[Approved] Removing vac-mode or allianceless-time?

[Nadar]

Isn't the 72h period without an alliance kinda useless when they can just enter vacation mode? Just like now #2 planet quit WP and I'm PRETTY sure they wanted their roids 'back', but he went into vacation-mode which last exactly the same amount of hours he'll be allianceless. So imo the 72 hour period while being allianceless should be removed or it should be impossible to go into vac-mode while not in an alliance.

Alternatively, if they quit an alliance they shouldn't be able to go into vac-mode before in 72 hours.

Anyone agree or you still want people being cowards and going into vac-mode like this?

(I'm sorry if this problem is already solved for next round, just thought I'd mention it as it's REALLY retarded.)

[ChubbyChecker]

Seems fine to me. If you want to go into vacation mode when you're allianceless it's fine by me.

[Nadar]

Yes, but it's cowardish and it's completely useless having the 72h period without an alliance then.

[NitinA]

I think it's already in PA Development for future rounds to change that. Just stopping the 72 tick no-alliance restriction during vacation mode would be the best solution IMO.

-NitinA

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by Nadar

Just like now #2 planet quit WP and I'm PRETTY sure they wanted their roids 'back', but he went into vacation-mode which last exactly the same amount of hours he'll be allianceless.

AFAIK he went on vacation

[MAdnRisKy]

vacatio ticks don't count down allianceless ticks, would just about do it

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by _Kila_

AFAIK he went on vacation

lol, and as a coincidence it was the same hour he decided to quit his allie I got one word anyway: coward

/me does the chicken-dance

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by MAdnRisKy

vacatio ticks don't count down allianceless ticks, would just about do it

That's probably the best solution.

[Kal]

this is allready coded for round 14

[Nadar]

Good good

[ANdrode]

Originally Posted by Nadar

Isn't the 72h period without an alliance kinda useless when they can just enter vacation mode? Just like now #2 planet quit WP and I'm PRETTY sure they wanted their roids 'back', but he went into vacation-mode which last exactly the same amount of hours he'll be allianceless. So imo the 72 hour period while being allianceless should be removed or it should be impossible to go into vac-mode while not in an alliance.

I think the whole 72 HR waiting period is useless.
What you'd want, and what would give about the same result, is a minimum 72 Hrs after applying to the previous alliance, before joining the next.

People quitting an alliance because they want a better one, shouldn't be helped. But quitting an alliance since it doesn't go along with your ideas, and changes course midround...

Does *that* need to cost you your fleet and your roids?

[Stifler]

Originally Posted by Kal

this is allready coded for round 14

good but didnt you say it would be fixed for this round after TeK did it last round?


also will you be just pausing no-alliance counter or stopping vacation when you are in the 72 tick period

[Makhil]

Originally Posted by ANdrode

But quitting an alliance since it doesn't go along with your ideas, and changes course midround...
Does *that* need to cost you your fleet and your roids?

I think he had a disagreement with WP HC and decided to make them feel his weight, by quitting. My guess is he will rejoin WP when vac mode ends otherwise he will be remembered as a big coward rather than the 1337 player he seems to be.

[_Kila_]

Originally Posted by Nadar

lol, and as a coincidence it was the same hour he decided to quit his allie I got one word anyway: coward

/me does the chicken-dance

what about if he was about to go on vacation and decides he doesnt wana be WP anymore. He leaves WP so that he isn't allianceless when he gets back?

[Tactitus]

Originally Posted by Nadar

Yes, but it's cowardish and it's completely useless having the 72h period without an alliance then.

As I recall, the intent of the waiting period was to prevent spurious alliance hopping. It wasn't specifically to force alliance switchers to be defenseless which would otherwise make 'legitimate' alliance switches rather daunting. It doesn't strike me as any more cowardly than attacking allianceless planets.

On a somewhat related note, I think anyone in vacation mode should be automatically removed from any alliance. Of course, they should be able to rejoin the alliance as soon as they exit vacation mode.

[Ultimate Newbie]

Originally Posted by Tactitus

It doesn't strike me as any more cowardly than attacking allianceless planets.

Subtle. I like .

On a somewhat related note, I think anyone in vacation mode should be automatically removed from any alliance. Of course, they should be able to rejoin the alliance as soon as they exit vacation mode.

What would that achieve? planets in vacation mode not being counted as part of the alliance statistic on Sandman's?

[Kal]

Originally Posted by Stifler

good but didnt you say it would be fixed for this round after TeK did it last round?


also will you be just pausing no-alliance counter or stopping vacation when you are in the 72 tick period

its actually physically coded now, not just going to be coded = and its a coutner that doesn;t count while in vacation mode, rather than stopping the person enter into vacation mode.

its also worth noting that vacation mode will be disabled for the last week of the round.

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by Kal

its also worth noting that vacation mode will be disabled for the last week of the round.

You should have stfu'ed about that m8, could have been interesting to see what happened

[at0mic.c0w]

Originally Posted by Nadar

Yes, but it's cowardish and it's completely useless having the 72h period without an alliance then.

no and no. what's cowardish about going into vacation mode when you know for a fact you will be roided without the chance to get defence in time ? it's just being realistic.
and as far as i am aware the 72h period was not inmplemented to stop top planets from geting def when they switch alliances at some point.

[Gio2k]

What's wrong with vacation mode. And what happens if an alliance kicks a member out, and decides to roid him endlessly? How is that fair? 72 ticks without income is also a big price to pay for being allianceless.
If you are pissed with someone you can't just try to change the rules and make them unfair just because you want revenge.

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by Gio2k

What's wrong with vacation mode. And what happens if an alliance kicks a member out, and decides to roid him endlessly? How is that fair? 72 ticks without income is also a big price to pay for being allianceless.
If you are pissed with someone you can't just try to change the rules and make them unfair just because you want revenge.

Clearly the 72 hour period shouldn't count if a member gets kicked from the alliance. He should be able to join any other alliance instantly after being kicked imo. 72 ticks without income isn't that much to pay tbfh... Gandhi will still be top10, if not top5, when his 'period' is over.

Revenge? Why do I want revenge? If you look at my sig you'll see I'm in NoS and not in WP. I don't really care about WP losing a member, but I can understand their frustration if they have any grudges towards him and wants to roid the sh*t out of him (I'm not saying they have any grudges against him, just IF). Clearly I'd be pissed about someone quitting my alliance and putting himself in vac-mode so we couldn't get our roids back.

But since the system is getting changed for next round I guess/hope the problems will be solved

[Kal]

Approved etc