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Master · 27 Jul 2003, 08:29

The ViolatorS alliance is now dead and i have this to thank, yesterday tehpropheT basicly left ViolatorS cuz i told him wheree to get stuffed about me doing all the work and him sitting back having his finger up his arse. So then TehPropheT as an arse he is leaves the ViolatorS channel and decided to do this:

14(1508:05:4414) _4(Lan4)15 i find it funny
14(1508:05:5514) _4(Lan4)15 TP pmed me last nite and asked to join tot

So last nite he decided to try and join ToT, hmm funny isnt it, obviously when they told him to get stuffed he did this instead while i was asleep:

01:29:29) _(TehPropheT) unlcuky
(01:29:40) _(TehPropheT) maybe u know ppl in other alliances
(01:29:54) _(TehPropheT) but i happen to know the head of Cservice

So somehow while im asleep this guy gets the ownership switched becuase i wudnt give it him, so ive had a word with the admins about that and i have evidence as you can see hes claiming it was changed just cuz he 'knows' the admin. Well we will see wont we mate. Then ofc now i have left my members that i would like to add 'I got' into the alliance will now leave as this i see as a disrespected move and i find this very anoying that the admins would give him that permission. But fair enough ive contaced one today and hes informed me he dont know whats gone on and he will see whats happend so fair enough. But to ppl who want to join ViolatorS here a reason why, first TehPropheT dont do jack **** for it, as i pointed out i reggistered the chans, got the members in and even did this post as you can see, i even regged his P nick for him cuz he was that incompitent. Well its your choice if you want to join such an alliance. If i was you i wudnt waste my time. Anyway i have quit PA still but im warning you guys that it will be just as Vio was in charge of him in round 1 it had 6 members then died, and thats the truth. So gud luck in round 10.

DrK-Assassin

Cicada · 27 Jul 2003, 10:08

you seem to be 'ex' in quite a few alliances..

maybe you're the problem, not him

27 Jul 2003, 10:09

Basically if anyone wants to talk about that /msg TehPropheT hiya.

If you believe any of the above quotes you are insane, as they are false.

I am not prepared to argue this out on PA forums, as ill just discuss this when i see him in Real Life ;P.

- TehPropheT

Master · 27 Jul 2003, 10:12

lol

Rick111 · 27 Jul 2003, 10:12

_o/ \o/ \o_

sup

SOL · 27 Jul 2003, 10:16

ive seen what little TP actually did in Vio,and i also know how much effort DrK Assassin put into it,and how upset he was it didnt work out

after what we said yesterday mate i actully hope you do play rd 10 :-(

27 Jul 2003, 10:20

Quote:

Originally posted by SOL
ive seen what little TP actually did in Vio,and i also know how much effort DrK Assassin put into it,and how upset he was it didnt work out

after what we said yesterday mate i actully hope you do play rd 10 :-(

That was in the matter of a few days :P, RL gets in the way. btw this is the first time assassin has actually done anything for vio as i and many others kept it going over the rounds. But i see where your coming from.

Fair comment.. dont get me wrong he has worked hard over the pass week or so.. but that dont give him right to rem all my channels from all channels no does it :/

anyways nvm. sure all u ppl dont want to read this rubbish anyways.

jornx · 27 Jul 2003, 11:20

Quote:

Originally posted by TehPropheT
That was in the matter of a few days :P, RL gets in the way. btw this is the first time assassin has actually done anything for vio as i and many others kept it going over the rounds. But i see where your coming from.

Fair comment.. dont get me wrong he has worked hard over the pass week or so.. but that dont give him right to rem all my channels from all channels no does it :/

anyways nvm. sure all u ppl dont want to read this rubbish anyways.

I thought u weren't prepared to argue about this on the PA forums?

WipeOut · 27 Jul 2003, 11:40

Not at all interested in that alliance, nor who is the one to blame for it's missuccess, the question about the cservice admin does trouble my young mind though, I have to admit.

Is there anything solid which can be said about this?

Maddix · 27 Jul 2003, 13:04

Who are ViolatorS?

sigrid · 27 Jul 2003, 13:48

and erm, did you ever actually violate anything?

