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Unread 3 Sep 2013, 17:40   #1
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Round 53 Predictions

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I think ND and Ultores will be strong if they play as usualy.
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I don't think anyone in Ult has realised there's gonna be a new round, at least there hasn't been any activity in the chan since last round ended
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

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I don't think anyone in Ult has realised there's gonna be a new round, at least there hasn't been any activity in the chan since last round ended
I think most alliances are the same. All alliances seem to be emailing their previous members to wake them up.
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

the HCs will win at the level they agree between themselves, top gal, top planet... the peons will be screwed.
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the HCs will win at the level they agree between themselves, top gal, top planet... the peons will be screwed.
That might be the case if there is no alliance going for tag win.
And it seems like it will be same old shit with smaller tags, and more greedy leaders, PA crew needs to get their head out of their a** and make the tag limits higher if they dont want to kill the game.
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That might be the case if there is no alliance going for tag win.
And it seems like it will be same old shit with smaller tags, and more greedy leaders, PA crew needs to get their head out of their a** and make the tag limits higher if they dont want to kill the game.
yup, here we go again!
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the HCs will win at the level they agree between themselves, top gal, top planet... the peons will be screwed.
maybe the peons are more powerful than hc and can step up and be counted?

You know, there ARE some alliances out there that do actually put their members first.
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maybe the peons are more powerful than hc and can step up and be counted?

You know, there ARE some alliances out there that do actually put their members first.
I wouldnt want to be in such a alliance, id like to be in alliance where the HCs put the alliance first
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Hej Forest are you declaring war on us again this round, or shall we bring the war to you?
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

What alliances are even playing? There has literally been zero chatter for 4 weeks now :/

From the little i have heard and from the presumption that there is no new big tags

#1 Vikings
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

Seems like Vikings are running away with the lead, even though they just lost some ground to number #2 tonight.
Their defence, political knowledge, and stratical wit seems to out do everyone else.
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Unread 15 Sep 2013, 16:48   #15
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

I make this post every round, but people never seem to learn.

It's tick 212.
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I make this post every round, but people never seem to learn.

It's tick 212.
Yeah, but most round you can see wich allies got a chance to win by pt212, but this round it seems like vikings got no competition...?
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

No, you can't.
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This round is pretty much open for anyone to win. Keep in mind i did not sign up yet, the moment i do signup and decide what ally i join will decide what ally wins. Just like last round where i decided day 2 ND should win.
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Seems CT and fang have secret agreements already with innuendo as a backup. How long will they wait to start targetting Vikings, the differences right now are still small but what would be the perfect time?.

ND seems to be handicapped after last round where they had players with alot of experience in their ranks. They have been talking with Vikings already about a possible blockwar. Will HR step in when this happens?

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That can't be right, Cain. Butcher said Vikings were running away with it!
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

Vikings have put their plans in motion last night after having a meeting with ND (which i mentioned already). ND is fully aware CT might hit Vikings soon and are ready to join in on hitting CT.

Vikings will continue hitting galaxies with 3 CT planets in it, putting their main focus on covering the CT planets with the largest waves. This tactic will buy them some time claiming it's just galraiding. These extra CT roids will increase their value gap.

Vikings have put much thought in this.. however?!?!....
*camera zooming in on a face with a shocked expression*

.....they did not expect the possible course of action of fang/innu.

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Re: Round 53 Predictions

Dun dun dunnn!
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Latest rumour mill says FAnG is napped with everyone, and have a long term deal with Vikings.
Vikings still big contenders to take this one home.
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this just in:
Apprime merging with ROCK and napping CT/ND/Vikings and ptargetting HR for the rest of the round!
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Maybe you want to stick to facts instead of making things up Magnus. There is no need to talk about Apprime, although i realise sharing the plans your alliance has doesn't make you very happy. Just realise this is a game, there is no need to get upset.

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Re: Round 53 Predictions

My prediction is as follows:-

1) FAnG
2) Conspiracy
3) Vikings

The reason I placed FAnG at #1 is because they are out growing everyone rapidly, and whilst Vikings gets blocked, FAnG will sneak in and take the gold!

