|
26 Mar 2005, 01:18
|
#1
|
Newdawn ftw \o/
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 101
|
Race plans
Whats the best race plan for eatch race?
__________________
[ND]olle
Proud to be in [NewDawn] - Member | DC | BC | Scanner
- Soaring where the angels fear to fly
|
|
|
26 Mar 2005, 17:16
|
#2
|
Lost
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland
Posts: 413
|
Re: Race plans
ZIK
This is what i will be doing *roughly*
Engeneering
Reserch, Construction, Mining
Reserch Order
HCT, CORE, HCT, HCT, SHIPS
Construction Order
Res Lab, Res Lab, E mine x5, Small Fact, Res Lab, Res Lab
This means that my ships will be ready just after tick 72 which puts me a little behind but will allow me to defend any incoming on the gal and hopefully cap shippies while theirs no JPGs about
|
|
|
26 Mar 2005, 19:26
|
#3
|
;D!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,810
|
Re: Race plans
Really haven't thought about it. Hell, I don't even know what race I am atm, though it looks like I could be xan.
Rough plan:
Engineering:
Research, construction, mining.
Construction:
Res Lab, mine, mine, mine, mine, res lab etc (factories as soon as I can get them)
Research:
HCT, HCT, CORE, SHIPS, HCT.
Though I really have nfi. :/
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 03:23
|
#4
|
Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy
Reserch Order
HCT, CORE, HCT, HCT, SHIPS
|
Mate, like that, you'll prolly be twiddeling your thumbs - i did that last round and core simply takes to long to do - i could init too quickly and missed out on quite alot of resources...
I'd suggest you do HCT HCT then CORE. As for the rest, i have nfi as i quickly dismissed going zik .
Lo btw
__________________
#Strategy ; #Support - Sovereign
--- --- ---
"The Cake is a Lie."
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 03:38
|
#5
|
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: ******
Posts: 2,326
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy
Reserch Order
HCT, CORE, HCT, HCT, SHIPS
|
You get more resources if you drop Core and do mining as first priority. Obviously this means research as second priority which screws with your construction.
Quote:
Res Lab, Res Lab, E mine x5, Small Fact, Res Lab, Res Lab
|
Why not Res, E, E, E, E, Res, E, Light fac?
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 13:41
|
#6
|
Lost
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland
Posts: 413
|
Re: Race plans
i aint planned it out sufficiantly yet i needed to check wether to do core 2nd or 3rd.
And i hadnt thought about the res lab untill u just mentioned it i might move it down the line a bit so that i get the benefit without missing out on e mines
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 15:06
|
#7
|
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: ******
Posts: 2,326
|
Re: Race plans
If you initiate to 300, core gets you the roids earlier (plus the equivalent of more roids), but it costs you some ticks of research. For a Cath the cost is 13 ticks.
Incidentally, initiating to 300 roids is probably more beneficial than attacking at pt72.
Last edited by Banned; 27 Mar 2005 at 15:13.
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 20:35
|
#8
|
Lost
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Scotland
Posts: 413
|
Re: Race plans
Their is no way i will be atttacking at tick 72 well i cant see it.
i will concentrate on defence untill i can cap a decent fleet
|
|
|
27 Mar 2005, 20:37
|
#9
|
The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
Posts: 1,633
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishy
Their is no way i will be atttacking at tick 72 well i cant see it.
i will concentrate on defence untill i can cap a decent fleet
|
Its such a beauitul plan to
__________________
introduction-Gramma
The following is a list of problems found in various places throughout the manual and game. We love you Noah!
Written by Kloopy Wed Mar 16 22:06:43 2005
Retired just for a bit....
Proud to have been 1up, SiN, Wolfpack, Bluetuba and the leader of ARK.
|
|
|
28 Mar 2005, 22:42
|
#10
|
Newdawn ftw \o/
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 101
|
Re: Race plans
oooooooooook.... im just throwing out some ides...
Xan have the advantage of FI ships low eta so they should take that advantage and roid em while they can so...
Engineering:
Research, mining, construction.
Construction:
RES LAB, RES LAB, LIGHT FACTORY
Research:
HCT, HCT, SHIPS, HCT, CORE.
no?
Cat
Engineering:
Research, mining, construction.
Construction:
RES LAB, RES LAB, CRYSTAL MINE, LIGHT FACTORY, RES LAB
Research:
HCT, HCT, SHIPS, HCT, CORE.
Zik
I dunno
Ter
Engineering:
mining, reaserch, construction.