27 Jul 2003, 14:17

So, this fuss is all about his new 6 man alliance?
I suggjest you join something alittle higher on the crp list, like
uv.

Aryn · 27 Jul 2003, 17:44

if this had happened in a bigger alliance.. say eclipse (for ****s and giggles) we'd be hearing about this for a month.

here we are back at the argument where you guys don't allow the smaller alliances to post on these boards.
it's not the 'elite alliance forum'.. it's the alliance forum. if they want to post they're allowed fs.

27 Jul 2003, 18:11

Quote:

Originally posted by sigrid
and erm, did you ever actually violate anything?

heh, we'ave been running since end of rnd 1 mate.

private and selective group.

hydridia · 27 Jul 2003, 18:16

oi dude MikeHunt stfu about UV you prat and get back to discussion!

before i beat your ass

Wrath of Azure · 27 Jul 2003, 18:26

Hmm, I must say that I honestly havent heard of Vio til last week when Assassin invited me into the channel. He seemed quite dedicated and was doing alot of work trying to spread the name and get new members enrolled. That's about the extent of my knowledge tho.

Anyway, I'm sad to see that it didnt work out for you Assassin.

(btw dont quit pa

)

Recon · 27 Jul 2003, 22:39

Quote:

Originally posted by hydridia
oi dude MikeHunt stfu about UV you prat and get back to discussion!

before i beat your ass

Kjeldoran · 27 Jul 2003, 23:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Maddix
Who are ViolatorS?

and that was my same first reaction ...

rgds Kj

Maddix · 28 Jul 2003, 09:12

Quote:

Originally posted by TehPropheT
heh, we'ave been running since end of rnd 1 mate.

private and selective group.

Quote:

From TehPropheT's sig
Ex ViruS, Ex ToT, Ex Bluephnx (Blue), Ex NRK, Ex VWB

Obviously didn't bother to tell all your other alliances about your super secret alliance then, naughty naughty.

Al_zz · 28 Jul 2003, 10:08

Exactly what was the role of cservice in this matter ?
I can hardly believe they would transfer channels away from an active IRC member.
If so that would be a serious breach of conduct. The one who registers a channel is the owner.
If someone wants to contest that he can do so but transferrring them without the registered owner knowing is not acceptable.

hAl

Terminator2003 · 28 Jul 2003, 11:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Aryn
if this had happened in a bigger alliance.. say eclipse (for ****s and giggles) we'd be hearing about this for a month.

here we are back at the argument where you guys don't allow the smaller alliances to post on these boards.
it's not the 'elite alliance forum'.. it's the alliance forum. if they want to post they're allowed fs.

Im not in an elite or big alliance, but I never heared of Violators at all. Wtf is wrong with that dear MoD?

Maddix · 28 Jul 2003, 11:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Terminator2003
Im not in an elite or big alliance, but I never heared of Violators at all. Wtf is wrong with that dear MoD?

Didn't you get humiliated enough last time you has a posting spree on these boards?

oldtown · 28 Jul 2003, 15:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Al_zz
Exactly what was the role of cservice in this matter ?
I can hardly believe they would transfer channels away from an active IRC member.
If so that would be a serious breach of conduct. The one who registers a channel is the owner.
If someone wants to contest that he can do so but transferrring them without the registered owner knowing is not acceptable.

hAl

Well in case of alliances if the one who registered channels is no longer running alliance the channels belong to said alliance, in that case channels are moved to other hc....however in this case as the owner of channels was still in charge in alliance it is a problem.

davidb · 28 Jul 2003, 15:29

Quote:

Originally posted by TehPropheT

anyways nvm. sure all u ppl dont want to read this rubbish anyways.

The rest of the board is full of it so why not add your own personal thread here about an alliance no1 has heard of

Bongdage · 29 Jul 2003, 10:08

Aryn, of course they are allowed to post, but we dont have to care...

the 'elite' alliances are discussed because they are interesting, they impact each round dramatically whereas the lesser unheard of alliances arent particularly too interesting to Joe AD-Reader.

WipeOut · 29 Jul 2003, 10:33

Where I think that the quality of posting here is not defined by the poster's alliance origin, but by the manner in which the poster composes his post, I must say that the only interesting part in this post (in my perception) is the part where the thread starter points to cservice admins abusing their powers. Can anybody in the loop eleborate on that a bit?

