a condition of it recieving military aid from Freiland or any other power, it must regretfully decline said aid.

No other planets express interest in joining the Alliance at this time (name them you lazy SOBs. I'm not going to give you anything if you operate the diplomatic equivelant of spam emails).
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 19:35   #209
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

ooc: *bitchslaps all planets abstaining*
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 19:37   #210
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/ooc/even if the abstaining ones had all voted in support it would have caused a draw, it just goes to show that noone likes your proposals, and is there any particular reason new moscow gets 4 votes? /ooc/
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it just goes to show that noone likes your proposals,
Did you even read the results? Because if noone had liked the proposal it would have been a little bit more decisive.

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and is there any particular reason new moscow gets 4 votes? /ooc/
Yes. It's a highly successful trading planet. Ships wanting to get to the Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume or to the Southeastern Fringe have to pass through its sphere of influence.
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 19:42   #212
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/ooc/even if the abstaining ones had all voted in support it would have caused a draw, it just goes to show that noone likes your proposals, and is there any particular reason new moscow gets 4 votes? /ooc/
ooc: Flaag, realize for a moment that we are all fringe worlds, and that you'd have to be insane to vote for my resolution if you are a fringe world/not me. I didn't expect any votes from us...
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Unread 19 Aug 2004, 19:44   #213
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ooc: You mean the trade to my planet is controled by a comunist dictator ship? *grumbles*
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/ooc/ 4/46=8%, thats 12%more than the last american election was won by /ooc/
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ooc: And your damn point is?
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Jean Bisson thanks the Frontier representative for his time, and lets him know that should he change his mind, the offer would remain open. For the time being, the people of Freiland would hope that if not for an official alliance, then perhaps at least the two nations could exchange intel on the local pirate clans, or even launch joint raids on known pirate bases in the near future.

After talking with the New Berlin representative, the Vice Admiral reassures him that it was not the intention of Freiland or the Frontier Alliance to forcibly assimilate New Berlin into the alliance, nor make conditions as to aid against the pirates. The Vice Admiral would, however, like to see some cooperation from the New Berlin government against the pirates, such as providing any known intel on the pirate clans currently operating within the New Berlin system, their capabilities, numbers, etc. An estimate on how much longer the New Berlin government could stand against the pirates would be helpful as well, thus giving the Frontier Alliance a timeline against which to prepare a relief effort.

Finally, after completing the negotiations with the two representatives, the Vice Admiral meets with the representative from Baraki. He thanks the representative for his support during the debate over League funding for the Frontier Alliance's anti-piracy initiative, and then gets down to business.

"Obviously, the Inner Worlds have no intention of giving a single cent towards protection against the pirates. Therefore, the Frontier worlds will probably have to foot the bill, as usual. While we can begin anti-piracy operations on our own intiative, funding from the League could have given us a substantial head start. Still, we are hoping that we can convince some of the Frontier worlds to help fund us personally. Due to your support during the debate, I had hoped that you might be willing to work out some sort of arrangement with us, perhaps not a full alliance, but perhaps some sort of interplanetary loan or donation to help us build up our forces more quickly."
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Yes. It's a highly successful trading planet. Ships wanting to get to the Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume or to the Southeastern Fringe have to pass through its sphere of influence.
nah, they can also go through Ost-S (cant work out the full name), also more individual planets voted against the proposal (23:11)
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That made no sense.


Flaag, but the stronger planets voted for it...honestly. That is a swing of 3 votes, which is nothing at all.
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The results of the vote on the proposed Resolution 4902 of the League of Planets

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(A new Economic rule has been added. Forgot to put it in at first.)
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(7. Concerning back-ordering from missed turns. You cannot do it. If you missed a turn, tough, you can't build anything in it. However, you do get the resources from the missed turn to spend in your next one. )
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ooc: While your skimming through the rules could you explain how I'm supposed to transport RM? I can't see anything that does this in the unit equipment lists....
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You put RM into Cargo holds or a freighter. 1 CU = 1 RM
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

Well, here's my budget. Mozilla ate my 6000 word character post, so that will come along eventually. In the mean time, rudimentary stuff.

