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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 19:34   #1
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hi side swappers, defectors

It is a shame that people are leaving VVOMM now, when they are needed. Shame on the alliances that accepts them. When even command change sides. I hope i will not meet you anymore in the game, at least as ally. Having such info and defecting is always the worst. Selling your allies like a cup of tea. Once more, shame on DEFECTORS and ACCEPTERS.
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 19:38   #2
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 19:39   #3
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It'd be nice to see names of Alliances in one of these posts
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 19:41   #4
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like NoS ?
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Ive seen allot of moaning about this defectors stuff, and it makes me laugh, i was not going to say nything before, but i remember very very qell in round 6 how a Titans HC, now a VOM HC was relaying information to Silver BC, so that his galaxy would stay safe....i reckon thats allot worse...
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god i love the utter bull**** on these forums... gala for your own personal information... there is NO single VOM HC that was EVER a titan hc. hmmmkay?

as the only one that was.. quitted in round 6 be4 tickstart

and my gal sure as hell has had it's share of silver attacks that round
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It'd be nice to see names of Alliances in one of these posts
imo if you didn't let them in there is no reason why you wouldn't admit that... so far we've only heard pack...

and suddenly people like xtothez and dreadnaught and zhil never talk on forums anymore i wonder why..... surely you can tell if your alliance is guilty of this or not
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tbh anyone who trusts a defector is foolish, unless they have real reasons for leaving aside from being a pussie and not being able to hack losing.
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I'll just repost this, as it applies just as much here as on the original thread:

I fail to see the problem here. Is it a big moral issue whether or not an alliance chooses to recruit members who have recently left another alliance? It is their choice. It's a mostly pragmatic choice. It's not about 'Is this a good or evil thing to do?'.

An alliance' policy on how they treat 'traitors' and 'ship jumpers' is of very little interest to the common public as more than 'they did something stupid by allowing XXXX who will leave them next round when they're losing to join'. But let's face it, that's a problem they're going to have to deal with. Chances are that they're aware of the risk, and either willing to take it or planning on doing something about it.

And as for the people who actually do 'betray' their allies, chances are they had a foot in the other camp already. By now the community is so inbred there's hardly an alliance that doesn't have friends on the other side. And caving in to peer pressure isn't evil*.

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*I say this realizing that many times people do this for fun and profit, but who are we to judge, rulers of the great stagnating powerblocks that we are?
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tbh anyone who trusts a defector is foolish, unless they have real reasons for leaving aside from being a pussie and not being able to hack losing.
the problem is that people that are defecting now werent known as defectirs heh
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 19:58   #11
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defectors are un-loyal weenies who play for themselves. they have no faith in thier alliance, and in this case, refuse to even stick around for a week of tough times.
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i remember very very qell in round 6 how a Titans HC, now a VOM HC was relaying information to Silver BC, so that his galaxy would stay safe....i reckon thats allot worse...
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wong.

There was 2 Titans HC in round 6. So who was it? Myself or Hearts? I'd love to know.



I'll give you a clue. Neither of us are VOM HC, Hearts isn't a guy and I know it wasn't me.

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Re: hi side swappers, defectors

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It is a shame that people are leaving VVOMM now, when they are needed. Shame on the alliances that accepts them. When even command change sides. I hope i will not meet you anymore in the game, at least as ally. Having such info and defecting is always the worst. Selling your allies like a cup of tea. Once more, shame on DEFECTORS and ACCEPTERS.
I do agree with you.
There is nothing wonderful in defecting, but it removes
the wee'd pants from your place, have it as a cleaning
and getting better standard of hygienia

I remember a galaxy which defected r6 in my cluster when
we even had chance to dominate the cluster, and we *did*
it without them later, must have been a very bad round for
the fifteen people sitting their butts at the defected galaxy.
Legion totally showed them what happens to defectors
even as losing side, take heed from them
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wong.

There was 2 Titans HC in round 6. So who was it? Myself or Hearts? I'd love to know.



I'll give you a clue. Neither of us are VOM HC, Hearts isn't a guy and I know it wasn't me.

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pfffffft we know you're running this all from behind the scenes just admit it:P

if hearts had protection tho why did we get attacked so much?
necrokilling is fun tho:P
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I totaly agree with lrytas, deflecting during a round is really bad.
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I agree if its not a new alliance. However Oly has no track record and as such I think is lacking in any chance of survival.

Loyalty is from defending and having a fun team atmosphere. I see Oly being another Adelante.
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 20:19   #17
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I agree if its not a new alliance. However Oly has no track record and as such I think is lacking in any chance of survival.

Loyalty is from defending and having a fun team atmosphere. I see Oly being another Adelante.
rumad quit your lameness... you never been in here... we have fun a nice team atmosphere and we defend so heh

proud to be cheating fang etc? you've had your share of defectors aswell... hmmm maybe you didn't cuz we refused em
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Re: hi side swappers, defectors

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Having such info and defecting is always the worst. Selling your allies like a cup of tea. Once more, shame on DEFECTORS and ACCEPTERS.
The defectors so far hasnt published any information bout vvomm due to respect towards these alliances
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I am glad you enjoy it - i hope you feel the same in a week mate - also hard for you to defect knowing who's gal you are in.

wtf you on about? as if i would want to defect... would rather be bashed to death then defect... and fun is not only how big your planet is it's the people you play with

and now i'm off again for a while from ad seeyas
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wtf you on about? as if i would want to defect... would rather be bashed to death then defect... and fun is not only how big your planet is it's the people you play with

and now i'm off again for a while from ad seeyas
I can be rotterdam tomorrow intersted ?

