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29 Jun 2005, 11:11
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Tour de France 2005
as every summer i will spend 3 weeks in front of my TV, watching 'le Tour' . it starts next saturday with a time-trial over 19km.
again i signed up to various 'tourgames', together with 10.000's other people all over the country. the game-element just gives another dimension to watching, especially when many friends, colleagues and relatives do this aswell.
the last days i've been puzzling on my 'ideal selection of 20 drivers'. and now i've finished it:
1. Armstrong
2. Ullrich
3. Vinokourov
4. Menchov
5. Boonen
6. McEwen
7. Rogers
8. O'Grady
9. Basso
10. Mancebo
11. Mayo
12. Cooke
13. Hushovd
14. Azevedo
15. J.P. Nazon
16. Valverde
17. Landis
18. Eisel
19. Karpets
20. Pereiro Sio
Substitutes
1. Botero
2. Kirchen
3. Totschnig
4. McGee
5. Kloden
Winner yellow: Vinokourov
Winner green: Hushovd
Winner bolls: Rasmussen
if you are into cycling, please comment. i'm curious about your opinion.
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29 Jun 2005, 12:28
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Miles Teg
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Re: Tour de France 2005
You are missing Aitor Gonzales
AND Joost Posthuma
Winner: Armstrong
Green: Boonen
Bolls: Rasmussen
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29 Jun 2005, 12:32
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Re: Tour de France 2005
what is the point of that selection? is it the best 20? or who you believe would be your 'dream team'
you have a lto of individuals there, not sure how good a team they would make
i do think that lance armstrong is going to win it again though
EDIT: due to various things i really haven't had time to have a good look at the build up this year, however, the official site (letour.fr) is even shitter that normal and has the grand total of NO ****ing useful information
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29 Jun 2005, 12:37
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner_0
what is the point of that selection? is it the best 20? or who you believe would be your 'dream team'
you have a lto of individuals there, not sure how good a team they would make
i do think that lance armstrong is going to win it again though
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it's a selection for a game where you select a cyclists who you think are going to score the most 'points' .. points for a victory, points for every day in the general classement, points for ze mountains etc
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29 Jun 2005, 12:44
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Hans:
Aitor Gonzalez isn't even competing.
i hope Posthuma does well ofc, but i'm already happy if he even reaches Paris.
rr:
this is my team for the game that a local newspaper organises every year. about 4000 people where joining last year if i remember well.
every day they keep score for everyone. you can win prizes per day, but the best prizes are for the overall rankings ofc.
so many people go for a day-victory and make teams that only consist out of specialists. i always make a mixed team as that's the most fun to play and gives you best chances on a high endranking.
the pointsystem goes like this:
#1 = 30 pts
#2 = 26
#3 = 22
#4 = 19
#5 = 17
#6 = 15
and then countdown to rank #20, which gives 1 point.
you get 10 points per day that you have the yellow jersey in your team.
-12 points for a driver that quits.
50 points per correct prediction on the endrankings for the yellow/green/bolls jersey.
a top20 endrank doubles the amount of points the driver has received during the races!
oh and the subs only get in when drivers don't start the first race. they don't replace drivers during the Tour itself.
Last edited by KoeN; 29 Jun 2005 at 13:24.
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29 Jun 2005, 12:45
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Re: Tour de France 2005
cheers, though it was something like that, but wasn't sure. It would help if i had any decent info
do you two have any links to the teams this year (i can guess most of them) and the actual course route (like they did last year) would be a help
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29 Jun 2005, 12:46
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29 Jun 2005, 13:02
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Miles Teg
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Re: Tour de France 2005
First 8 days flatbed? then 5 heavy ones and then another one ... I think that even petacchi can get over those mountains
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29 Jun 2005, 13:06
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Re: Tour de France 2005
your a ****ing star Koen!
up to 15... not vastly different from you but some differences although i have taken no notice for the past year really so i dont know some of the things as well as i should
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29 Jun 2005, 13:23
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Hans: Petacchi isn't competing aswell, just as Freire btw. maybe you now see why i have Eisel.
the best combination is probably 11/12 people for the mountains and/or time-trials (read: endrankings) and 8/9 sprinters. also pay attention to what kind of people can win the first race, since it's not very likely the holder of the yellow jersey will change the first week. (= about 70 points).
oh and i forgot to tell a top20 endrank doubles the amount of points a driver has received during the races.
btw rr: on that site they also show day to day top10 ranks for 2003 and 2004.
further relative info can be found in results of the round of Switserland + Dauphine Liberee.