Government - socialist democracy


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Starting RM: 12,000 RM
Starting Population: 20,000 P
Starting $$$: $1,200,000
Free Tech: Advanced Computer Systems technology

Starting P employment
School - 100 P
Police Station - 600 P
Fire Station - 400 P
Hospital - 600 P
Basic Shipyard - 2,000 P
Barracks - 500 P

Industrial workers: 10,000 * IB 1 = 10,000 P
Private sector workers: 20% of 20,000 P = 4,000 P
Government workers: 4,200 P
Surplus/Unemployed: 1,800 P

Construction
(Industrial Base Upgrade) - [300 RM] * [4] * [1] = 1,200 RM

2*Small Colony Ship - 2,000 RM, $200,000, 2,000 P

2*'Queer' Class Corvette - 1,360 RM, $59,000, 50 P
2*'Fag' Class Corvette - 1,300 RM, 40 P, $62,000

1*College - 800 RM, $80,000, 750 P
2*School - 400 RM, $50,000, 200 P
1*Library - 200 RM, $40,000, 125 P

4*Heavy Infantry - 300 RM, $30,000, 400 P

(Exchanging RM for P) 4300 RM = 8,600 P

Ending P Employments
Population: 28,600 P

3 * School - 300 P
Police Station - 600 P
Fire Station - 400 P
Hospital - 600 P
Basic Shipyard - 2,000 P
Barracks - 500 P
College - 750 P
Library - 125 P

2*'Queer' Class Corvette - 50 P
2*'Fag' Class Corvette - 40 P

4*Heavy Infantry - 400 P
2*Colony Ship - 2,000 P

Industrial workers: 10,000 * IB 1.5 = 15,000 P
Private sector workers: 20% of 20,000 P = 5,680 P
Government workers: 7,765 P
Surplus/Unemployed: 155 P

Stockpiles
RM - 140 RM
Currency - $679,000

Research
Warfare: Double-Hulled Ships
Economic: Interstellar Trade Management
Scientific: Advanced Robotics
Civic: Research Facilities

Race Advantages
Leadership
Economic Growth
Improved Training
Research-minded
Hardy Populous

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Ship Designs

'Queer' Class Corvette (250 RM, 20 P, $20,000)
2 * 381mm Railgun (200 RM, $2,000)
2 * 40mm Minigun (80 RM, $1,500)
Small Cargo Hold (150 RM, $6,000, 5 P)
[Total: 680 RM, $29,500, 25 P]

'Fag' Class Corvette (250 RM, 20 P, $20,000)
2 * 381mm Railgun (200 RM, $2,000)
2 * 20mm Minigun (50 RM, $1,000)
Small P Transport Pod (150 RM, $8,000)
[Total: 650 RM, $31,000, 20 P]

'Homofag' Class Strike Corvette (300 RM, 20 P, $25,000)
4 * 381mm Railgun (800 RM, $8,000)
Small Transport Pod (150 RM, 10 P, $10,000)
[Total: 1,250 RM, 30 P, $43,000]

'Fudgepacker' Class Gunboat (600 RM, 100 P, $50,000)
6 * 381mm Railgun (600 RM, $6,000)
2 * Point Defense Laser (200 RM, $10,000)
1 Small Transport Pod (150 RM, 10 P, $10,000)
1 P Transport Pod (150 RM, $8,000)
[Total:1,700 RM, $94,000, 110 P]



plus also, general in-characterness of attacking 4902 in the league that got eaten, and extending an olive branch to PK that got eaten, and sending off colony ships to planets 9 and 7 that GOT EATEN
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Research for Turn 0

Nova Centauri
1 School
1 Library

=3 Research Points, no bonus.

Technologies Researched: Basic Biodomes, Superpowered Electromagnets

Sanchean
2 Schools
1 Library
1 College

(Research-minded lvl 1)

=7 Research Points, no bonus

Technologies Researched: Research Facilities, Advanced Robotics, Interstellar Trade Management

(NB: You don't have the right pre-requisites for Heavier Mass Drivers tech)

New Tokyo
2 Schools
1 Library
1 College

(Research-minded lvl 1, Improved Education lvl 1)

=7 Research Points, no bonus

Technologies Researched: Double-Hulled Ships, Advanced Computer Systems, Basic Biodomes

(NB: You appear to be attempting to research Interstellar Trade Management, which you already have)

Teian Point
1 School

=1 Research Point, your educational system is appalling. Invest in it soon or you'll face the consequences in a few years.

