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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 20:58   #1
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hmmm what do we have here?

<@vampzZzZz> btw, i'm ely if anyone hadnt figured that out yet
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<@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
<@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def
<@Ronnie> cos its ecl inc
<@Ronnie> ofc
<@Ronnie> sos
<@vampzZzZz> i just checked
<@vampzZzZz> :/
<@Ronnie> but wait, u dont hav relations.....
<@Ronnie> :\
<@Ronnie> weird
<@vampzZzZz> indeed


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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:03   #2
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

dum dum dum

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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:15   #3
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

maybe he is dyslexic
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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:16   #4
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

Eclipse and Elysium in Co-operation non shocker

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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:29   #5
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

Comedy "Posting IRC logs is against the rules" option
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

An Elysium member not being allowed to defend a Fang planet?
Yes, thats conclusive proof ...

Jesus, even jurgen is better at AD than this.
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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:32   #7
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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An Elysium member not being allowed to defend a Fang planet?
Yes, thats conclusive proof ...
not the entire point, ie the fact they didnt hav inc in the first place as well as the fact ely members r banned from defending eclipse incoming.

my gal doesnt only hav fang in but vampz wasnt allowed to defend the none fang with eclipse incomin either......

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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 21:39   #8
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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An Elysium member not being allowed to defend a Fang planet?
Yes, thats conclusive proof ...

Jesus, even jurgen is better at AD than this.
Dont worry about them nasty blocking noobs mate :beer:

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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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not the entire point, ie the fact they didnt hav inc in the first place as well as the fact ely members r banned from defending eclipse incoming.
Your log doesn't say Ely members are banned from defending eclipse incoming. It says the Ely member wasn't allowed to def a (Fang?) planet. You came up with the idea that it's because the attacker was eclipse.
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Your log doesn't say Ely members are banned from defending eclipse incoming. It says the Ely member wasn't allowed to def a (Fang?) planet. You came up with the idea that it's because the attacker was eclipse.
<@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
<@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def

there isnt 1 mention of FAnG planets in my log, i wudda been content with vampz (whos the GC i might add) defending any of the planets not fang, for the good of the gal etc.
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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 22:14   #11
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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Your log doesn't say Ely members are banned from defending eclipse incoming. It says the Ely member wasn't allowed to def a (Fang?) planet. You came up with the idea that it's because the attacker was eclipse.
That explains everything, thankyou for showing us.

Its not that Elysium members are banned from defending against Eclipse(On NON FAnG Planets)

They're just not allowed to defend against Eclipse at all.

Once again, thank you, you've cleared up a lot of confusion.
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 22:37   #13
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

I'm not saying Ely members aren't banned from deffing vs eclipse (I don't know, I'm not ely or eclipse), I'm saying that your log proves nothing.


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<@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
<@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def
This doesn't give a reason for not being allowed to def.

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there isnt 1 mention of FAnG planets in my log, i wudda been content with vampz (whos the GC i might add) defending any of the planets not fang, for the good of the gal etc.
That's why the Fang-part is between ( )'s and has a question mark.
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I'm not saying Ely members aren't banned from deffing vs eclipse (I don't know, I'm not ely or eclipse), I'm saying that your log proves nothing.
a couple of things are the point of this

1) eclipse attacked all my gal except the 2 ely planets

2) i asked my GC, one of the ely planets, if they had any fleet spare for def, they immediately said they had been ordered not to defend.

i never made any indication i was asking for fleets to defend fang planets, the fang planets were covered as i did the def call myself, i wanted coverage for the none allied planets in the gal.

this request, as u can see from the log, was refused due to orders from Ely command.
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Unread 8 Oct 2003, 22:56   #15
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You should have posted this in the first place .

heh, they might just be allied after all
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

I'm sure not being allowed to defend alliances that are openly hostile to your own alliance is a very evil thing =/
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I'm sure not being allowed to defend alliances that are openly hostile to your own alliance is a very evil thing =/
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<@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
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there isnt 1 mention of FAnG planets in my log, i wudda been content with vampz (whos the GC i might add) defending any of the planets not fang, for the good of the gal etc.
How many FAnG are in your gal? what other allies and numbers of them are there? U might say it's none of my business but u just mentioned the 2 ely's and besides all the big allies probably knows allready. But I feel it is vital for this case.
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

They might have just said they weren't allowed to defend, because they didn't want some Fang DC sending them on defence in-gal. I know I wouldn't trust defence sorted by Fang.
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They might have just said they weren't allowed to defend, because they didn't want some Fang DC sending them on defence in-gal. I know I wouldn't trust defence sorted by Fang.
1) no fang dc was ordering anything

2) [13:30] <@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
[13:30] <@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def

thats the same minute, in actuality (my irc isnt set to record seconds unforunately) it was virtually the same time.

so as i was typing 'got fleets home?' vampz was already typing 'im not allowed to def'
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Learn to read, then spend a few weeks practicing Reading, and then re-read what Ronnie said in his last post.
I'm posting as i read... But if a fang guy asked me for defence I'd naturally assume it was for a FAnG planet unless stated otherwise. Also perhaps Elysium need their members to defend their own members instead of others.

Also reasons for Eclipse not attacking Elysium planets could be that seeing as Elysium are fighting the same evil empire, u'd not wish to weaken your enemies enemies. I personally wouldn't defend a galm8 who share whatever goes on in the galchannel with his whole alliance and rest of AD.

Maybe I should have made some witty comeback to make u look stupid, but you "Proud to be gay erhm... FAnG!" guys do all that for me.
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in a random round like this my priorities go Alliance before Galaxy.
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Im so delighted you keep writing here Storebo.
Your an expert of making a fool out of yourself.

