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Unread 10 Dec 2003, 16:33   #1
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Question A serious question to PA Team

Just now, something really strange happened in #forums, involving NB3.

Here is the link to the log file: http://www.nightwish-fanclub.de/foru...2.2003.log.txt

Now I have a few questions:

1) Why is NB3 openly discussing the issue of a closed planet in a channel with people other than the closed planet? (It does not count how far, he gave out certain details as you can see ("i've seen the logs ..."))
2) Why can NB3 as a PA Team member openly call people "you ****" or "cheating bastard" and kick them with a reason like "I am on holiday you ****, now piss off".

I hope this won't be tolerated by MrBrick as well, I have agreed on being suspended from PA Team for cheating in previous rounds. But dealing with paying customers like this is just throwing a bad light as I have thrown on PA Team. Will there be any actions taken now?
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

After he boasted openly about closing the "cheating FAnG scum" for farming (which NB3 didnt wanted to tell me in pm even....) I just wanted to know how he was meant to know I was attacked by members of my alliance as well.... A2 posted, that multihunter would not be able to see ingame alliances of planets...

So Phil and NB3 are using an Arbiter ? .. I cant remember to have given em access to ours
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

They can't - however members lists for the alliances are quite easy to come by

and i don't mean through official channels (as anything provided to us officially stays private)
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

Heartless, for the love of god, get a life.
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

NIce to see that both PA team and community members are as mature as ever

PA team members shouldn't make such comments, whether on holiday or not. Simple as that. They should also be able to avoid discussing matters like that with more subtlety. Being on holiday is no excuse, they should still be professional. cting like a 12 year old kid with a temper is not appropriate.

Then again, I don't think that 'baiting' PA team in the way that was done by Heartless and LEFF was entirely appropriate. Somewhat immature I suspect. If you want your concerns/complaints to be taken seriously, you should approach them with a little more maturity.
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They can't - however members lists for the alliances are quite easy to come by

and i don't mean through official channels (as anything provided to us officially stays private)
[OFFTOPIC] I would be interested in how you get alliance lists when you cannot get them from in-game (which you can, though).
Also, can you fix the domain for the forums to point to .planetarion.com so I do not have to open IE for it? :-)[/OFFTOPIC]
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

From what i saw the Fang members in the channel brought up the whole topic and harassed NB3 about it all. You deserve everything you get if you going to go about abusing him.

If you want to discuss the while matter with people, take it to PM with a multihunter rather than sprouting crap in an unofficial channel.

I think that covers everything.
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

for the record no member of the pateam has officially commented on this yet, will discuss it later. though tbh worse has been done.
i also think bearing in mind that alliances have been ripping the shit out of nb3 for the past few days, his letting off a little team can be expected

Heartless - yes will fix the .planetarion thing (didn't used to work which is why we have never used it)
and as to the alliance thing, generally every alliance has a reasonable copy of their enemies memberslists
so its called asking
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

For the record we also have a list of alliance members generated byt the toolkit dumps
however only mit has access to these
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

#forums is not, has never been, and will never be an official channel of any sort (i think mushroom had a heart attack when someone suggested making it official). The reason people tell you to go there to sort out issues with the forums is that it's a non-keyed channel where a high number of mods can be found. If we were all complete faggots and talked in #teen you'd be recommended to go there. If you came to the channel to bother someone, regardless of who they are, I would have kicked you myself.
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Re: A serious question to PA Team

Right after cleaning up of the flames i'll reopen the thread. Dont let it deteriorate into a flame fest this time or it will get closed and stay closed.


With regards to the topic of the thread. I was in the channel at the time and noticed that NB3 was being harassed. He had told those asking that he was 'on holiday' and so wouldnt deal with the matter. At that point the people requesting info should have given up and gone to look for an active multi-hunter, but they didnt they continued harassing him, which is when he lost his head slightly. Yes he probably shouldnt have been so abusive, but from what i saw it was 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Everyone is human, i dont know anyone that could take the amount of hassle NB3 has had this last week or so and not snap at some point. Please dont make a mountain out of a mole hill.

If NB3 hadnt started banning people at that point i was about to warn them to stop moaning at him or get removed from the channel.
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I wish Heartless would go on holiday. A long one where he has no net access.
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Why stop at 2 weeks? Extend it and stay for Easter !


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i also think bearing in mind that alliances have been ripping the shit out of nb3 for the past few days, his letting off a little team can be expected
He got a job as a pa-team member, he shall not let any (s)team out, he shall act profesionally, even though he is on a vacation(in front of his comp). If he isnt capable to do so, he should resign or be kicked from his position.
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Yep, i closed it in the first place because it was damn obvious it was just going to be a load of flames. God knows why i was persuaded to ignore my gut instinct and reopen it.

Anyways, you got your chance for the thread to be reopened Heartless, and hopefully you can see now, there is no potential for discission in this thread as i said in the first place.
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