Technologies Researched: Basic Biodomes

Elyssium
1 School

=1 Research Point, your educational system is appalling. Invest in it soon or you'll face the consequences in a few years.

Technologies Researched: Basic Biodomes

Cienelle
2 Schools
2 Libraries
1 College

=9 Research Points. All areas of your populace are benefitting from the excellent state library system present. You recieve a bonus of 2 Research Points.

Technologies Researched: Interstellar Trade Management, Advanced Robotics, Research Facilities, Superpowered Electromagnets, Heavier Mass Drivers

(Note: You had more RP than you needed for the techs you specified, and since you went for Heavier Mass Drivers when you didn't have the right pre-requisite - Superpowered Electromagnets - I put the spare two into that)

Freiland
1 School
2 Libraries
1 College

=8 Research Points. Educational administrators comment that over-rapid population growth has left the planet with insufficient educational infrastructue. They report that more Schools are needed in particular, as currently young children aren't getting a good enough education/

Technologies Researched: Reinforced Hull Armour, Basic Biodomes, Advanced Robotics, Research Facilities.

(Note: Didn't have enough RP for Double-Hulled Ships)

Stygis
1 School

=1 Research Point, your educational system is appalling. Invest in it soon or you'll face the consequences in a few years.

Technologies Researched: Basic Biodomes

Ios
1 School
1 Library

=3 Research Points. Educational administrators report that funding for the educational system is inadequate and urgently request more facilities.

Technologies Researched: Basic 0-G Missile Weaponry, Basic Biodomes

New Roma
1 School
2 Libraries
1 College

(Theocratic govt, research penalty; Improved Education lvl 2)

=10 Research Points. State-owned libraries have turned out to be a massive success, with the populace readily embracing the variety of books (approved by the Church for circulation) on offer. You recieve 3 bonus Research Poinnts (included in total).

Technologies Researched: Religious Facilities, Basic Biodomes, Advanced Sensor Waves, Basic Planetary Defense, Interstellar Trade Management.

(Excess RP, spent it on planetary defense tech and pre-requesities)

Sulphos
1 School
1 Library

(Despotic govt, slight research penalty)

=3 Research Points. Although none of them dare say it, it is clearly evident that the majority of educational administrators believe the education system is severely underfunded.

Tau Ceti Prime
1 School
1 Library
1 College

(Research-minded lvl 1)

=6 Research Points, no bonus. The Education Division of the Corporation reports that although the current level of funding is adequate, any further population growth will render it inadequate. They request more funding.

Technologies Researched: Trade Ships, Advanced Computer Systems, Advanced Robotics.

(Note: Excess RP, I spent it on science techs)

Tau Ceti Septus
3 Schools
1 College
1 Library

(Research-minded lvl 1)

=8 Research Points, no bonus. The Education Secretary reports that the current school facilities are adequate, but that they could achieve more with further investment.

Technologies Researched: Interstellar Trade Management, Advanced Robotics, Research Facilities, Basic Biodomes.

(Note: 1 RP spare, not enough for Double-Hulled Ships, so I spent it on Basic Biodomes)
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*ahem* Science ship is listed as adding 2 RP ND.

Advanced Computer Systems - 2 RP
Double-Hulled Ships - 3 RP
Basic Biodomes - 1 RP
Which is only 6 RP/7, so I had one excess by your calcs, but because the rules clearly state in the Research section, part 3, that, and I quote:
“3. A Science vessel contributes 2 RP in itself (no bonus), and has a chance of earning you bonus technologies by observing new things in the galaxy (send it travelling a lot).”
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Fine, you and Bakan each get the additional 2 RP as specified.

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You also get Interstellar Passenger Industry and Trade Ships.

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You get Trade Ships as well. 1 RP left over.
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With my 1 point remaining I research Basic Biodomes.
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Lakhim, heres the math.