Construction:
METAL MINE, RES LAB, RES LAB, LIGHT FACTORY
Research:
HCT, HCT, CORE, HCT, SHIPS
__________________
[ND]olle
Proud to be in [NewDawn] - Member | DC | BC | Scanner
- Soaring where the angels fear to fly
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 00:31
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3
|
Re: Race plans
Only need one research lab for every 4 other constructions to get maximum benefit.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 05:46
|
#12
|
Reborn
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: A Galaxy Far Far Away
Posts: 46
|
Re: Race plans
im going cath and im trying
Res/Min/Con
Construct
Reslab, Crystal x4, Reslab, Lightfactory
Research
CORE, HCT, HCT, HCT, SHIP, ETA, ETA | Bash core first all you want but ill be gaining resources on everyone post tick 18
__________________
A Old Game With a New Vision
A Old Player With a New Mission
Together We Both Claim ~ReViCtIoN~ Conviction, Courage, Control
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 06:54
|
#13
|
self-entitledly superior
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Finland
Posts: 341
|
Re: Race plans
Zik suggestion since theres not one yet.
Engineering:
Res/Min/Con
Construction:
Res Lab, 4 x Eonium Mine, Res Lab, Light Factory
Research:
HCT, Core, HCT, HCT, FI
If you want ships flying at tick 72, prolly could set Engineering to Res/Con/Min and then change to Res/Prod/Min before ordering ships.
Edit: /me slaps myself for not reading. Ofc there was a zik suggestion by Squishy already.
Last edited by Hude; 29 Mar 2005 at 09:03.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 11:24
|
#14
|
Ron Burgundy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: A glass case of emotion
Posts: 632
|
Re: Race plans
how about a terran post from noah :P
In the beta i went
Res/Min/Con
Cons:
Res lab, metal mine, metal mine, metal mine , Res lab
Research
HCT1, Core, HCT2, HCT3, Hulls, Hulls <-- no so sure about this one.
__________________
[/dribble]
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 21:36
|
#15
|
Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
Posts: 1,192
|
Re: Race plans
Hmm, everyone has put Res as 1st on Eng prio, interesting...
__________________
FAnG
Ascendancy
Apprime
Ultores
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 23:16
|
#16
|
Newdawn ftw \o/
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 101
|
Re: Race plans
im gonne put mining onf first, then research and lastly construction
__________________
[ND]olle
Proud to be in [NewDawn] - Member | DC | BC | Scanner
- Soaring where the angels fear to fly
|
|
|
29 Mar 2005, 23:30
|
#17
|
;D!
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,810
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt
Hmm, everyone has put Res as 1st on Eng prio, interesting...
|
Surely that is most beneficial?
I'm not as leet as teh mighteh Colt obviously, but I don't see how anything else could really pay off so well, atleast early in the game?
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 01:06
|
#18
|
Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by OK.:.VJ
im gonne put mining onf first, then research and lastly construction
|
I do something similar after protection has ended (i think production might be third) - but definately research before protection ends .
__________________
#Strategy ; #Support - Sovereign
--- --- ---
"The Cake is a Lie."
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 15:16
|
#19
|
pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
Posts: 1,347
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by OK.:.VJ
Ter
Engineering:
mining, reaserch, construction.
Construction:
METAL MINE, RES LAB, RES LAB, LIGHT FACTORY
Research:
HCT, HCT, CORE, HCT, SHIPS
|
To get pods as a Terran you need Destroyers. That means you need to race to fr/de class asap. That means Research would have to be priority 1.
Core does not fit into such a strategy. Do it later.
As you also have a limitted number of constructions you can build (10), you will also have to do Infrastructure upgrade soon. You can stall a bit by having construction as third priority.
That means:
Engineering:
Research/Mining/Construction
Construction
Res Lab, Metal Mine, ...
Research
HCT, HCT, HCT, Ships, Ships, Infr, Core, eta
__________________
round 5 noob
round 6 noob
round 7 noob: rank 6.198 25:20:25 - VoC member
round 8 noob: rank 4.112 7:2:3 - TFD member
round 9 rank 941 23:1:9 - TFD HC
round 9.5 rank 860 22:7:3 - TFD HC
round 10: rank unknown (was #1 for a while) 5:2:5 - Vengeance pe0n
round 10.5: rank 683 19:10:2 - VGN member
round 11: rank 138 8:8:4 - VsN member
round 12: rank 515 - VGN 'special attack officer' -> jumped ship to Rock
round 13: rank 85: NoS
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 15:26
|
#20
|
Commodore
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 3,176
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbie
Research
HCT, HCT, HCT, Ships, Ships, Infr, Core, eta
|
Whilst i agree with everything else you just said - going for three HCT at the beginning?
