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KoeN · 29 Jun 2005, 11:11

as every summer i will spend 3 weeks in front of my TV, watching 'le Tour' . it starts next saturday with a time-trial over 19km.
again i signed up to various 'tourgames', together with 10.000's other people all over the country. the game-element just gives another dimension to watching, especially when many friends, colleagues and relatives do this aswell.
the last days i've been puzzling on my 'ideal selection of 20 drivers'. and now i've finished it:

1. Armstrong
2. Ullrich
3. Vinokourov
4. Menchov
5. Boonen
6. McEwen
7. Rogers
8. O'Grady
9. Basso
10. Mancebo
11. Mayo
12. Cooke
13. Hushovd
14. Azevedo
15. J.P. Nazon
16. Valverde
17. Landis
18. Eisel
19. Karpets
20. Pereiro Sio

Substitutes
1. Botero
2. Kirchen
3. Totschnig
4. McGee
5. Kloden

Winner yellow: Vinokourov
Winner green: Hushovd
Winner bolls: Rasmussen

if you are into cycling, please comment. i'm curious about your opinion.

Knight Theamion · 29 Jun 2005, 12:28

You are missing Aitor Gonzales

AND Joost Posthuma

Winner: Armstrong
Green: Boonen
Bolls: Rasmussen

roadrunner_0 · 29 Jun 2005, 12:32

what is the point of that selection? is it the best 20? or who you believe would be your 'dream team'
you have a lto of individuals there, not sure how good a team they would make

i do think that lance armstrong is going to win it again though

EDIT: due to various things i really haven't had time to have a good look at the build up this year, however, the official site (letour.fr) is even shitter that normal and has the grand total of NO ****ing useful information

Knight Theamion · 29 Jun 2005, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadrunner_0

what is the point of that selection? is it the best 20? or who you believe would be your 'dream team'
you have a lto of individuals there, not sure how good a team they would make

i do think that lance armstrong is going to win it again though

it's a selection for a game where you select a cyclists who you think are going to score the most 'points' .. points for a victory, points for every day in the general classement, points for ze mountains etc

KoeN · 29 Jun 2005, 12:44

Hans:

Aitor Gonzalez isn't even competing.
i hope Posthuma does well ofc, but i'm already happy if he even reaches Paris.

rr:

this is my team for the game that a local newspaper organises every year. about 4000 people where joining last year if i remember well.
every day they keep score for everyone. you can win prizes per day, but the best prizes are for the overall rankings ofc.
so many people go for a day-victory and make teams that only consist out of specialists. i always make a mixed team as that's the most fun to play and gives you best chances on a high endranking.

the pointsystem goes like this:

#1 = 30 pts
#2 = 26
#3 = 22
#4 = 19
#5 = 17
#6 = 15
and then countdown to rank #20, which gives 1 point.

you get 10 points per day that you have the yellow jersey in your team.

-12 points for a driver that quits.

50 points per correct prediction on the endrankings for the yellow/green/bolls jersey.

a top20 endrank doubles the amount of points the driver has received during the races!

oh and the subs only get in when drivers don't start the first race. they don't replace drivers during the Tour itself.

roadrunner_0 · 29 Jun 2005, 12:45

cheers, though it was something like that, but wasn't sure. It would help if i had any decent info

do you two have any links to the teams this year (i can guess most of them) and the actual course route (like they did last year) would be a help

KoeN · 29 Jun 2005, 12:46

team-selections for this year.:

http://www.cycling4all.com/index.php...t=r05rvf0t.php

roadmap:

http://members.home.nl/alan.smeets/t...uteschema.html

specific info about mountain-races:

http://members.home.nl/alan.smeets/t...rgetappes.html

Knight Theamion · 29 Jun 2005, 13:02

First 8 days flatbed? then 5 heavy ones and then another one ... I think that even petacchi can get over those mountains

roadrunner_0 · 29 Jun 2005, 13:06

your a ****ing star Koen!

up to 15... not vastly different from you but some differences although i have taken no notice for the past year really so i dont know some of the things as well as i should

KoeN · 29 Jun 2005, 13:23

Hans: Petacchi isn't competing aswell, just as Freire btw. maybe you now see why i have Eisel.

the best combination is probably 11/12 people for the mountains and/or time-trials (read: endrankings) and 8/9 sprinters. also pay attention to what kind of people can win the first race, since it's not very likely the holder of the yellow jersey will change the first week. (= about 70 points).

oh and i forgot to tell a top20 endrank doubles the amount of points a driver has received during the races.

btw rr: on that site they also show day to day top10 ranks for 2003 and 2004.
further relative info can be found in results of the round of Switserland + Dauphine Liberee.