6 Planet System
Planet 1: Sanchean 2000
Planet 2: Medium Ocean World 900
Planet 3: Medium Jungle World 1350
Planet 4: New Tokyo 800 RM
Planet 5: Huge Swamp World 1500
Planet 6: Small Ice World 600
Sanchean base ore claims 3,500
NT base ore claims 3,650
Difference: 150 in favor of NT.

However, your getting industrial upgrades at a 20% discount, and this is the closes division yet. Yours comes out as:
Sanchean base ore Claims 3950
NT base ore claims 3200 Butting you at a level almost 4x the one of my proposal over you, and I don’t have cheaper IB upgrades.

So, that’s why I propose the first one. Its fair, it keeps us off each others toes, and it will hold us until I have the forces to escort my science ship to the nebula and pierce it, which you’ll benefit from too.
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ooc: Futter you ND

Fix the error here:
Superpowered Electromagnets - 2 RP
Engineers have refined the design and manufacture of electromagnets, allowing far more powerful versions to be operated with far less power than before. The developement of these new electromagnets gives no advantage in itself, but it does have applications in other fields.
Gives: (nothing)
Requires: (nothing)
Should give mass drivers and fusion drives

and mind updating the gov types to include communism/socialism and technocracy?

SANCHEAN: Desert World [RM:500, P: 3,000], Large [planet size: 4], 2 moons
Government: Communist (A-L Scale 4)

Turn 0 (still)
RM: 800
RM production: 3000 rm (500*4*1.5)
$: 737,000
Taxation Rate: 2
$ production: (Crazy)
P: 27,000
P growth: 3,000
P in use: 15,000 (1*10,000) IB, 5,400 F, 6575 B

Buildings:
2x School (-200p)
Police Station (-600p)
Fire Station (-400p)
Hospital (-600p)
Shipyard (-2000p)
Barracks (-500p)
Library (-125p)
College (-750p)

Military:
1st Transport Division
-2x Transport Gunboats
-Transport (Civilian) Corvette
-Transport (Military) Corvette
--2x Construction Teams (-80p)

Sanchean Defensive Army
-8x Heavy Infantry (-800p)

Research
In Progress: (Priority)
Warfare - Double-Hulled Ships (2)
Economic - Trading Ships (3)
Science - Superpowered Electromagnets (4)
Civics - Technocratic Government (1)

Completed:
Warfare - None
Economic - Interstellar Trade Management
Science - Advanced Computer Systems, Advanced Robotics
Civics - Research Facilities

Unit Designs:
Transport (Military) Corvette (-400RM, -30P, -$30,000)
- Small Transport Pod

Transport (Civilian) Corvette (-400RM, -20P, -$28,000)
- P Transport Pod
[Non Combat]

Transport Gunboat (-2480RM, -220P, -$160,000)
- 2x Small Cargo Pods
- 2x 40mm Minigun
- 3x 381mm Railgun
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Okay, do-able, provided I get first dibs on the planets outside of the nebula. What ships do you need to escort, our governments may be able to work something out.
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2*'Queer' Class Corvette - 50 P
2*'Fag' Class Corvette - 40 P

Err...
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Lakhim. Look one post up :P
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Oh. To slow on the draw I see. Well, We can divide the planets outside the nebula up evenly or what not. Doesn't matter. Once we pierce it were going ot be in virgin terratory, and they'll be plenty for all. Now, as far as the escroting, I should be able to get it done this turn with my own ships anyway, so no worries ,but I will pledge to share the nav data with you, in the interests of stability in the system.
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Yeah blah blah blah. I just want first picks

I'm giving you a good deal by letting you come up to par with RM, but I don't feel like fighting, at least not in this thread, more of the technocratic planet. Those are fun.
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Teian Point, Planetry Administration Office...

TV: "...and more news on the contriversal resolution 4902 as it was announced today that the proposed piracy protection act failed to pass by the league senate 23 votes to 19, a bare margin result that isn't much of a surprise after the heated scenes witnessed over it's introduction."

*click*

Intercom: "Sir, Mr Anderson is here to see you."

"Send him in."