I would have gone for two, then one for ships (as it would be fairly quick in comparison) - mind you i havent done any detailed calculations about it :\.
Three just seems a tad high...
__________________
#Strategy ; #Support - Sovereign
--- --- ---
"The Cake is a Lie."
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 15:33
|
#21
|
pe0n
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kindom of the Netherlands
Posts: 1,347
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Newbie
Whilst i agree with everything else you just said - going for three HCT at the beginning?
I would have gone for two, then one for ships (as it would be fairly quick in comparison) - mind you i havent done any detailed calculations about it :\.
Three just seems a tad high...
|
You could be right. I haven't calced it through with roids and resources.
__________________
round 5 noob
round 6 noob
round 7 noob: rank 6.198 25:20:25 - VoC member
round 8 noob: rank 4.112 7:2:3 - TFD member
round 9 rank 941 23:1:9 - TFD HC
round 9.5 rank 860 22:7:3 - TFD HC
round 10: rank unknown (was #1 for a while) 5:2:5 - Vengeance pe0n
round 10.5: rank 683 19:10:2 - VGN member
round 11: rank 138 8:8:4 - VsN member
round 12: rank 515 - VGN 'special attack officer' -> jumped ship to Rock
round 13: rank 85: NoS
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 20:42
|
#22
|
Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
Posts: 1,192
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gate
Surely that is most beneficial?
I'm not as leet as teh mighteh Colt obviously, but I don't see how anything else could really pay off so well, atleast early in the game?
|
depends which race you play i suppose, tho ive always started with con/res/min, usually does well as terran, which is the only race i play :>
/me fluffl3s the nearly mighteh Gate
__________________
FAnG
Ascendancy
Apprime
Ultores
|
|
|
30 Mar 2005, 23:43
|
#23
|
Good Son
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Finland
Posts: 3,991
|
Re: Race plans
Then, Colt, do you do two infrastructure upgrades during the protection ticks, or how do you manage to keep your constructions building up without restrictions? Terrans can build prolly 15 cons as 2nd priority even. For a terran, tempted to push it to third to make room for minings.
__________________
"Oh, wretched race of a day, children of chance and misery, why do ye compel me to say to you what it were most expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is for ever beyond your reach: not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. The second best for you, however, is soon to die". Silenus, tutor to Dionysos, speaking to King Midas.
|
|
|
31 Mar 2005, 13:58
|
#24
|
The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
Posts: 1,633
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by veX
how about a terran post from noah :P
In the beta i went
Res/Min/Con
Cons:
Res lab, metal mine, metal mine, metal mine , Res lab
Research
HCT1, Core, HCT2, HCT3, Hulls, Hulls <-- no so sure about this one.
|
I had 20 extra roids compared to everyone else in beta so dont go with that plan that was just a testing phase for fun because of the spare roids.
As for mining 2nd? i have never had mining 2nd or 1st for the 1st 48 ticks at least.
__________________
introduction-Gramma
The following is a list of problems found in various places throughout the manual and game. We love you Noah!
Written by Kloopy Wed Mar 16 22:06:43 2005
Retired just for a bit....
Proud to have been 1up, SiN, Wolfpack, Bluetuba and the leader of ARK.
|
|
|
31 Mar 2005, 13:59
|
#25
|
The Original Terran
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Afghan atm
Posts: 1,633
|
Re: Race plans
oops sorry just read that wrong :P
You meant you.
Apologies :P
thought you was quoting a post from me :P
__________________
introduction-Gramma
The following is a list of problems found in various places throughout the manual and game. We love you Noah!
Written by Kloopy Wed Mar 16 22:06:43 2005
Retired just for a bit....
Proud to have been 1up, SiN, Wolfpack, Bluetuba and the leader of ARK.
|
|
|
31 Mar 2005, 20:39
|
#26
|
Mercenary
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Todmorden
Posts: 1,192
|
Re: Race plans
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tietäjä
Then, Colt, do you do two infrastructure upgrades during the protection ticks, or how do you manage to keep your constructions building up without restrictions? Terrans can build prolly 15 cons as 2nd priority even. For a terran, tempted to push it to third to make room for minings.
|
During protection i did infrastrucutre before the 1st hull/eta so i could carry on with cons. You can get 18 cons with engineering prio constructions 1st, as 2nd you can only get 12.
__________________
FAnG
Ascendancy
Apprime
Ultores
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:25.
| |