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Unread 9 Jun 2006, 16:10   #1
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Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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Dear ChubbyChecker,

Your account on Planetarion Forums has been locked because someone has tried to
log into the account with the wrong password more than 5 times. You will be able
to attempt to log in again in another 15 minutes.
I received this message at 21:49 last night. Now, I know it wasn't me that got locked out because I'm always signed in. So some fiendish rogue has been trying to log in to my account!

Anybody else received this e-mail? If so I suggest we get a lynch mob organised and go in search of this heinous person.
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Hm, I got one of those too.

Received: from stats.jolt.co.uk (...); Thu, 8 Jun 2006 12:36:18 -0700

The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address:
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Anybody else received this e-mail? If so I suggest we get a lynch mob organised and go in search of this heinous person.
Er, you go on ahead.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

Theres a person on this forum whos being a tit and appears to have found a way to access other peoples accounts for his own personal gains.

So far theres atleast 100 account if not more hes gained access to and probally others we dont know about.

For the time being I wont name and shame this person while JJ decided what we are doing about him
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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Originally Posted by wakey
Theres a person on this forum whos being a tit and appears to have found a way to access other peoples accounts for his own personal gains.

So far theres atleast 100 account if not more hes gained access to and probally others we dont know about.

For the time being I wont name and shame this person while JJ decided what we are doing about him
100 accounts? damn
they must either have very weak passwords or they are all connected to the person somehow and used them in other things.
OR, theres a huge hole in the pa forums security systems as nodrog has pointed out.

i hope at the very least the ip is blacklisted
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Unread 9 Jun 2006, 17:13   #5
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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For the time being I wont name and shame this person while JJ decided what we are doing about him
You should thank him/her for exposing what looks like a huge security hole.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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You should thank him/her for exposing what looks like a huge security hole.
I remember when you hacked my account (
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Buy him Pepsi and KFC until he turns himself in.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

No we shouldnt. People whom find what seem to be security holes and then report their findings should be thanked. The person in question had known about it for days and continued to use it to their advantage without informing anyone.

And you would be surpised with the names of those comprised, my won account is one of them and it includes a number of other mods, pateam and creators past and present as well as a number of high profile posters
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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And you would be surpised with the names of those comprised, my won account is one of them and it includes a number of other mods, pateam and creators past and present as well as a number of high profile posters
Shit, that sounds pretty bad. Did they do anything malicious with all that power at their disposal?
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

Seems to be mainly minor things from what we can tell
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have you alerted all those whos accounts were compromised?
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

I got that mail too But the IP in my case is a US one: 199.77.130.14
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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I got that mail too But the IP in my case is a US one: 199.77.130.14
then they are using proxies or zombies to do it in order to hide their identity
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

is anybody actually worried that their forum account might be compromised?

edit: rephrase

would anybody actually care if their forum account was compromised?
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

is there a connection between this and the "idimmu won the internet" thread?
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

Me too,I got 3 messages[failed attempts]
"The person trying to log into your account had the following IP
address: 61.242.102.18"
This could be a bot of some sort trying to hack accts and Password info..
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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would anybody actually care if their forum account was compromised?
Not really.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

i noticed earlier that there were many many people on who's online with the status "logging in"

MM said they knew about it and were doing something about it tho...
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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would anybody actually care if their forum account was compromised?
Mods' accounts, etc, are rather more powerful than your average users
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would anybody actually care if their forum account was compromised?
Depends what they did with it I guess. Deleting all my posts or posting lots of stupid comments* would be mildly annoying.



*More stupid than usual, obviously.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

it depends what the poster did. if they deleted people's posts or posted garbage, boo. if they did something less heinous, like giving themself mod powers or enabling attatchments or what have you, then it hurts noone and is undone easily and helps you patch a flaw, so i see no need for punishment
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

I got six of those emails, all within a minute of each other, obviously with different IPs.

Didn't think I was high-profile enough for this sort of thing. Presumably I'd know from my 'last visit' date if they got in? Or can that be easily changed?
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

Well I did not recieve any notifications of attempts to access my account but I can tell at least someone did yesterday.

