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22 Oct 2004, 09:37
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Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...316762666.html
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Japanese electronics giant NEC Corp., said on Wednesday it has begun selling the world's fastest supercomputer.
NEC claimed its SX-8 is the most powerful 'vector-type' supercomputer, with a sustainable data processing speed well beyond IBM's recently unveiled Blue Gene/L supercomputer.
In September IBM said its Blue Gene/L supercomputer had surpassed NEC's Earth Simulator to become the world's most powerful supercomputer.
IBM's Blue Gene/L is capable of a sustained data processing speed of 36.01 teraflops, or one trillion floating point operations per second.
NEC said its newest SX series model has a peak processing speed of 65 teraflops and a sustainable performance of roughly 90 percent that speed or 58.5 teraflops.
The NEC and IBM supercomputers are different in structure. NEC says its SX-8, because of its vector architecture, "delivers much higher sustained performance than scalar supercomputers" like IBM's Blue Gene/L.
"We have received 100 orders so far," with the first models to be shipped to the UK's national weather forecasting service and the High Performance Computing Centre in Stuttgart, Germany, NEC managing director Tadao Kondo said.
The Tokyo-based electronics maker aims to sell or rent 700 models in the first three years.
The monthly rental fee for the SX-8 is a minimum ¥1.17 million ($US10,730) and the purchase price is ¥130 million.
Supercomputers are widely used to develop coplex products like new airplanes, automobiles and drugs.
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*On condition of Carlisle winning a Treble, Sunday not causing any arguments, Hell freezing over and Zeus spelling 'Constantinople' backwards
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22 Oct 2004, 09:56
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Insomniac
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
you forgot the "correctly" part to the zeus spelling
Seriously tho, pa has been much more stable then it was in the past, surely you`d agree with that
and - expensive and fast hardware, a stable system does not make
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22 Oct 2004, 10:00
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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Originally Posted by Phil^
you forgot the "correctly" part to the zeus spelling
Seriously tho, pa has been much more stable then it was in the past, surely you`d agree with that
and - expensive and fast hardware, a stable system does not make
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I can't agree seeing I don't play, and, tbh, don't care
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22 Oct 2004, 10:20
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Henry Kelly
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
How is 36.01 teraflops equal to 1 trillion floating point operations/s?
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22 Oct 2004, 10:30
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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Originally Posted by pablissimo
How is 36.01 teraflops equal to 1 trillion floating point operations/s?
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I think they were just explaining the teraflops part
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22 Oct 2004, 10:34
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
Whats PA?
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22 Oct 2004, 12:17
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
It might be up to scratch in the 'simulate 1-X' department.
I've always talked about replacing him with a machine :P
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22 Oct 2004, 13:10
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
why in gods name would anyone buy one of those when the monthly rental costs ~1/110th the purchase price? do people really think this is the computer they will want for the next 15-20 years?
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22 Oct 2004, 17:46
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
You don't need them for most engineering related tasks anymore, the general computing market has developed to such an extent that CFD/FEA can be accomplished with off the shelf stuff.
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22 Oct 2004, 18:40
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Henry Kelly
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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Originally Posted by Summanus
I think they were just explaining the teraflops part
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Oh now I see it. Evidentally my brain's too addled to cope with commas =(
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22 Oct 2004, 21:28
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Klaatu barada nikto
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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Originally Posted by acropolis
why in gods name would anyone buy one of those when the monthly rental costs ~1/110th the purchase price? do people really think this is the computer they will want for the next 15-20 years?
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Heh. It'll be obsolete in 5 years anyway.
That kind of computing power is of interest only to those who absolutely have to have the (hopefully right) answer ASAP. Weather prediction, aircraft design, cryptography, etc.
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22 Oct 2004, 21:56
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share the <3
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
/\ they don't need supercomputers for aircraft design, regardless what the internet says
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22 Oct 2004, 22:24
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wild one
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
If I had that money, I'd buy one and use it only for internal DNS resolution on my network of nine PC's and two Apple's.
I'd do that and then tell NEC just to upset them.
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22 Oct 2004, 22:30
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
teraflops is such a cool word
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22 Oct 2004, 22:52
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wild one
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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Originally Posted by Embroglio
teraflops is such a cool word
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Teraflops live for like 200 years, innit.
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23 Oct 2004, 09:14
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
according to the site i read, when the IBM one is finished next year, it will have a higher sustained teraflop calcula\tion rate than the NEC one and be cheaper.
EDIT
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10...sx8_beats_ibm/
and i tell a lie, not cheaper, but consumes a hell of a lot less power
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23 Oct 2004, 09:29
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
If it can't get me my ****ing breakfast I'm not interested.
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23 Oct 2004, 10:35
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
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If it can't get me my ****ing breakfast I'm not interested.
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Sounds like you need a wench
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23 Oct 2004, 11:08
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Re: Does anyone have a spare ¥130 million?
In 20 years time we'll all be talking in teraflops too
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