Gerbie · 29 Jul 2003, 11:22

#cservice seems to have a policy that the one who can convince them he's HC of the alliance can get ownership of the channel transferred to him.

BTW I'm the new HHC of LDK. Gimme those channels.

Al_zz · 29 Jul 2003, 12:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Gerbie
#cservice seems to have a policy that the one who can convince them he's HC of the alliance can get ownership of the channel transferred to him.

BTW I'm the new HHC of LDK. Gimme those channels.

I'm HC of a new alliance called planetarion alliance. Therefore I would like to have the #planetarion channel transferred to me at once !!!!

hAl

Al_zz · 29 Jul 2003, 12:21

Quote:

Originally posted by oldtown
Well in case of alliances if the one who registered channels is no longer running alliance the channels belong to said alliance, in that case channels are moved to other hc....however in this case as the owner of channels was still in charge in alliance it is a problem.

This should not be the case at all.
In cases where a member leaves the alliance who has control of alliance channel that member should transfer the channels himself to another member/HC.

Mayby in extrordanary cases exceptions could be made. For instance if the channel owner has not shown himself in a long period on IRC or has closed the channel removing everybody just to block the use of the channel.

hAl

WipeOut · 29 Jul 2003, 12:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Al_zz
This should not be the case at all.
In cases where a member leaves the alliance who has control of alliance channel that member should transfer the channels himself to another member/HC.

Mayby in extrordanary cases exceptions could be made. For instance if the channel owner has not shown himself in a long period on IRC or has closed the channel removing everybody just to block the use of the channel.

hAl

Isn't that exactly what oldtown said as well?

Wrath of Azure · 29 Jul 2003, 15:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Al_zz
This should not be the case at all.
In cases where a member leaves the alliance who has control of alliance channel that member should transfer the channels himself to another member/HC.

Mayby in extrordanary cases exceptions could be made. For instance if the channel owner has not shown himself in a long period on IRC or has closed the channel removing everybody just to block the use of the channel.

hAl

Alliance channels aren't private channels. They're public mediums for an alliance to use and it just requires a person to register them. The rules that private channels follow wouldn't apply to them.

What if this ex-HC is still irc active but not leading the alliance anymore? What if he just wants to be an ass and not relinquish control of the channel(s) to the current HC? I think cservice's policy of switching ownership of an alliance channel to the current HC is just. However, I have seen firsthand what can happen when people 'know' other people in 'high' places and I certainly hope that isnt the case here.

Rocklobster[Dok] · 29 Jul 2003, 16:24

Quote:

Originally posted by sigrid
and erm, did you ever actually violate anything?

\o/

/me logs off and goes on vacation

hatter · 14 Nov 2003, 03:04

to clarify: right i dimly recall this (i was the admin who did the transfer) so here it goes

at the time i was channel administrator (im not and have never been head of CSC and have never claimed to be they would be Trinity/Raistlin)

CSC policy on alliance channels taken from http://www.netgamers.org/modules/dow...s/cscrules.txt

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6) Alliance And Galaxy Channels
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- Alliance channels with the channel name not similar from their alliance name are not considered the main alliance channel by the CSC
- Proof of HC / GC status must be readily available upon request of CSC member
- If an alliance or galaxy member registers the main alliance or galaxy channel, they must have the backing of the HC or GC
- Main alliance / galaxy channels may be transferred to the next ranking alliance / galaxy member until ownership is decided amongst the affected players
- The HC / GC has the final say in their main alliance / galaxy channel
- Should the HC / GC step down, the next ranking member voted by the affected players will take over ownership of the channel

i dimly remember we were told Assassin had left pa (that was even in the set topic by him) and that he had steped down, TehPropheT was able to satifactorly prove he was the next HC in line he had uber high access in the channel so i gave it to him

Assassin complained to CSC management CSC decided policy was followed etc

CSC admins don't abuse power if we do we get kicked (many checks in place) =)

hatter CSC Nick Administrator

Aryn · 14 Nov 2003, 07:08

bumping threads is bad
BAD!