I gave the following pos rep no comments or anything, and I always sign and comment my rep.
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Well I did not recieve any notifications of attempts to access my account but I can tell at least someone did yesterday.

I gave the following pos rep no comments or anything, and I always sign and comment my rep.
Ha! I have one of those too.

All this for some rep points? How pathetic.
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Reputation points are a serious business,

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Well I did not recieve any notifications of attempts to access my account but I can tell at least someone did yesterday.

I gave the following pos rep no comments or anything, and I always sign and comment my rep.
I just checked the rep I had given and I noticed I had given an unsigned rep-point to idimmu yesterday aswell and I can't remember giving it and I sure as hell see no reason why I would give rep to that post.

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So it's agreed, it was idimmu.

I'll get my pitch fork and burning torch...
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Well I did not recieve any notifications of attempts to access my account but I can tell at least someone did yesterday.

I gave the following pos rep no comments or anything, and I always sign and comment my rep.
Same thing happened to me, I hardly ever read GD and I never read that thread, yet I gave that exact same post a pos rep last night at a time I wasn't even online.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

I told JJ about a risk to do with this forum several weeks ago which he fixed.

'Currently' there are 2 high-risk vulnerabilities that exist on the 3.5.3 system that is in place here (really should upgrade to 3.5.4). One is a DoS exploit and the other is a way to steal your hash just by you clicking on a link that might appear to go to an image but you're secretly redirected to a hash stealer (works via cookies) and then passed onto the image - oblivious to what just went on.

That's why if you have Firefox, you should download the NoScript extension


As for idimmu, he recently hacked the arcade scores at another place - literally took over with scores of 999999999999999. heh. Either he is a genius or he's just using these exploits which I know appear in popular security forums (no I won't link them).
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

i dont think jammyjim *can* upgrade to 3.5.4 , its gotta be done by a jolt admin since they havent given jj the necessary access, iirc
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

My 2 cents:

1) JJ has nothing to do with forum upgrades. Jolt still require us to ask them to do even the most trivial things that can't be done through the Mod CP.

2) No damage has been done, in the great scheme of things this is largely unimportant; less drama please.

3) If you want to blame someone, blame Jolt for not keeping the software up to date.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

Through this drama I found out that my registered email address for the forums is one I haven't had access to it 3 years.

Ta idi.
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jolt are normally very good about doing essential forums upgrades for security reasons - in fact normally so good that they forget to tell us in advance...
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Through this drama I found out that my registered email address for the forums is one I haven't had access to for a year.

Ta idi.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

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it depends what the poster did. if they deleted people's posts or posted garbage, boo.
Reading someone's PMs probably fits under the heading of boo without being as obvious.
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I got that email as well i havent tried logging on apparently since 2004............now why in hell's name would anyone try and log in to my account? it's bleedin useless. i think i have made about 2 posts in my entire history of having an account on this forum.
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i think i have made about 2 posts in my entire history of having an account on this forum.
This is your first post actually
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idimmu did indeed, win the internet,
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"The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 131.155.71.110"

I got that last night, and i know for a fact it wasnt me because i wasnt even anywhere near a computer from the 3rd of June till today, i was away you see.

I wonder if ive given Idimmu pos rep too...

Edit - appears i havent, all is good with the world...lalalala
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the outcry there would be if this happened 2-3 years ago. the apathy nowadays.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

This is why I gave idimmu pos rep recently. It granted me immunity to idimmu's evil scheme. Well, at least the part where he wanted my account to rep him at least.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

When is the anonymous rep being taken away? JJ said on Thursday heh.

Anyway, idi should be unbanned. At least he's identified there is a flaw with the security here and Jolt should review it. But I doubt they will tbh. as they'll probably take a "v3.6 will fix the problem" stance.
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Re: Account on Planetarion Forums locked out

you might as well unban idi. whats the point in banning him?
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you might as well unban idi. whats the point in banning him?
Are you saying what's the point of banning him as otherwise he'll just use someone else's account?
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maybe he is RIGHT NOW
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He can bypass the ban though - through proxies, SSH connection etc.
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He can bypass the ban though - through proxies, SSH connection etc.
That doesn't make him able to use his idimmu account though.
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