User Name
Password

Go Back   Planetarion Forums > Planetarion Related Forums > Planetarion Discussions
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Today's Posts

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 24 Mar 2007, 19:59   #1
Gio2k
Bolivian Alpaca
 
Gio2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 912
Gio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond reputeGio2k has a reputation beyond repute
Cluster ETA

Please make a poll about this point.
I personally think cluster etas are damaging to alliances, and encourage solo and xp play, and should be removed.
__________________
"I throw myself into the sea, release the wave, let it wash over me ..."
MadCowS - Angels - eXilition - Destiny - Wolfpack - Jenova - p3nguins
Gio2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 24 Mar 2007, 20:19   #2
HellKicker
Fook Yu
Cell-Out Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Looked pal
Posts: 383
HellKicker is a jewel in the roughHellKicker is a jewel in the roughHellKicker is a jewel in the rough
Re: Cluster ETA

Yes, please make one

Although i must say, i dont agree with Gio2k's arguements. Promoting solo and xp play is a good thing, aslong as their advantages does not get too far out of hand, compared to alliance/horde play. It also promotes non-p2p players, which is what we all long for this game to be, aren't we?
__________________
HEROES - It's not cheating if you admit to it
HellKicker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 24 Mar 2007, 21:02   #3
-Blue Moon-
Hello Tietäjä
 
-Blue Moon-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Preston, UK
Posts: 290
-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future-Blue Moon- has a brilliant future
Re: Cluster ETA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio2k
Please make a poll about this point.
I personally think cluster etas are damaging to alliances, and encourage solo and xp play, and should be removed.
i agree with gio2k and would vote for their removal... with alliances the way they are, it does lead to solo players who dont bother defending members outside of their cluster (or at all, which reduces alliances to bg's tbh)... and the inability for alliances to help with certain defence (unless they have players in-cluster). e.g. incluster fi/co eta, and makes for what i call 'stupid' etas in defending which can seriously ruin certain stats, making the balances a bit screwy (e.g in-c destroyers defending against universe fi?).
i say get rid of them, stats have enough problems as it is
__________________
-Blue Moon- aka LordQuashi, Behert, BeherTux, BT, TuxedoMask, tuxed0

R1-2 [VanX] - R3 [Legion] - R4 [Legion/Shogun/FORT] - R5-6 [WP/Shogun/FORT] - R7-8 [VsN] - R9-R9.5 [Seraphim/VsN]- R10-12 [WP] R13 [1up/eXilition] R14 [Orbit/scanner] R15 [eXilition] R16 [Orbit/scanner] R17 [Subh/scanner] R18 [eXilition] R19 [F-Crew/scanner] R20 [Orbit/Destiny/scanner] R21-22 [Orbit/scanner] R23-25 [In-gal-def-ho]

Last edited by -Blue Moon-; 26 Mar 2007 at 13:21.
-Blue Moon- is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Mar 2007, 01:19   #4
Makhil
Registered User
 
Makhil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,663
Makhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to beholdMakhil is a splendid one to behold
Re: Cluster ETA

I'm very happy with the cluster eta. That it favors solo playing is a good point, I don't see why you should have to join an alliance in order to do well.
Everything that shifts the gameplay towards galaxies is good.
I would remove the alliances (or their eta advantage) just one round, I'm sure it would be an improvement.
__________________
<smith> You're 15 and full of shit.
<Furious_George> no, im 22
Makhil is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Mar 2007, 12:41   #5
Heartless
CRASHING BEATS 'N FANTASY
 
Heartless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cold Country.
Posts: 1,912
Heartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like himHeartless is an inspiration to us all and we should try to be more like him
Re: Cluster ETA

Game design ain't a democratic process.
__________________
Ià! Ià! Munin F'tagn! - [*scendancy]
Heartless is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Mar 2007, 13:46   #6
robban1
Registered User
 
robban1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 846
robban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these parts
Re: Cluster ETA

cluster eta sucks and makes allies act as attackgroups more or less i play pa cos of its teamwork within allies but now its just is boring :/
__________________
____________________________

robban1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 25 Mar 2007, 20:11   #7
Cochese
Retired
 
Cochese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: The Back Porch Bar
Posts: 2,593
Cochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond reputeCochese has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cluster ETA

Having cluster alliances was one of the best things about PA back in the day, and many "proper" alliances formed out of previous' rounds cluster alliances.

