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Unread 30 May 2006, 06:19   #1
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Winners of R17 (1up not included)

Looking at rankings page, #2 spot is wide open. does anyone have a take on who is going to grasp it? looking at it i dont fancy Omens chances. Insomnia seem to be growing quite rapidly and not sure but i think NewDawn just took a nasty hit.

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Looking at rankings page, #2 spot is wide open. does anyone have a take on who is going to grasp it? looking at it i dont fancy Omens chances. Insomnia seem to be growing quite rapidly and not sure but i think NewDawn just took a nasty hit.

Please keep slander to yourselves, it isnt wanted on this post.
Tbh Omen is the best alliance, this round, after 1up. Only reason ND is/was gaining on Omen is because Omen received a heavy beating from 1up.

I hope Insomnia finishes strong though.
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I agree with Kj


The real question is: what will ND do when Insomnia pass them?
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The real question is: what will ND do when Insomnia pass them?
lol, how speculative. Let's not draw any hasty conclusions, - and more importantly, lets not encourage NewDawn to mass-attack Insomnia :>
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lol, how speculative. Let's not draw any hasty conclusions, - and more importantly, lets not encourage NewDawn to mass-attack Insomnia :>
Yeah, god knows a bit of serious competition isn't what this round needs! Let's just roid 300 roid planets to victory!
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lol, how speculative. Let's not draw any hasty conclusions, - and more importantly, lets not encourage NewDawn to mass-attack Insomnia :>

that would be fun would it not
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Yeah, god knows a bit of serious competition isn't what this round needs! Let's just roid 300 roid planets to victory!
According to my gal status that seems to be a winning formula for Angels
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According to my gal status that seems to be a winning formula for Angels
I have 180 roids. This morning I received 16k zik fi incs from a planet three times my value. Of course I'm much too important to bother organising defence for someone with a planet as bad as mine. However a well-meaning gal mate, guessing co, sent some revs as defence. My attacker, presumably without bothering to unit scan my defender, recalls. Worst use of a fleet slot ever.
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- The funny self mocking + interactive reply: "Any tips on other 300 roids planets we could bash?"
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- The "this wasn't funny" reply: "stfu mazz, stop posting such crap"
- The funny & ashamed reply: "Damn, you caught us"

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The honest reply - "Christ knows where our members are sending their fleets these days."
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The honest reply - "Christ knows where our members are sending their fleets these days."

These days ????

The secret reply - "SSStttttt mazz it's all part of the plan, those are very hostile planets needing to be attacked"
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Do what I do, pray someone bigger than you attacks you, then retal him with your own fleet, and gain more score and your own roids + his back
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And that's supposed to be a new concept ?
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And that's supposed to be a new concept ?
No. TGVs new policy is to never planet scan big, res hoarding ziks prior to landing
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The honest reply - "Christ knows where our members are sending their fleets these days."
^^ bwahah ^^

But anyways.

This round was fun, tbh. From Omen's perspective, eventho we are unlikely to achieve our goals this round, w had fun battles, sleepless nights (not me tho, i always get my sleep. They could call me for days ;p) and people happy about their BR's and roids capped, aswell as whining about similar but reversed BRs and roids lost. THere has been great defences and well planned attacks on every side. There has been newbed defences and failed raids aswell as brilliant defences and simply unstoppable attacks. Yes, all in all, round was quite boring, but as any other, it had its moments.

Cudos to 1up for brilliantly estimating possibilities of political situations and picking up plan of action that would work the best in it. Noone is able to catch them at this time.

Eventho i just came back to PA, and really really short time ago actually got involved with politics, i enjoyed every bit of it nevertheless.

/me looks at insomnia's fat roids...

Maybe there are still things to play for this round
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Really?
Why the fk am i hitting a 700 roids 1up then. BC must have ****ed up
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Since when is a 20 million score advantage "impossible" to catch, mighteh?

(or is the round ending now perhaps?)
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Why the fk am i hitting a 700 roids 1up then. BC must have ****ed up
You probably got the co-ords wrong - you were meant to hit his 300 roid gal mate
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Let me just say i have never seen a round with so many wussies.
When 1up tagged up, they could have been stopped. Right now they can't be stopped, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to cruise to victory like they are doing now. Shame on everyone, including my alliance, for not having balls to play this game the way it should be done. As someone else says, if you are not the #1 alliance, who gives a fiddlers fart about your rank? You all should put differences aside and start giving 1up some decent incomings.
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Since when is a 20 million score advantage "impossible" to catch, mighteh?

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When they have 100%+ more roids, enough stockpiled res for 3 million more score and a value gap of over 30 million.
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When 1up tagged up, they could have been stopped. Right now they can't be stopped, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to cruise to victory like they are doing now. Shame on everyone, including my alliance, for not having balls to play this game the way it should be done. As someone else says, if you are not the #1 alliance, who gives a fiddlers fart about your rank? You all should put differences aside and start giving 1up some decent incomings.

God (allah, krishna, buddha, whoever) knows i tried if u look at other posts of mine.

