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Unread 25 May 2003, 02:39   #101
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And there is nothing wrong with elitest, only elitest without ability, known as arogance....
How can you be elite, without abilty??
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Unread 25 May 2003, 05:36   #102
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Its true based on experience.

A Oly / Ldk alliance would be no more the same as r8 than titans and oly is the same alliance.

I know the allegance between titans and ldk relied on a lot of key personel, a lot of whom have retired.
This isn't a titans bashing exercise Ado

maybe I should be a little clearer when I make a silly post, as opposed to when I'm being serious, but then I can't blame anyone for misinterpretting, since most of the time, I can't tell the difference either.

I do find it very interesting to see all the defensive attitudes from a few folks though, and the few pot kettle black comments from others
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Unread 25 May 2003, 05:44   #103
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Originally posted by jonni Maybe its time for Section to get active again too, so we'll get some good oldtime bashing going on.
LOL.. LDK, Section, just add Killmark and we have pretty much ALL the Bot Masters. That would take the universe planet count over 100k alone. Yippee!!
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Unread 25 May 2003, 09:21   #104
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And there is nothing wrong with elitest, only elitest without ability, known as arogance....

Why do people always think its bad to brag... modesty is a choice not a nessesity
Arrogance has to do with being overly convinced of one's own abilities or importance.

The reason people think that it is bad to brag is multi-fold.
First of all, there the fact that the skill differential between the winning players in most rounds, and the losing players, is in fact negligable. The universe has become too small for there to be a significant proportion of low-quality players. Therefor, for winners of say, r8 or r9 to brag of their eliteness on say, AD, IS arrogance. It is to presume that you have some great measure of skill that most of the players don't, which is simply usually not the case.
Second, the players that are bragging most on AD often do it in such a way that they posit far more than even the game statistics (shaky though they may be) would support. These claims range from being smarter than the opposition to being somehow more honorable than the opposition, and even being somehow better people than the opposition.
Third, bragging is poor PR, no matter how you cut it. It irritates just about everyone.

Modesty may be a choice, as you say, but there is a reason almost all major philosophers and thinkers of the past several thousand years have considered it a virtue.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 09:44   #105
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LOL.. LDK, Section, just add Killmark and we have pretty much ALL the Bot Masters. That would take the universe planet count over 100k alone. Yippee!!
Indd quite a coïncidence this revival of LDK as there are free accounts again. I know LDK has good players. But I also know they had a bad reputation. You will be an interesting addition to PA for sure.
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ldk has never been gone... they just didn't say they were around in r9.... big difference...
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Unread 25 May 2003, 15:48   #107
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Indd quite a coïncidence this revival of LDK as there are free accounts again. I know LDK has good players. But I also know they had a bad reputation. You will be an interesting addition to PA for sure.
There's a difference between having a bad reputation and being bad.
Only the first one could be applied to LDK, but that is merely the case if you are shallow enough like Dingo (ie. believing your own fantasies).

But however, LDK getting back has nothing to do with free accounts or whatsoever. People who've known LDK for a while, already knew they'd be back, before the "free accounts" announcement was made.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 16:09   #108
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So Scorpio, you promise that we wont see LKD planets supported by multi-escorts in r9.5?

(if you do, Im impressed, either by your intel or by your foolisness )
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Unread 25 May 2003, 16:46   #109
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Unread 25 May 2003, 17:16   #110
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So Scorpio, you promise that we wont see LKD planets supported by multi-escorts in r9.5?

(if you do, Im impressed, either by your intel or by your foolisness )
brilliant.

i cant find the words to propperly describe how utterly stupid your comment is.

but being bored and annoyed by broken records trolling around on this boards... are you implying that scorpio said LDK would be the first alliance in planetarion without cheaters? because i can assure you, he might have a disturbing taste of music, but he is far away from your level of stupidity.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 17:53   #111
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But however, LDK getting back has nothing to do with free accounts or whatsoever. People who've known LDK for a while, already knew they'd be back, before the "free accounts" announcement was made.
I didnt know, noone can claim they knew. As for them being around for r9 thats not really relevant. They werent around in a form that can truely be linked to LDK. Otherwise its like saying I was around which means Fury is also around still. (this is a deviation from what you are saying and I know this but Im too tired to bother quoting the other guy).