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29 Jun 2005, 13:43
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Re: Tour de France 2005
I'm usually following it on the TV aswell. Quite 'funny' when there's a big field of people and the first man falls taking the others with him
What I find really exciting about it is when there's like 2-3 people far ahead of the others and when some people from the big group tries to catch up on them before goal
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29 Jun 2005, 14:02
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadar
What I find really exciting about it is when there's like 2-3 people far ahead of the others and when some people from the big group tries to catch up on them before goal
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it's all about tactical gameplay. they usually count a minute per 10km to get back on people ahead. to avoid more people escaping from the big group, sprintteams usually let the first group 'swim' ahead, to catch them back the last 5km.
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29 Jun 2005, 14:07
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Re: Tour de France 2005
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29 Jun 2005, 15:17
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Re: Tour de France 2005
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Originally Posted by KoeN
it's all about tactical gameplay. they usually count a minute per 10km to get back on people ahead. to avoid more people escaping from the big group, sprintteams usually let the first group 'swim' ahead, to catch them back the last 5km.
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Which is also what makes the sport so exciting It's not just about 'cycling' as many might think.
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29 Jun 2005, 15:49
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Re: Tour de France 2005
i predict armstrong loses.
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1 Jul 2005, 01:07
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Re: Tour de France 2005
i need a bigger aeri\l to get the tour live. Think Baso will be closest to lance... cant wait
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1 Jul 2005, 01:11
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Re: Tour de France 2005
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Originally Posted by KoeN
as every summer i will spend 3 weeks in front of my TV, watching 'le Tour' .
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hmmmm
i see
one question
is there any way we can make the cycle race last longer?
bout 52 weeks would be good.
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1 Jul 2005, 04:28
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Re: Tour de France 2005
I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.
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1 Jul 2005, 13:50
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yahwe
hmmmm
i see
one question
is there any way we can make the cycle race last longer?
bout 52 weeks would be good.
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haha yahwe is a faggot!!!!!11
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1 Jul 2005, 14:40
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by dda
I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.
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Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude
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1 Jul 2005, 14:41
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by dda
I know nothing about cycling but cheer for the US Postal Team since I was a letter carrier for a number of years.
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What's a letter carrier?
Edit: Nevermind, stupid me.
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1 Jul 2005, 15:25
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cynic
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Re: Tour de France 2005
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Originally Posted by Flayer
Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude
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probably in the USPS ongoing drive to cut costs, it costs a surprisingly large amount to run a cycling team apparently
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1 Jul 2005, 18:50
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flayer
Seems like they changed names to Discovery Channel dude
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Like I said, I know nothing about cycling.
Now I have proved it.
Vindication!
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2 Jul 2005, 12:58
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Re: Tour de France 2005
**** me, I'm electronically surrounded by lycra wearing riding faggots
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2 Jul 2005, 13:15
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Re: Tour de France 2005
so what's this year's drug of choice ?
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2 Jul 2005, 13:29
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Re: Tour de France 2005
every rider has been tested before the start of the race this year, all have come back negative.
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2 Jul 2005, 14:07
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Re: Tour de France 2005
it is almost starting!
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4 Jul 2005, 13:12
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Re: Tour de France 2005
http://live.cyclingnews.com/
live news there.
btw Hans:
12:54 CEST
There's another counter: Joost Posthuma (Rabobank), another young and very talented rider, is in pursuit.
13:00 CEST 15km/197.5km to go
But Posthuma can't make it, the bunch is too fast. Gilbert is also caught, only a few moments later. Peloton groupé.
attacking already!
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4 Jul 2005, 14:58
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Re: Tour de France 2005
Yeah, he's my hero
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4 Jul 2005, 17:40
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Re: Tour de France 2005
you know, i like the tour, but hans, you worry even me :/
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4 Jul 2005, 21:02
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Re: Tour de France 2005
he's an old classmate of me, ofcourse i support him
and I like the fact that Dekker got bolls today
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5 Jul 2005, 14:12
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Re: Tour de France 2005
hm
at the tourtoto of the newspaper i'm now ranked #1983 (out of +11.500).
at the tourtoto of the office i'm now ranked #31 (out of 157).
since i don't have pure sprintteams in both games, i think i'm doing rather well so far.
i'm about the only guy that gambled on Eisel, the guy that ended #4 yesterday. maybe i can win some prizes this summer.
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Re: Tour de France 2005
like?
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5 Jul 2005, 15:24
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Re: Tour de France 2005
who is up for a tour de france deadpool?
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