All i ever got in responce of trying to organize a considerable force was... OOO... stfu, Omen twat... you are rude boy, you dont play well with others.
We dont wanna be your flak....
We as insecure about Omen and if they really plotting something else (that would result in them somehow being backstabbed by Omen)
We dont like Omen, we will not stand at the same side with them
We are higher beings then your average Omen member, our superintelligence makes us unlikely candidate to POIISBLY ever be friendly with your inferior minds
Your leadership sucks and your political prowess is that of a chimp.
We would have/should have/maybe some time weer gono do something, but that what happened was a no-no, and not we are pissed off, and we are going to go sit in our corner untill the round ends

... types of responces.

So go figgure.
I m not saying Omen should have done more, ofcourse we should have.

But when the shit hit the fan, people prefered to duck, rather then do something about it. Cannot say i blame them anymore. Thanks god there always is a next round, otherwise most PA except 1up would have quit by now ;p

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Now that would be a sight to see although I'm pretty sure it would be a massive score boost for 1up. I can already visualise our ziks wetting their pants* in excitement at the prospect.


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I think you fail to understand the concept of a hirr fleetcatch. NOTHING survives. Trust me.
In normal terms you would, of course, be correct. However elviz's stockpile is so large that it's gravitational force could crush suns. Combined with strong emp I'm not sure even 50 (non T100) planets worth of suicide fleet would come out on top. I believe the last lemming run consisted of quite a bit fewer than that.

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The thing is, he would have to spend those resources. And the next time you could hit him knowing he would not have that huge stockpile.
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im, it COULD be done and it SHOULD be done.
But you know, and I know that it WILL NOT be done. So were wasting energy of our fingers endlessly speculating on a possible case scenario.

Could OMEN considerable amount of ships in line ? Yes, more then any other alliance except 1up atm. Would they ? also, yes. But its not only up to Omen. Someone has to go and, yes, quite literally be flak for later waves. Someone has to drain that defence that Elviz will get versus 1st 20 waves. The he will spend resourses. and only afterwards, could he possibly be bashed/caught. We are talking about ticks upon ticks upon ticks of nonstop all out lamming runs at Elviz. It might not even be worth it, other then just prooving a point that it could be done.
+ i am more then sure other alliances will just ignore it, as usual, as keep their small afairs to themselves in their strife for #2 spot.
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It could be done but it's not as productive as many other things in the short-term or the long-term.
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my cents, Omen did good going for #1 but too much politics against them. yes when ND/insomnia both decided they arent good enough to go for #1 (lol DUH). it was pretty much decided... i mean they have both experience into serving as 1up flak, why not try it again?

just to their members: i know this "community" blabla hughug bullshit, but dont you get tired of being used like sheep each round to make your greater being 1up win? if so i would say join another alliance which can use your quality.

gj 1up on #1, who the phuck cares about any other spot?. gl insomnia/nd in achieving the best you can do.

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I notice how all Omen members keep trying to appeal to Insomnia/ND members to hit 1up rather than play second fiddle to 1up. It's very amusing to see that they consider it as ND/Insomnia wanting 1up to win rather than ND/Insomnia wanting Omen to not win.

The logic all such people are using is "Stop 1up winning! You have the ability, just not the balls". Maybe they ought to think of the potential logic behind saying to them "Congratulations, you wanted Omen to not win and had the balls to see to it, well played!"
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Re: Winners of R17 (1up not included)

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I notice how all Omen members keep trying to appeal to Insomnia/ND members to hit 1up rather than play second fiddle to 1up. It's very amusing to see that they consider it as ND/Insomnia wanting 1up to win rather than ND/Insomnia wanting Omen to not win.

The logic all such people are using is "Stop 1up winning! You have the ability, just not the balls". Maybe they ought to think of the potential logic behind saying to them "Congratulations, you wanted Omen to not win and had the balls to see to it, well played!"

well tbh i would like nd/ins to just die off cos if they wasnt 1up flak, you guys wasnt gonna be that cocky

well gj 1up you truly are the leading star how to play pa, you guys rule etc etc, wuss play works too
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well tbh i would like nd/ins to just die off cos if they wasnt 1up flak, you guys wasnt gonna be that cocky

well gj 1up you truly are the leading star how to play pa, you guys rule etc etc, wuss play works too
Errr... cocky? don't understand what we did that was cocky. We simply waded in and smacked you in the gob, it wasn't cocky, it was methodical and brutish.
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Oh, and on different note, sorta related to this thread, I know who this rounds losers are: small planets, the very planets always being championed by the likes of F-Crew, Rock, vengeance, TGV, SiN.

Why are these planets the losers you may ask? Well, the very alliances always championing their cause and complaining about bashing are the planets that have spent the most time 4/5/6+ waving these planets. It's been plastered all over my gal screen and arbiter all round, and it hasn't been a pretty sight. To see alliances such as these (the ones that claim to be the most sensitive to small planets) quite simply waving small planets into the ground was a painful sight. The larger alliances who usually get moaned at by aforementioned alliances for doing this tend to wave specifically hostile planets like that, but only send 2, maybe 3 waves at small planets. The complete annihilation inflicted by previously mentioned alliances (all mentioned because they are guilty rather than fitting any stereotype of the alliance) made this round a very dark one for smaller players who, considering the political climate, should have been far better off.
i only attack larger planets than myselves cept 1 or 2 fun raid during the daytime
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That's nice, but it relates to my post how?
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