*Door opens and the representive of Teian Point in the league senate walks in with a smirk on his face, Hewitt rises from behind his solid oak desk to shake the mans hand.*

"Good to see you again Jake, some refreshment?" *Hewitt gestures towards the small bar cabinet.*

"A gin, thanks sir."

*Hewitt pours a couple of drinks for Jake and himself before sitting back down in his leather comfy chair.*

"So... is everything set for phase two of our little plan?"

"Indeed sir. Things couldn't have gone better, what with resolution 4902 things could not have been easier."

"Good, good..." *Hewitt downs his gin in one solid gulp.* "You have the envoy picked out?"

"Everything is set sir."

"Well in that case there's no need me keeping you here then Mr Chief Diplomat" *wink* *wink*

"Yes sir." *Down his drink* "Thank you sir, you won't regret this I'm sure."

*Hewitt smiles thinnly.* "I'm sure I won't..."

Karlak System...

*Almost unnoticable amongst the regular space traffic several small vessels exit the system in various directions intent on completing their diplomatic missions.*

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Orders

Send envoys to the following planets,

Frontier 1, Frontier System, Northeastern Fringe
Federal Republic of Altan, Altan System, Northeastern Fringe
Baraki Republic, Barak System, Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume
Kingdom of Ios, High Reach System, Northern Fringe
Republic of Freiland, Sestelle System, Northern Border
Republic of Cienelle, Sestelle System, Northern Border
Empire of Sulphos, South Reach System, Southern Fringe
Mgana, Mgana Outpost System, Southern Fringe
Republic of New Tokyo, Eastern Cloud System, Eastern Cloud Nebula Volume
Papal States of New Roma, Lonestar System, Northwestern Border
Kingdom of Neuilly, Neuilly System, Northern Fringe
Federal Republic of New Berlin, New Berlin System, Northern Fringe
United Republic of New Boston, New Massachusets System, Northern Fringe
Sarakesh, West Frontier System, Northwestern Fringe
Northwest Outpost, Northwest Outpost System, Northwestern Fringe
Republic of Talamak, Far West System, Southeastern Fringe
New London, Western Hub System, Western Fringe
Republic of New Earth, Cook System, Southern Fringe

With a message as follows,
"In light of the recent appaling number of support for the atrocious resolution 4902 and it's heinously blatent restriction on the rights of our worlds, the adminstration of Teian Point invites you to join in a meeting seperate of the league and it's inner sphere cronies.

The main reason for this meeting is simple. Teian Point has lost faith in the league and it's ability to function as a stable intersteller government. The league has failed to act on the recent issues involving piracy since it is not a problem to inner sphere worlds and resolution 4902 was only narrowly blocked successfully; next time we may not be so lucky.

As such we, the administration of Teian Point, hope that you will accept our invitiation as we wish to hear your views independant of league interference on the plausiblity of the application of a Galactic Fringe World Committee. The committee will act independant of the league as well as provide a stronger voice in the senate that will be actually heard amongst the sinister whispering of the inner sphere.

The committee will also deal with issues in regard to fringe worlds such as piracy and will deal with them swiftly unlike the centrilised league who continually refuses to take our interests to heart.

We hope to see you soon,

Signed,

The Secertary of State, Senator Jake Anderson and Planetry Administrator, President Paul N Hewitt"
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Income for Turn 1

Sanchean:
Tax Income: $56,160
Trade Income: $5,511
Total Income: $57,724

New Tokyo:
Tax Income: $47,380
Trade Income: $12,391
Total Income: $67,721

Elyssium:
Tax Income: $77,250
Trade Income: $103,680
Total Income: $182,739

Teian Point:
Tax Income: $103,725
Trade Income: $103,680
Total Income: $230,427

Ios:
Tax Income: $78,829
Trade Income: $6075
Total Income: $85,754

Stygis:
Tax Income: $55,200
Trade Income: $6075
Total Income: $61,888

Freiland:
Tax Income: $93,090
Trade Income: $116,640
Total Income: $207,213

Cienelle:
Tax Income: $71,804
Trade Income: $116,640
Total Income: $207,760

New Roma:
Tax Income: $67,200
Trade Income: $19,440
Total Income: $85,600

Tau Ceti Prime:
Tax Income: $78,829
Trade Income: $26,774
Total Income: $126,303

Sulphos:
Tax Income: $63,624
Trade Income: $540
Total Income: $76,740

Nova Centuari:
Tax Income: $99,840
Trade Income: $19,440
Total Income: $109,499

Tau Ceti Ceptus:
Tax Income: $63,600
Trade Income: $12,960
Total Income: $79,622



Think thats everyone.