*edit this is purely my own personal opinion and is not an opinion in an official capacity

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Come on now clouds, nice attempt at distraction


Putting yourselves in 3rd is very modest, considering the quality of your members, Id still put money on you guys to win.
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Re: Round 53 Predictions

faNG guy saying Vikings will win. Vikings guy says fANg will win.

Everyone is surprised.
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Mz posting a smart arse comment.


I think the shock will last sometime...
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fang guy saying vikings will win
vikings guy saying fang will win

fang nap vikings
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my guess being, fang and vikings steadily outgrow everyone, then when ct/nd have no choice but to hit one of them, they will cry 'block' and get app and co in on there side
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my guess being, fang and vikings steadily outgrow everyone, then when ct/nd have no choice but to hit one of them, they will cry 'block' and get app and co in on there side
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Its pretty obvious that Vikings and FAnG have no intention of hitting each other.
They both have forts, and they are all untouched.
Id put my money on CT or ND actualy, cus they atleast have some guts doing something
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Its pretty obvious that Vikings and FAnG have no intention of hitting each other.
They both have forts, and they are all untouched.
Id put my money on CT or ND actualy, cus they atleast have some guts doing something
And that is why you are poor. Neither ND or CT could hold roids in war against Vikings or FANG cos the defence culture is not there. Especially in CT.

NOt saying they wont 'have a go' just saying they wont win.

This round will end up the same as every other round in recent memory. Two strongest alliances are napped. Outgrow the rest, scoop xp and roids off CT/ND and then probably have a little battle in the last 2 weeks which wont really change anything.

Although i am Vikings through and through looking at the 2 memberlists i have to say in a straight out roid race FaNG will win, they are just slightly more offensively active and both alliances have the same defence level.
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And that is why you are poor. Neither ND or CT could hold roids in war against Vikings or FANG cos the defence culture is not there. Especially in CT.

NOt saying they wont 'have a go' just saying they wont win.

This round will end up the same as every other round in recent memory. Two strongest alliances are napped. Outgrow the rest, scoop xp and roids off CT/ND and then probably have a little battle in the last 2 weeks which wont really change anything.

Although i am Vikings through and through looking at the 2 memberlists i have to say in a straight out roid race FaNG will win, they are just slightly more offensively active and both alliances have the same defence level.
Looking at recent rounds you cannot win without going to war, if Vikings and FAnG want to fence out the round im pretty sure they will pay the cost of it. Nobody like fencesitters.
I just hope the other alliances will take actions before its too late.
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Why is this round just between FAnG and Vikings by the way? FAnG are 5th....

ND? CT? HR? (have lots of ults this round)

Apprime? They seem to be adding lots of members recently and aren't far from a full tag...

Id say its still very open...not to forget its not even half way!
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Why is this round just between FAnG and Vikings by the way? FAnG are 5th....

ND? CT? HR? (have lots of ults this round)

Apprime? They seem to be adding lots of members recently and aren't far from a full tag...

Id say its still very open...not to forget its not even half way!
Not if Vikings/FAnG decide to stagnate the round...
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How is that a decision either FAnG or Vikings can make?


Im guessing that you are suggesting that the 5th place alliance forms a block and the top alliance forms a block and we batter each other?

I would love to know why this round is only between the currently 5th and 1st place alliances too!
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How is that a decision either FAnG or Vikings can make?


Im guessing that you are suggesting that the 5th place alliance forms a block and the top alliance forms a block and we batter each other?

I would love to know why this round is only between the currently 5th and 1st place alliances too!
Cus FAnG/Vikings has Allied the Whole univers, and on paper atm they look the strongest With their roid tally
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Cus FAnG/Vikings has Allied the Whole univers, and on paper atm they look the strongest With their roid tally
You really need to find a new hobby, rather than obsessing over FAnG...quite sad.

You are pretty good at making up stories though, perhaps write one down? A book about PA maybe, memoirs of b-butcher 'Through the eyes of a moron'?



BUT seriously though, I don't know why I give into the temptation to respond to these threads...
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You really need to find a new hobby, rather than obsessing over FAnG...quite sad.