Nadar · 29 Jun 2005, 13:43

I'm usually following it on the TV aswell. Quite 'funny' when there's a big field of people and the first man falls taking the others with him

What I find really exciting about it is when there's like 2-3 people far ahead of the others and when some people from the big group tries to catch up on them before goal

KoeN · 29 Jun 2005, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nadar

What I find really exciting about it is when there's like 2-3 people far ahead of the others and when some people from the big group tries to catch up on them before goal

it's all about tactical gameplay. they usually count a minute per 10km to get back on people ahead. to avoid more people escaping from the big group, sprintteams usually let the first group 'swim' ahead, to catch them back the last 5km.

onetwothree · 29 Jun 2005, 14:07

cycloling

Nadar · 29 Jun 2005, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoeN

it's all about tactical gameplay. they usually count a minute per 10km to get back on people ahead. to avoid more people escaping from the big group, sprintteams usually let the first group 'swim' ahead, to catch them back the last 5km.

Which is also what makes the sport so exciting

It's not just about 'cycling' as many might think.

acropolis · 29 Jun 2005, 15:49

i predict armstrong loses.

Reidy · 1 Jul 2005, 01:07

i need a bigger aeri\l to get the tour live. Think Baso will be closest to lance... cant wait

Yahwe · 1 Jul 2005, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoeN

as every summer i will spend 3 weeks in front of my TV, watching 'le Tour' .

hmmmm

i see

one question

is there any way we can make the cycle race last longer?

bout 52 weeks would be good.

dda · 1 Jul 2005, 04:28

I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.

KoeN · 1 Jul 2005, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahwe

hmmmm

i see

one question

is there any way we can make the cycle race last longer?

bout 52 weeks would be good.

haha yahwe is a faggot!!!!!11

Flayer · 1 Jul 2005, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by dda

I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.

Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude

Nadar · 1 Jul 2005, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by dda

I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.

What's a letter carrier?

Edit: Nevermind, stupid me.

roadrunner_0 · 1 Jul 2005, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flayer

Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude

probably in the USPS ongoing drive to cut costs, it costs a surprisingly large amount to run a cycling team apparently

dda · 1 Jul 2005, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flayer

Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude

Like I said, I know nothing about cycling.
Now I have proved it.
Vindication!

skiddy · 2 Jul 2005, 12:58

**** me, I'm electronically surrounded by lycra wearing riding faggots

at0mic.c0w · 2 Jul 2005, 13:15

so what's this year's drug of choice ?

roadrunner_0 · 2 Jul 2005, 13:29

every rider has been tested before the start of the race this year, all have come back negative.

Knight Theamion · 2 Jul 2005, 14:07

it is almost starting!

KoeN · 4 Jul 2005, 13:12

http://live.cyclingnews.com/

live news there.

btw Hans:

12:54 CEST
There's another counter: Joost Posthuma (Rabobank), another young and very talented rider, is in pursuit.

13:00 CEST 15km/197.5km to go
But Posthuma can't make it, the bunch is too fast. Gilbert is also caught, only a few moments later. Peloton groupé.

attacking already!

Knight Theamion · 4 Jul 2005, 14:58

Yeah, he's my hero

roadrunner_0 · 4 Jul 2005, 17:40

you know, i like the tour, but hans, you worry even me :/

Knight Theamion · 4 Jul 2005, 21:02

he's an old classmate of me, ofcourse i support him

and I like the fact that Dekker got bolls today

KoeN · 5 Jul 2005, 14:12

hm

at the tourtoto of the newspaper i'm now ranked #1983 (out of +11.500).
at the tourtoto of the office i'm now ranked #31 (out of 157).

since i don't have pure sprintteams in both games, i think i'm doing rather well so far.

i'm about the only guy that gambled on Eisel, the guy that ended #4 yesterday. maybe i can win some prizes this summer.

Knight Theamion · 5 Jul 2005, 15:02

like?

KoeN · 5 Jul 2005, 15:05

http://www.tctubantia.nl/regioportal...ellen!,00.html <-- 'prijzen'

there.

(or i can win money in the small toto).

Radical Edward · 5 Jul 2005, 15:24

who is up for a tour de france deadpool?