I don't see how this is a bad thing.
__________________
I'd rather be fishing.

Utterly useless since r3
Cochese is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 00:01   #8
ComradeRob
wasted
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Under the floorboards
Posts: 1,240
ComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriendComradeRob needs a job and a girlfriend
Re: Cluster ETA

The clusters are too small for this to work properly. Either make clusters bigger (minimum 15 galaxies) and possibly make galaxies stronger (larger BPs, larger galaxies), or remove the cluster ETA.
__________________
“They were totally confused,” said the birdman, whose flying suit gives him a passing resemblance to Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story. “The authorities said that I was an unregistered aircraft and to fly, you need a licence. I told them, ‘No. To fly, you need wings’.”
ComradeRob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 00:13   #9
GrandAdm Thrawn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austria
Posts: 130
GrandAdm Thrawn is a jewel in the roughGrandAdm Thrawn is a jewel in the roughGrandAdm Thrawn is a jewel in the roughGrandAdm Thrawn is a jewel in the rough
Re: Cluster ETA

There has been a poll about this already, didnt you realise?
GrandAdm Thrawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 00:32   #10
robban1
Registered User
 
robban1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 846
robban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these partsrobban1 is infamous around these parts
Re: Cluster ETA

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrandAdm Thrawn
There has been a poll about this already, didnt you realise?

where? in the basement with you and the smurfs?
__________________
____________________________

robban1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 00:47   #11
TheMedic
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 5
TheMedic is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Cluster ETA

yea there was a poll where you could vote 1000 times if you wanted, i agree with comraderob and either do away with the in cluster eta's or make the clusters larger.
TheMedic is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 10:39   #12
Wandows
[Vision]
 
Wandows's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 897
Wandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond reputeWandows has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Cluster ETA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cochese
I don't see how this is a bad thing.
The comparison with old rounds isn't really valid. As other mentioned clusters were bigger then and alliances had more control over the clusters due to 'private' galaxies. In the early rounds (at least, from the ones i played, r4+) a galaxy simply belonged to a certain block and teamed with other galaxies in the same cluster to get control over a cluster (which was ofcourse encouraged by alliances as it meant less universal enemies to worry about). But with random placement as it is, you end up having roughly every (alliance/block) part of the universe in your galaxy. And this makes it impossible to mix cluster play with alliance play, as you simply can't organize anything properly on cluster scale without harming either your alliance or galaxy relations.
__________________
[Vision] in a lost dream, contributing to The 5th Element at present
Wandows is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 26 Mar 2007, 13:39   #13
Bane
Shadows and Dust
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Black Bastion
Posts: 329
Bane is on a distinguished road
Re: Cluster ETA

Every cluster just has a useless NAP, c-alliances only truly work now if you have an alliance or block domination the cluster to make it properly work.
__________________
Nick: Swing

R3 or so - Cell/Elysium
Looong break
R20 - Orbit
R21 - Subh (Finished rank 58)
8 year break
R60 - ND -> Ultores (Finished rank 48)
R61 - Rogues

14:05 <Swing> I wear a cape and a burger king paper crown when i play pa
14:10 <Zwanstic> u also talk alot of shit
14:14 <Blue_Esper> you're a weird unit
12:33 <hone> oddr is where we send all the semi retarded and gay bashing ult has beens LOL
12:34 <hone> thats where u should be swing lol
Bane is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 28 Mar 2007, 12:35   #14
Mortal
Crazy fin
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 20
Mortal is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Cluster ETA

cluster eta sucks
__________________
Life is a bitch and hope i die

R14-17 - HR
R17-20 - Omen
R21 - Angels
R22 - Jenova
R23 - Exilition
R24 - Excessum
R25 - TGV
R26 - Denial
R27 - Vision
R28 - Carebears / Asc
R29 - Asc
R30 - Omen
R31 - Asc
R32 - Apprime
R33 - Apprime
R36 - Excessum
R38 - [NFI]
Mortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:51.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2002 - 2018