You are pretty good at making up stories though, perhaps write one down? A book about PA maybe, memoirs of b-butcher 'Through the eyes of a moron'?



BUT seriously though, I don't know why I give into the temptation to respond to these threads...
I just go by what people say, and what i see for myself.
If it wernt FAnG/Vikings, it could aswell be App/Ult, its nothing special towards anyone
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Well you shouldn't listen to gossip
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Well i dont, but then again, when i look at wich targets FAnG goes for, and wich Vikings goes for, its pretty obvious that they are avoiding each other.
Tonight there is no FAnG in the gal Vikings is attacking, and FAnG have the biggest average atm.
Why would they not go for the fatest targets?
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Well i dont, but then again, when i look at wich targets FAnG goes for, and wich Vikings goes for, its pretty obvious that they are avoiding each other.
Tonight there is no FAnG in the gal Vikings is attacking, and FAnG have the biggest average atm.
Why would they not go for the fatest targets?
Because sensible attacking from top alliances looks at getting constant roid gain for the least amount of fleets possible. A Vikings BC will know that realistically FANG targets will be the hardest to land on because of their def culture. Same goes for FANG vs Vikings. What would be the point at this early time in the game to stunt roid growth just for appease people in other alliances?

The better targets which will yeild more lands for similar XP (because realistically no one is that far apart in score atm) would be the likes of HR/CT/ND/Spore/Innuendo - alliances that do not defend on the same level as Vikings and FANG and will get the alliances easy and cheap roids. Its just common sense, because it doesnt fit into what you want from the round doesnt make it wrong. Make your alliance better and able to compete with these two and then you can attack them and actually influence politics. Dont sit on here and whine that people arent doing what you want, get better at the game and challenge them. Then when you are at that level and you attack them and have to recall lots of attacks on them cos they are covered whilst they carry on doing what they do now and pull away from you in score/roids/value then you will see why what you are saying is stupid
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Because sensible attacking from top alliances looks at getting constant roid gain for the least amount of fleets possible. A Vikings BC will know that realistically FANG targets will be the hardest to land on because of their def culture. Same goes for FANG vs Vikings. What would be the point at this early time in the game to stunt roid growth just for appease people in other alliances?

The better targets which will yeild more lands for similar XP (because realistically no one is that far apart in score atm) would be the likes of HR/CT/ND/Spore/Innuendo - alliances that do not defend on the same level as Vikings and FANG and will get the alliances easy and cheap roids. Its just common sense, because it doesnt fit into what you want from the round doesnt make it wrong. Make your alliance better and able to compete with these two and then you can attack them and actually influence politics. Dont sit on here and whine that people arent doing what you want, get better at the game and challenge them. Then when you are at that level and you attack them and have to recall lots of attacks on them cos they are covered whilst they carry on doing what they do now and pull away from you in score/roids/value then you will see why what you are saying is stupid
Vikings have been sending 27 fleets average each member, having 55% of the attack fleets recalling.
Clearly you cant realy compare it to the best alliance over the last round, ND, wich had 52 def fleets average each member, and an average of 63% attack fleets recalling.
Numbers dont lie, ND was much better than vikings on defence, even though they actualy had incommings wich Vikings barely had all last round.
FAnG has not had any succses with trying to roid "weaker" targets in the recent history, they tried to both to ODDR and ROCK, and both times they got hit back and were taken out of the race for #1.
I dont think this is a important discussion, most alliances seem to want to trail black hole gals instead of going for those targets thats logical to attack.
Maybe it is due to the low alliance limits, or only down to how the exile system work, i dont know.
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Vikings have been sending 27 fleets average each member, having 55% of the attack fleets recalling.
Clearly you cant realy compare it to the best alliance over the last round, ND, wich had 52 def fleets average each member, and an average of 63% attack fleets recalling.
Numbers dont lie, ND was much better than vikings on defence, even though they actualy had incommings wich Vikings barely had all last round.
FAnG has not had any succses with trying to roid "weaker" targets in the recent history, they tried to both to ODDR and ROCK, and both times they got hit back and were taken out of the race for #1.
I dont think this is a important discussion, most alliances seem to want to trail black hole gals instead of going for those targets thats logical to attack.
Maybe it is due to the low alliance limits, or only down to how the exile system work, i dont know.
a) where are you getting your facts and figures from for this round? Im intrested to know.

b) ND had 52 per member after 1176 ticks, Vikings have 27 after 400 yeah? So Vikings are halfway there in a third of the time?

c) Viking have a 55% recall rate from the period of the round where people dont nessecarily have all the gate research needed and therefore cant defend all the incommings yeah?

d) ND only managed to improve by 8% in a following 800 ticks last round?