All in all, I find LDK's return amusing (and thats not intended as an offense to anyone). I'll keep why to myself.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 18:02   #112
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You dont get it, and you dont seem to have sence of humour.
Also the question was asked to Scorpio, not to you.
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Unread 25 May 2003, 18:47   #113
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Also the question was asked to Scorpio, not to you.
here's my answer Zhukov:


"brilliant.

i cant find the words to propperly describe how utterly stupid your comment is.

but being bored and annoyed by broken records trolling around on this boards... are you implying that I said LDK would be the first alliance in planetarion without cheaters? because i can assure you, I might have a disturbing taste of music, but I am far away from your level of stupidity."



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Maybe you're right. But somehow I knew they'd be back
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Unread 25 May 2003, 19:01   #114
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when will you come to vienna, btw?

hopefully this summer
July perhaps
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yay! do you already have a place to stay? because i'm sure sastul would love to offer you his comfy couch!
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yay! do you already have a place to stay? because i'm sure sastul would love to offer you his comfy couch!

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Hmm, Sastul's place sounds nice
We could then discuss the future of Xanadu in PA, and check on possibilities to work with LDK
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Hmm, Sastul's place sounds nice
We could then discuss the future of Xanadu in PA, and check on possibilities to work with LDK
sounds like a plan to me!

the only thing that worries me is if we can convince lrytas to join us. he will at least ask us to pay his tickets... :/

which again shows how everything in and around LDK is decided by money, money and money!
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LOL.. LDK, Section, just add Killmark and we have pretty much ALL the Bot Masters. That would take the universe planet count over 100k alone. Yippee!!
Heh, isnt that funny remark. Even funnier is that Killmark was in my galaxy in this round, but I didnt see any bot army escorting him.

But I'm sure that with free accounts there will be quite a few farms next round, and even maybe some fresh new blood. But that doesnt change things overall, most of the top100 planets have been using farms and scanplanets for the last 6 rounds anyways, so maybe game name should be updated from Planetarion to Cheatarion, since everybody seems to 'cheat' to some extend. But as people seem to have gotten used to it, nobody even cares. And besides that they dont want to lose their top100 planet players as they are their best paying customers with multiple planets.

Totally mixed gals are positive thing I think. Round2 was fun because of mixed gals, and gained a lot of new friends too, and its harder to make full farm galaxies when things are mixed. And its also bad for those EVIL blocks that people are complaining about. And as there arent unbeatable super galaxies then average player can enjoy the game also.

On R9 there is 4845 plenets or so, and they continue to R9.5. And I'll assume that of those 4800 planets there are max 3000 real humans with their 'sisters and brothers' from same ip number. Fresh blood is ofcourse nice, lets assume that we would gain 30% more real players, which is quite optimistic or atleast would be good increase monetary for R10. That would be about 900 new human players?? 3900 humans in free round, and as humans are greedy bastards they'll make average of 3 planets... So if we would do math then its something like increase from 4800 to somewhere around 10-15k planets. Ohwell atleast there are more roids to get from. Ofcourse I could be wrong and we will see 100k planets, but I doubt that.

My only hope is that there really would be 30% of new blood for the R10, since then 4800 would increase to somewhere around 6300 paid planets. But even that doesnt pay salary for so many people. But its better than nothing. And hopefully R10 will be totally random also.

On average I have posted on AD once in round and I dont plan to start spamming here in there future either. R9.5 will be mostly just practice for R10. And answer for blocking issue is that we will play with our old and new friends, whatever that means, I'll leave upto you to decide.

