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Unread 8 Jun 2010, 20:22   #1
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I just wanted to say 'Hello', just in case anyone here still remembers our pathetic forum posts back on round 7.

How many do still play?
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Re: Proud to be FAnG!

Hey LEFF, I've been warming up the croud for you the past few weeks
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Hey LEFF <3
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He only gets online once every 3 years so don't expect a reply anytime soon
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Re: Proud to be FAnG!

Hi LEFF, all the crowd warming but only a 10second apearence in #fang :P
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Hi LEFF, all the crowd warming but only a 10second apearence in #fang :P
It's a shame isn't it. His activity is even more rare then good German beer is
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Re: Proud to be FAnG!

Kjeldoran wrote me something similar a few weeks ago... he just left out the n....

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Hey LEFF, welcome back, even if it was a very brief stay!
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Re: Proud to be FAnG!

A FAnG return would be awesome. Although quite how last time's attempt to return which failed before the round started could be topped is beyond me.
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A FAnG return would be awesome. Although quite how last time's attempt to return which failed before the round started could be topped is beyond me.
What round you talking about? Did someone try to revive FAnG after round 12/13?

I would agree that a return would be awesome, though rather unrealistic as the current remaining FAnG players are scattered around in several alliances including yours. So it wouldn't be "FAnG" anymore.

Then again, it'd be 1 more alliance to hate and flame and I'd again have a purpose on AD!!
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What round you talking about? Did someone try to revive FAnG after round 12/13?
For round 31.

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I didn't know about that. Who was running the alliance then and was it any representation of what FAnG used to be regarding members? Or did it never hit off (or failed before tickcount)?

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I just wanted to say 'Hello', just in case anyone here still remembers our pathetic forum posts back on round 7.

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"our" pathetic forum posts?

Only "your" pathetic forum posts!
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a fang return would be awesome. Although quite how last time's attempt to return which failed before the round started could be topped is beyond me.
it failed because nobody told me about it!
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it failed because nobody told me about it!
i doubt it had anyone involved from the old chain of command... most likely alch/irvine trying to restart angels.... because i remember them trying that then failing because both went away
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i doubt it had anyone involved from the old chain of command... most likely alch/irvine trying to restart angels.... because i remember them trying that then failing because both went away
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i doubt it had anyone involved from the old chain of command... most likely alch/irvine trying to restart angels.... because i remember them trying that then failing because both went away
Angels aren't the same as FAnG aye. Infact, the only command both alliance shared were Irvine and myself.
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it failed because nobody told me about it!
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Angels aren't the same as FAnG aye. Infact, the only command both alliance shared were Irvine and myself.
It was Irvine, then the faggot went MIA a week before tickstart and shit hit the fan

How do you think I got sucked back into this shitty game.
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It was Irvine, then the faggot went MIA a week before tickstart and shit hit the fan

How do you think I got sucked back into this shitty game.
Hehe, not the first time he pulled that on us. Though he still is the best DC I've ever had the pleasure working with. The guy didn't need any sleep for months!!
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Perhaps we are preparing to come back into the game aye ... who knows.
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Angels != FAnG though

And those are other Angels hehe.
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I know. And we're not.

We got a new website though. Not spamming the link, just in case you've been with us and our mass-mail did not reach you, check my sig ;-)


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Though he still is the best DC I've ever had the pleasure working with. The guy didn't need any sleep for months!!
Indeed.. not entirely certain how he always pulled it off, but he's one of the best DCs in the PAX era.
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Indeed.. not entirely certain how he always pulled it off, but he's one of the best DCs in the PAX era.
*pre-PAX. Irvine got his start once he took over after Carnis, rnd7 in FAnG.
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I didn't realize that.. I only played with him during the PAX times.

I was also attempting to avoid stepping on any pre-PAX toes since the quality of player and the level of commitment was substantially greater than in the PAX era.
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I didn't realize that.. I only played with him during the PAX times.

I was also attempting to avoid stepping on any pre-PAX toes since the quality of player and the level of commitment was substantially greater than in the PAX era.
Original FAnG DC's held their own in pre-pax terms as well
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Like when they got raped at the end of round 7 and effectively disbanded during round 8 and were a complete non-event in round 9? Surely an epic showing for the ages!
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Like when they got raped at the end of round 7 and effectively disbanded during round 8 and were a complete non-event in round 9? Surely an epic showing for the ages!
Rnd7 didn't get raped until we ran out of e, no fuel makes fighting rather hard, especially when you're outnumbered.

Rnd8 disband was after LEFF burnt out/some member(s) got hacked. This, imo, is the right place to end the story of FAnG, as later incarnations weren't really the same.

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Rnd7 didn't get raped until we ran out of e, no fuel makes fighting rather hard, especially when you're outnumbered.
Ah.. yes.. the days when Eonium was merely a fuel. Can we do a throwback War/Science speedgame or something?
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Like when they got raped at the end of round 7 and effectively disbanded during round 8 and were a complete non-event in round 9? Surely an epic showing for the ages!
....smells like Teen Spirit
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Rnd7 didn't get raped until we ran out of e, no fuel makes fighting rather hard, especially when you're outnumbered.
Getting raped is still getting raped.