(P.S. Will everyone please make their budget how I made mine (See page 1). List all completed researches as well. Make things a lot easier for me etc.)
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Umm.. Sancheans total income is off by a lot, and how come with my trade docks, I only made a measly 1k more than sanchean, which doesn't have them?

53,575 should be mine

61,671 should be sancheans, if you go by the numbers givin. Or is the Total income different and take into account other things like the docks, makign it hire than the trade and tax combined, or what?
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A lot of them are off (Teian Point, New Roma I think) if that is all...
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Not to mention why are the core worlds geting much higher tax income when we all started with comparable population and all have comparable employment levels?
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And as for the trade routes I'd say a lot of it has got to do with location - you and KoL are right out there on the fringe so trade will be less.

Karlak might be a bit out on the fringe as well, but we are the cross roads for five different trade routes not to mention one of the major trading systems is not far away.
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We havea leauge patrolled rout and 2 others going through. I'm not worried about the trade, just the tax, but it might be they all have high tax rates, *shrugs* Mainly its just that theres little difference in me and lakhims trade income. Oh well. They'll have to come to us to reach anything that goes beyond the nebula now.
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Turn 1

Planet Name: Teian Point
Planet Type: Rock World
Planet Size: Tiny (1)
Planet Goverment: Democratic Republic

Population: 31,568
Population Rate 3,000
Population in Industry: 15,000 (+5,000)
Population in Private Sector: 6,314 (20%)
Population in Goverment Work: 3,935
Unemployed Population: 594

Base Income: 800RM
Planet Size Factor: 1
Industrial Base: 1.5
Total RM Income: 1,200RM
Industry Upgrade: +400RM

Industry Base Upgrade Cost
(800*1*2) / 5 = 1600/5 = 320 * 90% = 298
Total = 298RM

Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: $103,680
Tax Income: $103,725
Total Income: $230,427

Buildings:

Colony Hub
School - 100P
Hospital - 600P
Fire Station - 400P
Police Station - 600P
Barracks - 500P
Basic Shipyard - 2000P

Under Construction
1 - Small Park - 10P
1 Park - 50P
1 Schools - 100P
2 Libraries - 250P

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Planet Name: Arrakis () (KARLAK I)
Planet Type: Desert
Planet Size: Large (4)
Planet Goverment: Colony

Population: 1,000
Population Rate 3,000
Population in Industry: 0
Population in Private Sector: 1,000 (100%)
Population in Goverment Work: 0
Unemployed Population: 0

Base Income: 0RM
Planet Size Factor: 4
Industrial Base: 0
Total RM Income: 0RM

Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: N/A
Tax Income: N/A
Total Income: N/A

Buildings:

Colony Hub

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Planet Name: Sancturay (KARLAK II)
Planet Type: Mars World
Planet Size: Medium (3)
Planet Goverment: Colony

Population: 1,000
Population Rate 2,000
Population in Industry: 0
Population in Private Sector: 1,000 (100%)
Population in Goverment Work: 0
Unemployed Population: 0

Base Income: 0RM
Planet Size Factor: 3
Industrial Base: 0
Total RM Income: 0RM

Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: N/A
Tax Income: N/A
Total Income: N/A

Buildings:

Colony Hub

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Planet Name: Solaris (KARLAK IX)
Planet Type: Jungle World
Planet Size: Large (4)
Planet Goverment: Colony

Population: 1,000
Population Rate 4,500
Population in Industry: 0
Population in Private Sector: 1,000 (100%)
Population in Goverment Work: 0
Unemployed Population: 0

Base Income: 0RM
Planet Size Factor: 4
Industrial Base: 0
Total RM Income: 0RM

Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: N/A
Tax Income: N/A
Total Income: N/A