For me the main thing for the GAME is to have fun with friends, and not be so bothered with whining hypocrite bastards posting on AD (who dont have real life anyways). But as always you can always blame me if you havent found a girlfriend yet or if you dont have enough roids in your planet.

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damn you jonni!

I saw your name as 'last poster' in this thread, and was hoping you were announcing the return of section.
Didnt expect you to give dingo some attention
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damn you jonni!

I saw your name as 'last poster' in this thread, and was hoping you were announcing the return of section.
Didnt expect you to give dingo some attention
Well 'return' of Section was kinda announced on page2 of this thread allready... Oh, boy, gave you some attention too.

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Well 'return' of Section was kinda announced on page2 of this thread allready... Oh, boy, gave you some attention too.

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But I deserve it
Didn't know that announcement was for real though ... Thought you were just joking
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So Scorpio, you promise that we wont see LKD planets supported by multi-escorts in r9.5?

(if you do, Im impressed, either by your intel or by your foolisness )
And can anyone promise that we will not see any escorts from 'evil' side like Eclipse etc, as it was when we attacked Kileman in r7 ? I can really remember about 15-20 free accounts deffing him.
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I doubt that either side will be able to use multi/flak/farm planets much in r9.5. News scans will be available from tick 1, so people who are farming should be caught very easily.
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News scans will be available from tick 1, so people who are farming should be caught very easily.

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ldk has never been gone... they just didn't say they were around in r9.... big difference...
yes they just put all their members into other alliances and then worked together anyway, heck some of them even went into officer / hc positions.

If only I was being sarcastic now, i'd feel a lot better.

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still I'm sure with all those collection of selfish attitudes you'll be right at home

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And can anyone promise that we will not see any escorts from 'evil' side like Eclipse etc, as it was when we attacked Kileman in r7 ? I can really remember about 15-20 free accounts deffing him.
uhm and how does Kileman actually connect to eclipse ?

Eclipse didnt exist in r7, Kileman stopped playing r8, Eclipse was created r9.

P.S. Kileman had in r7 85-90 defending fleets surely 15 of those would be a huge surprise ?


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Zhil, your english is slipping. To people who didn't know you better this may come across as "If I didn't know then noone else did, because I know everything".

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I doubt that either side will be able to use multi/flak/farm planets much in r9.5. News scans will be available from tick 1, so people who are farming should be caught very easily.
Plus, people should defend their galaxy mates, so any farms should be defended. A benefit of random rounds.

I'll certainly be reporting any 'dodgy' planets in my galaxy, as well. As should everyone else. Hopefully the multi-hunting and people responsible for deleting cheats will be more on the ball, however, I'm betting they arn't. They don't want to scare too many people away from round 10 now, do they?
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Hopefully the multi-hunting and people responsible for deleting cheats will be more on the ball, however, I'm betting they arn't. They don't want to scare too many people away from round 10 now, do they?
If they let anyone reported with plenty of evidence for cheating win the round then that will deter a good deal of decent players as well.

I'm almost tempted to start a cheat planet to see if they spot it (off course if they didn't I would suicide on a real cheater rather than keep the gain from it) but I h8 the idea that they might not catch me and I'd be ruining someone else's round by doing so.

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Hopefully the multi-hunting and people responsible for deleting cheats will be more on the ball, however, I'm betting they arn't. They don't want to scare too many people away from round 10 now, do they?
Who would that be ? Spinner alone ?
I actually think they wont bother at all just because its the last "old" round and they plan to implement all the 1337 changes in round 10.
R9.5 is just a bait round to keep the ppl happy until the real game is on the market (no judging the quality of the real game yet )
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I'm almost tempted to start a cheat planet to see if they spot it (off course if they didn't I would suicide on a real cheater rather than keep the gain from it) but I h8 the idea that they might not catch me and I'd be ruining someone else's round by doing so.