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You mean you're not going to count the only version of FAnG which actually won a round?
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Nope. Imo the best version was the rnd7 group.
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Nope. Imo the best version was the rnd7 group.
That doesn't mean it's not the same alliance after that point though. You need a serious break in terms of HC/memberbase to justify that.
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That doesn't mean it's not the same alliance after that point though. You need a serious break in terms of HC/memberbase to justify that.
Iirc Rumad, Lockhead, LEFF and TU all quit more or less after rnd8. That's 4/6 original HC (TU quit after rnd7, Rumad became less active during rnd8 and afaik never returned to hc'ing proper after that round, LEFF burnt out a bit after rnd8 and quit PA completely, Lockhead took a part of the members after the rnd8 split and joined Eclipse etc.). Big enough for you m8? Oh, and Carnis being original main DC left during rnd7. And some worthless players like Bluearmy and whomever left after rnd8. The lack of much of the original nG members is also a large part of why it later reverted to the name Angels, in reference to Furious Angels, the other original alliance that merged into FAnG. Oh, and changing from a small elite alliance early rnd7 towards a larger and less exclusive alliance with Angels later on is also a significant break in the essence of what the alliance was!

Come on history-boy. You can do better than this! I wonder how many rnd7/8 FAnG'ers have been in Asc. I'm thinking 20-25%?
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Odd, your reaction is completely different from your pawiki logs. End of round 7 we had 2 major alliances (Virus and Legion) hatting us with no help from anyone in the block (Nor Fury, nor RaH). We managed to do decent damage control. They had 3 times the numbers so ... little we could have done.

Round 8 we disbanded due to internal crap, not because our DC's weren't good.
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Rnd7 didn't get raped until we ran out of e, no fuel makes fighting rather hard, especially when you're outnumbered.

Rnd8 disband was after LEFF burnt out/some member(s) got hacked. This, imo, is the right place to end the story of FAnG, as later incarnations weren't really the same.

Stop trolling Irish.
FAnG round 10 and 10.5 were good (be it we disbanded R10 but we gave Eclipse and Elysium one hell of a fight). After that, Angels took over
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Very true. Was the most fun round for me aswell. also the first time we got to play with the big boys (Fury, Legion, ...)
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Iirc Rumad, Lockhead, LEFF and TU all quit more or less after rnd8. That's 4/6 original HC (TU quit after rnd7, Rumad became less active during rnd8 and afaik never returned to hc'ing proper after that round, LEFF burnt out a bit after rnd8 and quit PA completely, Lockhead took a part of the members after the rnd8 split and joined Eclipse etc.). Big enough for you m8? Oh, and Carnis being original main DC left during rnd7. And some worthless players like Bluearmy and whomever left after rnd8. The lack of much of the original nG members is also a large part of why it later reverted to the name Angels, in reference to Furious Angels, the other original alliance that merged into FAnG. Oh, and changing from a small elite alliance early rnd7 towards a larger and less exclusive alliance with Angels later on is also a significant break in the essence of what the alliance was!

Come on history-boy. You can do better than this! I wonder how many rnd7/8 FAnG'ers have been in Asc. I'm thinking 20-25%?
Very well said. Also Irvine became HC after round 8 (or was it during?). So did Cray and Alch. Infact, I was the ONLY remaining HC who stayed in the team, all others left or got kicked or quit. So yeah, a rather significant change.

You are correct of the reason why we renamed to Angels. Mainly because we wanted a fresh start (as a BG first) and we had little to no affection with nG anymore (As Lockhead joined Eclipse and LEFF quit the game ... both created nG).
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Irvine was still just a dc rnd8 iirc, LEFF was the main HC that round.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Irvine became HC when FAnG reformed.

LEFF wasn't that active and present as you think he was, during round 8

I wouldn't call him the main HC that round. I think Lockhead was our most active HC back then, then Rumad and I. Hinch was just there for tech reasons, don't think he cared much about the game anymore at that stage
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Odd, your reaction is completely different from your pawiki logs. End of round 7 we had 2 major alliances (Virus and Legion) hatting us with no help from anyone in the block (Nor Fury, nor RaH). We managed to do decent damage control. They had 3 times the numbers so ... little we could have done.

Round 8 we disbanded due to internal crap, not because our DC's weren't good.
That's because I try to be as neutral as possible when writing that so you get as many facts across as possible while avoiding random retards coming along and ****ing it up. As I said above getting raped is getting raped. It's your fault if you get into that situation. And nobody cares if your DCs were good, the point is your alliance/HC had an emo stress-out and FAnG collapsed. Resounding success this is not.

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Iirc Rumad, Lockhead, LEFF and TU all quit more or less after rnd8. That's 4/6 original HC (TU quit after rnd7, Rumad became less active during rnd8 and afaik never returned to hc'ing proper after that round, LEFF burnt out a bit after rnd8 and quit PA completely, Lockhead took a part of the members after the rnd8 split and joined Eclipse etc.). Big enough for you m8?
Not even close. That's one who quit before the round, one who just wasn't that active anymore after it and 2 who left. For an actual split where you can justifiably say that it's not the same alliance anymore you basically need all the HC gone and actual arguments to ensue over whether or not it really is the same alliance anymore, see Wolfpack. You need a real break in continuity.

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Yeah, like 6 rounds later.

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Totally irrelevant. Round 28 Ascendancy was a very different alliance to the Round 16 version in "HC" (myself, game, golan versus rob, jester, bwtmc), memberbase (probably less than 25% remaining from that round) and essence (xp versus hardcore value play). It was still the same alliance though. It's called evolution*.



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