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Re: Re: hi side swappers, defectors

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The defectors so far hasnt published any information bout vvomm due to respect towards these alliances
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Re: Re: hi side swappers, defectors

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I do agree with you.
There is nothing wonderful in defecting, but it removes
the wee'd pants from your place, have it as a cleaning
and getting better standard of hygienia

I remember a galaxy which defected r6 in my cluster when
we even had chance to dominate the cluster, and we *did*
it without them later, must have been a very bad round for
the fifteen people sitting their butts at the defected galaxy.
Legion totally showed them what happens to defectors
even as losing side, take heed from them

yeah i kinda remember that gal, can't quite put my finger on it tho...
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Accepting defectors in such situation is plain stupid because NARSWEET are perfectly going to win it if they keep up the work.

For exemple in round 6, if xeta or flvt took defectors, it is because they were quite high ranked and could be a lot of help, in that case I guess it is good to 'use' the defectors and accept them.

The war was so close that a top 30 gals could change the outcome of a night, but in this situation it is just very very stupid to accept defectors.
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Ive seen allot of moaning about this defectors stuff, and it makes me laugh, i was not going to say nything before, but i remember very very qell in round 6 how a Titans HC, now a VOM HC was relaying information to Silver BC, so that his galaxy would stay safe....i reckon thats allot worse...
as far as i'm aware they'res not any ex-titans HC in VOM
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Sounds like an awfully bad position to put oneself in. Your old allies hate you, your new allies are suspicious of you and won't trust you, and the rest of the universe will always view people in the worst possible light without giving them ammunition. I can't see a reason why other alliances shouldn't accept these members. Clearly they'd be stupid to trust them but that doesn't mean you shouldn't let them in.
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You are such an impossible man Dingo, did you not know we caused the war in Iraq, one of our women gave birth to Hitler, and 'cancer' and 'Aids' are nothing but NoS' chemical warefare?

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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wong.

There was 2 Titans HC in round 6. So who was it? Myself or Hearts? I'd love to know.



I'll give you a clue. Neither of us are VOM HC, Hearts isn't a guy and I know it wasn't me.

Would you like to take something back?

there wasnt much to save from your galaxy anyway scous0r.


*and to the ppl that bring up that F&F defected when it turned ****: we didnt defect, we were Titans, hirr, ND, Ety b4 Rumad got Titans to ally with legion to save his petty project, only to find him later in Deus hahaha. we were bored and wanted targets, so we dropped Titans (just before the final war broke out :/)
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I would imagine Gala is refering to WebAngel.
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as for defectors, I have half of 30:13 r7 in mind.
mazze, Longy etc. evil evil. buuuuh buuuuuh.
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You are such an impossible man Dingo, did you not know we caused the war in Iraq, one of our women gave birth to Hitler, and 'cancer' and 'Aids' are nothing but NoS' chemical warefare?

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I would imagine Gala is refering to WebAngel.
WebAngel was never Titans HC. During round 6 he wasn't even command.
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 23:36   #37
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WebAngel was never Titans HC. During round 6 he wasn't even command.
HEY! Whats wrong with not being Titans command in round 6
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HEY! Whats wrong with not being Titans command in round 6
Nothing. I was just pointing out how entirely off the mark Galadrieth was.
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Unread 20 Mar 2003, 23:45   #39
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talk for yourself

some recruiting standards :eek:
Yes, I still regret we once recruited you.

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Yes, I still regret we once recruited you.

FYI, I will not reply to any unintelligent posts from you, so do not bother.
at least i didnt bug out on you in the middle of the round
and run to your enemies , i had enough integrity to wait
till the round was over .

i regret listening to rehs who convinced me to join ,
tho in retrospect i did meet some decent peeps there
, and some who rate a bit less then scum (guess who :P )
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yeah sarcasme is good.
a straight answer to where these renegades had gone would be good also.
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yeah sarcasme is good.
a straight answer to where these renegades had gone would be good also.
one little piggy went to NoS .. some rumor i heard said
another little piggy went to WP . clear enough ?

another little piggy claims to be unallied .. but i wonder how
long that will stay ..
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well some little piggy said it wasnt wp
so either this piggy is full of bacon or you are..clear enough?
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well some little piggy said it wasnt wp
so either this piggy is full of bacon or you are..clear enough?
i did say it was a RUMOR
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wong.

There was 2 Titans HC in round 6. So who was it? Myself or Hearts? I'd love to know.



I'll give you a clue. Neither of us are VOM HC, Hearts isn't a guy and I know it wasn't me.

Would you like to take something back?
Maybe he confused it for a bc...
Belive atleast in round 7 or round 6 there was a command spy in titans...
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rumad quit your lameness... you never been in here... we have fun a nice team atmosphere and we defend so heh

proud to be cheating fang etc? you've had your share of defectors aswell... hmmm maybe you didn't cuz we refused em
belive about 80-90% of fang players left the alliance round 8.. So isn't really the same.. Because I closed Adelante and FAnG didn't don't make FAnG a succes this round.
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Maybe he confused it for a bc...
Belive atleast in round 7 or round 6 there was a command spy in titans...
Your eternal anti-Titans posts are boring me. Back them up please in the future.
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Unread 21 Mar 2003, 01:30   #48
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It is a shame that people are leaving VVOMM now, when they are needed. Shame on the alliances that accepts them. When even command change sides. I hope i will not meet you anymore in the game, at least as ally. Having such info and defecting is always the worst. Selling your allies like a cup of tea. Once more, shame on DEFECTORS and ACCEPTERS.
hehe, so basicly shame on 90% of PA then? cause that's what those 2 blocks have in numbers I think.

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Your eternal anti-Titans posts are boring me. Back them up please in the future.
heh, maybe I could give him a few tips or ....

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heh, maybe I could give him a few tips or ....

rgds Kj
Or maybe not?

Scouse, shush with ya, let Storebo make fun of himself. After all, he is good at it.
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