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RL friend of mine ran 2 planets. i reported them both, they actually helped each other, nothing was done. I dont know what spinner and his crew else wanted maybe the login info ?
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And can anyone promise that we will not see any escorts from 'evil' side like Eclipse etc, as it was when we attacked Kileman in r7 ? I can really remember about 15-20 free accounts deffing him.
I am not sure how LDK - the masters of 2-3mil free planets with purely fighter fleets defending en masse - dares to comment on this. It is hypocrisy on a greater level than any previously seen within PA, which is REALLY saying something.
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Im not quite sure Ive seen that article of TGC, is it near the part where it says "Thou shalt not build a machine in the shape of a human mind" or is it next to the article on not using Atomics on Humans?
Hrmmmm, I thought I had explained it a bit better and put it in more context. Never mind

The point of that reference was more to do with the response to the use of atomics - i.e. - if one uses them, all others will effectively join together and flatten them with any and all means - other arguments and differences will temporarily be forgotten to ensure that justice is dealt in order to keep to the great convention.
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I am not sure how LDK - the masters of 2-3mil free planets with purely fighter fleets defending en masse - dares to comment on this. It is hypocrisy on a greater level than any previously seen within PA, which is REALLY saying something.
hehe
coming from a former Fury member, telling others are hypocrits... now that's hypocrisy
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this unproven imputations getting more and more boring ...
if u find somebody deal with it the regular way and then u can shout here. but in the past u never managed to get a proof so **** off with your bull**** posts.
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coming from a former Fury member, telling others are hypocrits... now that's hypocrisy
I fail to understand your point. If you consider me to be a hypocrit, then it is more irony than hypocrisy - but I fail to see how I am a hypocrit. I never said whether or not fury did the things suggested by Lyrtas, I merely pointed out that he is not the person to be complaining as seeing as LDK are the gods of 2-3mil score free planets. I am basing this purely on what I myself have seen.

I did not comment on whether or not fury did it round 7 as I was very inactive that round, and freely admit I don't know, however, I would suspect they didn't.

But please, do me a favour and explain to me why calling someone else a hypocrit makes me a hypocrit, as I am utterly baffled.
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But please, do me a favour and explain to me why calling someone else a hypocrit makes me a hypocrit, as I am utterly baffled.
in your opinion LDK are cheaters. therefore you call lrytas a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

in scorpio's opinion fury are cheaters. therefore he calls you a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

easy enough?
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I am not sure how LDK - the masters of 2-3mil free planets with purely fighter fleets defending en masse - dares to comment on this. It is hypocrisy on a greater level than any previously seen within PA, which is REALLY saying something.

LOL and lol and lol. Fury never had 2-3 mil FI fleets ))))). I wish i had all my PA files. Shame my bro have formatted comp without telkling me anyhing. I remember very good when i saw top 5 defending galaxies. 1st galaxy top 50, 2nd top 200, 3rd top 500 etc ... So stop being very 'cool'.
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LOL and lol and lol. Fury never had 2-3 mil FI fleets ))))). I wish i had all my PA files. Shame my bro have formatted comp without telkling me anyhing. I remember very good when i saw top 5 defending galaxies. 1st galaxy top 50, 2nd top 200, 3rd top 500 etc ... So stop being very 'cool'.
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I never once said anything about fury when I made my post, that was Scorpio, and if you check, you will see that I said I do not know if fury cheated in this way. I do however know that LDK did, which does make you a hypocrit.
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in your opinion LDK are cheaters. therefore you call lrytas a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

in scorpio's opinion fury are cheaters. therefore he calls you a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

easy enough?
I cirticised the criticism, not the cheating, hence this does not apply.
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in your opinion LDK are cheaters. therefore you call lrytas a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

in scorpio's opinion fury are cheaters. therefore he calls you a hypocrit for critizising other cheaters.

easy enough?
no... that's not it.

perhaps my point indeed was closer to irony
it's such a thin line between irony and hypocrisy sometimes.
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on the own side the eyes are closed or?
My eyes were quite open when I was there, but I wasn't during r7, and during r8 I was a military officer, and I never sent anything like that myself, but I wouldn't know if other people did. I personally saw no evidence of it.
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