Can you give specific examples and info of these Fang attempts please? The most recent Fang attacks on ROCK that i know towards the end of last round and they raped ROCK blind.

As has been said on numerous occasions by Fang HC and others on here yet you have neglected to read or take into your brain, FANG is a more defensive alliance. It has never had attack power, it prefers to keep what it has. That is why people dont attack FANG because its a pain to get roids off them, this is getting more what people are thinking of Vikings too. You can nearly 90% guarantee now that on a normal gal raid that the Viking planets will be covered up completely. I also notice that none of your awesome alliances mentioned have gone after Vikings or Fang 1v1, i know this rarely happens anymore but still every round you and your chums are needing to gather a force of 5+ alliances to even start getting roids off these two, its sad.

Get better at PA, stop being bitter...

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Vikings have been sending 27 fleets average each member, having 55% of the attack fleets recalling.
Clearly you cant realy compare it to the best alliance over the last round, ND, wich had 52 def fleets average each member, and an average of 63% attack fleets recalling.
Numbers dont lie, ND was much better than vikings on defence, even though they actualy had incommings wich Vikings barely had all last round.
FAnG has not had any succses with trying to roid "weaker" targets in the recent history, they tried to both to ODDR and ROCK, and both times they got hit back and were taken out of the race for #1.
I dont think this is a important discussion, most alliances seem to want to trail black hole gals instead of going for those targets thats logical to attack.
Maybe it is due to the low alliance limits, or only down to how the exile system work, i dont know.
So you are comparing numbers of a winning alliance and an alliance that never played a real role in the round? At least have the guts to compare the stats from round we actually full on played. You'll quickly see that we achieve a recall rate of over 66% with just 40 deffleets in the rounds that matter. But hey, don't look at numbers that don't match your hypotheses.
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So you are comparing numbers of a winning alliance and an alliance that never played a real role in the round? At least have the guts to compare the stats from round we actually full on played. You'll quickly see that we achieve a recall rate of over 66% with just 40 deffleets in the rounds that matter. But hey, don't look at numbers that don't match your hypotheses.
Vikings only have one real round, wich one am i suppose to compare u with?
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a) where are you getting your facts and figures from for this round? Im intrested to know.

b) ND had 52 per member after 1176 ticks, Vikings have 27 after 400 yeah? So Vikings are halfway there in a third of the time?

c) Viking have a 55% recall rate from the period of the round where people dont nessecarily have all the gate research needed and therefore cant defend all the incommings yeah?

d) ND only managed to improve by 8% in a following 800 ticks last round?


Can you give specific examples and info of these Fang attempts please? The most recent Fang attacks on ROCK that i know towards the end of last round and they raped ROCK blind.

As has been said on numerous occasions by Fang HC and others on here yet you have neglected to read or take into your brain, FANG is a more defensive alliance. It has never had attack power, it prefers to keep what it has. That is why people dont attack FANG because its a pain to get roids off them, this is getting more what people are thinking of Vikings too. You can nearly 90% guarantee now that on a normal gal raid that the Viking planets will be covered up completely. I also notice that none of your awesome alliances mentioned have gone after Vikings or Fang 1v1, i know this rarely happens anymore but still every round you and your chums are needing to gather a force of 5+ alliances to even start getting roids off these two, its sad.

Get better at PA, stop being bitter...
FAnG attack ROCK r50, though it would be kind of bold claiming that it was ROCK alone was the factor that lead to FAnG loosing, but id still claim it was the leading factor.

Good allies would not claim targets based on what allies they are in, and they would send bigger team ups on those they think would need it. If the rumours is true that vik are zik/xan based they have no anti FR def, and would be the easiest targets
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