Buildings:

Colony Hub

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Planet Name: Aquarius (KARLAK X)
Planet Type: Ocean World
Planet Size: Small (2)
Planet Goverment: Colony

Population: 1,000
Population Rate 5,500
Population in Industry: 0
Population in Private Sector: 1,000 (100%)
Population in Goverment Work: 0
Unemployed Population: 0

Base Income: 0RM
Planet Size Factor: 2
Industrial Base: 0
Total RM Income: 0RM


Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: N/A
Tax Income: N/A
Total Income: N/A

Buildings:

Colony Hub

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Planet Name: Oceania (KARLAK XI)
Planet Type: Ocean World
Planet Size: Tiny (1)
Planet Goverment: Colony

Population: 1,000
Population Rate 5,500
Population in Industry: 0
Population in Private Sector: 1,000 (100%)
Population in Goverment Work: 0
Unemployed Population: 0

Base Income: 0RM
Planet Size Factor: 1
Industrial Base: 0
Total RM Income: 0RM

Tax Rate: 3
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 4
Size of Linked Systems: 2/2/2/2

Trade Income: N/A
Tax Income: N/A
Total Income: N/A

Buildings:

Colony Hub

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Units:

None

Procurement: (1,198RM, $167,000, 5,410P)

Teian Point
Industry Upgrade - (298RM, 5,000P)
1 Small Park - (100RM, $20,000, 10P)
1 Park - (200RM, $42,000, 50P)
1 School - (200RM, $25,000, 100P)
2 Libraries - (400RM, $80,000, 250P)

Research

Researching:

Warfare - Nothing
Economics - Interstellar Trade Management, Trading Ships, Interstellar Passenger Industry, Interstellar Liner Industry
Science - Nothing
Civics - Nothing

Completed

Warfare - Double Hulled Ships,
Economics -
Science -
Civics - Basic Biodomes

Race Advantages
Industry - 2
Economic Growth - 1
Commodities - 1

Stockpiles:
RM: 2
$$$: $753,427

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Orders
- All colonists on all of the five new colonies are to commence a study of the surrounding area for any potential substance that would make a useful commodity.

- Envoy sent to Elyssium,

"First off the representive of Teian Point would like to appologise for if any offense was taken in the recent league biannual meeting. Politics is a dirty profession and unfortunately with all the mud slinging one tends to get a pie in the face.

We would also like to inform the people of Elyssium that the inital colonisation efforts in the Karlak system by Teian Point is over. Although we are not happy with the league territorial commissions decision to deny us of the two most resource-rich worlds in the system, five colonies is the most we can support for the time being and as such we will not be making any more territorial claims for a number of years. So you do not need worry about being 'hemmed in' as your representive put it. Teian Point will not interfere with any Elyssium claims in the Karlak system in future.

As a token of our goodwill, the people of Teian Point would like to invite the representives of Elyssium to our up coming meeting of fringe world delegates. The league-independant discussion will revolve around the implementation of a fringe world committee that will stand up for the unique rights of the fringe worlds. As our closest neighbour, despite your views on resolution 4902 we would be honored if you participate and added your views.

Plus we'll be serving free food and drink during the proceedings.

Signed,

The Secertary of State, Senator Jake Anderson and Planetry Administrator, President Paul N Hewitt"



- Envoy sent to,

Democratic Republic of Earth, Sol System, Inner Sphere
Republic of Tau Ceti Septus, Tau Ceti System, Inner Sphere
Republic of Tau Ceti Prime, Tau Ceti System, Inner Sphere
People's Republic of Nova Centauri, Alpha Centauri System, Inner Sphere

"Fellow symphisers of the fringe worlds hardships,

If it wasn't for your support in the recent vote on resolution 4902 the future of the fringe worlds would've been less certain than it is now. As such the people of Teian Point would like to express their thanks and appreciation for your wisdom and compassion in this decision.

