EMP being used as a car control weapon in the UK.

[pyirt]

Anyone here read about a news story in the Guardian and/or BBC recently regarding the police considering deploying the use of EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) devices in their patrol cars; a car control mechanism to stop get-a-ways.

I raise the following points about its practial deployment:

1)Its use in urban areas; surely EMP will also fry peoples computers and Hi Fi systems etc in nearby houses.
2)What happens if anyone gets zapped accidently when they have a pacemaker fitted?
3)What if the crooks in the get-a-way car have some sort of reflector fitted, and bounce the pulse back to the pursuing cop car?
4)Some modern cars have fibre-optics fitted. EMP not so effective here.
5)Most cars are abit like Faraday cages, and have robust electronics.
6)What if such devices fall into the wrong hands?

Your thoughts on this eh?

[skiddy]

It's silly idea.

[NEWSBOT3]

Originally Posted by pyirt

Anyone here read about a news story in the Guardian and/or BBC recently regarding the police considering deploying the use of EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) devices in their patrol cars; a car control mechanism to stop get-a-ways.

I raise the following points about its practial deployment:

1)Its use in urban areas; surely EMP will also fry peoples computers and Hi Fi systems etc in nearby houses.
2)What happens if anyone gets zapped accidently when they have a pacemaker fitted?
3)What if the crooks in the get-a-way car have some sort of reflector fitted, and bounce the pulse back to the pursuing cop car?
4)Some modern cars have fibre-optics fitted. EMP not so effective here.
5)Most cars are abit like Faraday cages, and have robust electronics.
6)What if such devices fall into the wrong hands?

Your thoughts on this eh?

its not emp in the goldeneye sense

[Nondescript Human]

Wouldn't it be simpler to fit something to cars when they're produced which allows the police to specifically shut the electronics of the car in question?

[MrL_JaKiri]

Originally Posted by NEWSBOT3

its not emp in the goldeneye sense

There is no science but james bond science.

[Tactitus]

Originally Posted by pyirt

Anyone here read about a news story in the Guardian and/or BBC recently regarding the police considering deploying the use of EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) devices in their patrol cars; a car control mechanism to stop get-a-ways.

I raise the following points about its practial deployment:

1)Its use in urban areas; surely EMP will also fry peoples computers and Hi Fi systems etc in nearby houses.

Presumably they'd be using radio frequency pulses instead of actual electromagnetic pulses. RF can be guided whereas EMP cannot.

2)What happens if anyone gets zapped accidently when they have a pacemaker fitted?

That's the beauty of the system--there's no trace. 'Gee, he just keeled over.'

3)What if the crooks in the get-a-way car have some sort of reflector fitted, and bounce the pulse back to the pursuing cop car?

Call in an air strike.

4)Some modern cars have fibre-optics fitted. EMP not so effective here.
5)Most cars are abit like Faraday cages, and have robust electronics.

Presumably car manufacturers will cooperate with Police in producing vehicles that are especially succeptable to such RF pulses.

6)What if such devices fall into the wrong hands?

"If EMP weapons are outlawed; only outlaws will have EMP weapons."

Originally Posted by Nondescript Human

Wouldn't it be simpler to fit something to cars when they're produced which allows the police to specifically shut the electronics of the car in question?

Hush.

[Flayer]

so basically, they freeze the car, so the police can fire first?


PS: kill me

[KaneED]

I had this idea ages ago. I should have written in.


Maybe it'll be like the EMP guns in 2 Fast 2 Furious.

I figured they're just stick a thing on the bumper, but the British police are so poor they don't want to wreck their cars trying to emp a runaway car when he'll most likely crash anyway. For the US police it'd probably be viable because they love smashing their cars up and they actually have some cash to flash unlike our underpaid and under-funded excuse of a police force.

no biase.

[furball]

Originally Posted by Nondescript Human

Wouldn't it be simpler to fit something to cars when they're produced which allows the police to specifically shut the electronics of the car in question?

Think about it, John. "1337 haxors" (as they like to be known) would eventually be able to get hold of the triggers for these cars and wreak hilarious havoc on Britain's roads.

Not good...

[Dead_Meat]

In the US, there's a widely used system that's fitted to cars that are bought with a loan.

Basically, don't pay the monthly payment, and your car gets shut down until you do. I'm sure the police have access to the codes if they need them, so there's your EMP machine right there...

[Sandsnake]

Originally Posted by Dead_Meat

In the US, there's a widely used system that's fitted to cars that are bought with a loan.

Basically, don't pay the monthly payment, and your car gets shut down until you do. I'm sure the police have access to the codes if they need them, so there's your EMP machine right there...

I think you're confusing kill switch alarms for the repo-man.

I've heard talk of this system, but I've never actually seen it in action. I do recall a fair bit of "big brother" outcry over it though.

[Demon Dave]

if they can find a plausable, non-permenant damage occuring way of doing it then i think it would be a good idea. a bit like using the old stinger, only without having to wreck your tyres. You'd want it to only temporaraly fry your car though, otherwise what use would it be when/if you got your car back (assuming it had been stolen in the first place, i'm assuming that most car chases are due to the police chasing car thieves)

[Leshy]

Viper is so 1994.

[SYMM]

In space, they already use this system. If someone nicks off with your Dreadnaught, you just send a few Black-widows after him and he'll be stopped in no time.










I'll get my coat.

[jerome]

Soon the world will turn into Planetarion (r3 preferably).

For Serious.

[vampire_lestat]

the swiss army are actually developing something like this that can temp. stop cars and people dead in their tracks, but they're ok again after! true story.