However, despite your enlightened views Teian Point feels that you are part of the minority rather than the majority in the inner sphere. The fact that the resolution came so close to passing has us very concerned over the balance of power in the league and as such we are organising a meeting of fringe world delegates in the hope that something can be done about this. At the top of the agenda will be discussion over the implementation of a fringe world committee that will aim to act quickly on issues relating to the fringe without the need of the inner sphere. We realise that a few worlds in the inner sphere are truely concerned about our plight also and so we the people of Teian Point would like to extend you an invitation to this meeting. Even though you are not technically fringe worlds, we would like to here your views regardless as you represent a unique view point in this galaxy.

Unfortunately we doubt you'll be able to join the fringe world committee (since you do not live on the fringe obviously) but if you do show interest we'll see what we can do.

For whatever reason, we hope to see you there.

Signed,

The Secertary of State, Senator Jake Anderson and Planetry Administrator, President Paul N Hewitt"
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Re: Planet Wars: Redux

Planet Name: New Tokyo
Planet Type: Earth World
Planet Size: Small (2)
Planet Government: Corporate Republic

Population: 27,770
Population Rate: 6,000
Population in Industry: 10,000
Population in Private Sector: 5,554
Population in Government Work: 7,445
Unemployed Population: 4771

Base Income: 400
Planet Size Factor: 2
Industrial Base: 1.0
Total RM Income: 800
Industry Upgrade:

Tax Rate: 2
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 3
Size of Linked Systems: 1/2/1

Tax Income: $47,380
Trade Income: $12,391
Total Income: $67,721

Stockpiles:
82 RM
$133,721

Buildings:

Colony Hub
Basic Sensor Array – 60 P
2 Schools – 200 P
College – 750 P
Library – 125 P
Hospital – 600 P
Fire Station – 400 P
Police Station – 600 P
Barracks – 500 P
Basic Shipyard – 2000 P
Commercial Docks – 500 P

Units:
Infantry:
5 Light Infantry 500 P
4 Heavy Infantry 400 P
1 Military Engineers 100 P
3 Military Construction Teams 120 P

Ships:
1 Science Ship 250 P
1 C-1 Gun Corvettes 30 P
6 F-1 Space Fighter Squadrons 30 P

Bases:
3 Airbase Bases 90 P


Unit Class:
C-1 Gun Corvette
2 Point-Defense Lasers
2 381 mm Rail Guns
1 Small Transport Pod
800 RM, $42,000, 30 P

F-1 Space Fighter Squadron
5 40 mm Chain Guns
150 RM, $5,500, 5 P

Procurement:
1 Small Colony Ship
1,000 RM, $100,000, 1,000 P

2 Libraries
400 RM, $80,000, 250 P


Planet Name: Colony 1
Planet Type: Swamp World
Planet Size: Huge (5)
Planet Government: Corporate Republic

Population: 5,230
Population Rate: 4,000
Population in Industry:
Population in Private Sector: 1046
Population in Government Work: 230
Unemployed Population: 3954

Base Income: 300
Planet Size Factor: 5
Industrial Base: 0.0
Total RM Income: 0
Industry Upgrade:

Tax Rate: 2
System Size: 2
Number of Linked Systems: 3
Size of Linked Systems: 1/2/1

Stockpiles:
0 RM

Buildings:

Colony Hub

Units:
Infantry:
1 Heavy Infantry 100 P
1 Military Engineers 100 P

Ships:
1 C-1 Gun Corvettes 30 P


Research

Researching:

Warfare – Space Bombers
Economics - Interstellar Liner Industry
Science - Advanced Robotics
Civics - Research Facilities

Completed

Warfare – Double Hulled Ships
Economics - Interstellar Trade Management, Interstellar Passenger Industry, Trade Ships
Science - Advanced Computer Systems
Civics - Basic Biodomes

Race Advantages
Research Minded Level 1
Observers Level 1
Improved Education Level 1
Defense Contractors Level 1
Commodities Level 1

Orders:
Colony ship and C-1 corvette with 1 heavy infantry and one military construction team depart for Planet 3, a Medium Jungle World, from New Tokyo. Meanwhile, the C-1 from Colony 1 goes to New Tokyo, and picks up 1 light infantry and 1 military construction team and brings it back to Colony 1, while the science ship departs for the Medium Jungle World and surveys it, assuming its done surveying Colony 1. If not, it continues its survey for oddities, commodities, and irregularities.
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