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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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1) no fang dc was ordering anything

2) [13:30] <@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
[13:30] <@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def

thats the same minute, in actuality (my irc isnt set to record seconds unforunately) it was virtually the same time.

so as i was typing 'got fleets home?' vampz was already typing 'im not allowed to def'
so there is a telepathy link between you and her and she was able to guess your intentions ? Damn i would love to have such an gc.

Btw Ronnie you put alot of words into the mouth of vampz.
She stated she isnt allowed to defend ingal this might be due to
a) ely not allowing their members to defend ingal at all costs (all ships for ely)
b) vampz useing a cheap excuse to get rid of you without provocing incomeing on herself
c) eclipse not targetting ely planets and therefore she didnt interfere
d) she guessed your question was implying that you were in need of help (most ppl do as "anyone got ships" if they need them themself) so she refused
e) she doesnt like you and wanted to see you burn in hell because you attacked an ely planet last night .

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+ various comedy options like "knew the bg attacking" "knew certain ppl" "relaying info to ppl" "haveing ships out just this tick and not wanting to say she will anytime let you guys down for her alliance" + + +

So the conclusion "wohoo its a conspiracy" seems predictable comeing from you.
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Maybe I should have made some witty comeback to make u look stupid, but you "Proud to be gay erhm... FAnG!" guys do all that for me.
At least we got some humor, becuz u my friend, s0ck at it!
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in a random round like this my priorities go Alliance before Galaxy.
you just answered your own question maybe hers were the same
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you just answered your own question maybe hers were the same
ofc it was.. she followed her orders from her alliance not to defend against eclipse ^^
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no Focht, there isnt a TELEPATHIC link between us.

- i have never actually spoken to vampz until today its unlikely she didnt like me at that time.

- all the fang planets were covered and none were actually landed on

- i didnt attack last night (i was far too drunk, RL etc)

other than that though sure, ur points r valid

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ofc it was.. she followed her orders from her alliance not to defend against eclipse ^^
and you seem to have a serious problem with reading 2, so ill take Mordens advice and recommend you start to practice.
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Im so delighted you keep writing here Storebo.
Your an expert of making a fool out of yourself.

P.S Take a course in reading english.
I read english fine. It is a bit late tho, so maybe u can tell me what i misread?

And what I said to morden counts for you to =)
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and you seem to have a serious problem with reading 2, so ill take Mordens advice and recommend you start to practice.
err no I dont.. there's a fully understandable point in what I said, even you should understand it
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At least we got some humor, becuz u my friend, s0ck at it!
Thank you... I really value critics from FAnG players the most.
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<@vampzZzZz> btw, i'm ely if anyone hadnt figured that out yet
<@photo> oh yes
<@photo>
<@photo> my mistake
<@vampzZzZz> uh huh
<@Ronnie> vampzZzZz, got fleets at home ?
<@vampzZzZz> i'm not allowed to def
<@Ronnie> cos its ecl inc
<@Ronnie> ofc
<@Ronnie> sos
<@vampzZzZz> i just checked
<@vampzZzZz> :/
<@Ronnie> but wait, u dont hav relations.....
<@Ronnie> :\
<@Ronnie> weird
<@vampzZzZz> indeed
To be perfectly honest that doesn't exactly prove anything does it?





PS As to the irc log, it's not excessively long and it's not of little to no interest to the majority of the users and therefore it is and always will be perfectly allowable.
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Thank you... I really value critics from FAnG players the most.
You know, generalizing just because of an alliance isn't what I call a 'wise act'. It's rather stupid in my opinion.
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You know, generalizing just because of an alliance isn't what I call a 'wise act'. It's rather stupid in my opinion.
Generally I'd agree but when it comes to FAnG?
Besides, my point is valid, when I talk negative about FAnG, I won't expect a decent responce from any of em. Except Ronnie, all the FAnG guys here seems to talk trash rather then to try to make a point.
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Generally I'd agree but when it comes to FAnG?
Besides, my point is valid, when I talk negative about FAnG, I won't expect a decent responce from any of em. Except Ronnie, all the FAnG guys here seems to talk trash rather then to try to make a point.
The reason you are speaking shit about FAnG is that it is the opposition of your alliance, that's the only reason and you know it!
And my responces to you haven't been trash if you read them in a proper way.
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Maybe I should have made some witty comeback to make u look stupid, but you "Proud to be gay erhm... FAnG!" guys do all that for me.
To make someone look stupid they must post something which you can use against them, If I had done that then no doubt someone would have tried to flame me, which quite frankly they are welcome to do, But I do prefer it when they have an actual point, rather than the constant drivel about things which are well out of date.

On the "Proud to be FAnG" matter, I find that quite amusing, as it shows several things about the poster, (a)that they are 2 rounds out of date, and (b)that they cant think of anything original or anything that relates to me in the slightest.

You are however welcome to say that to me at any time you wish, mainly because if anything that makes you look even stupider and saves anyone else the trouble of doing it.

Have a nice night watching your planet, Im off back to bed or i'll end up waking up with my bollocks chopped for wasting a night on the computer.
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The reason you are speaking shit about FAnG is that it is the opposition of your alliance, that's the only reason and you know it!
And my responces to you haven't been trash if you read them in a proper way.
Actually my dislike towards FAnG goes back to round 7, with all thoose posts they made, was mostly Rumad doing it. But kinda gives me a flashback every time anyone use that "Proud to be FAnG!" thingy.
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so there is a telepathy link between you and her and she was able to guess your intentions ? Damn i would love to have such an gc.

Btw Ronnie you put alot of words into the mouth of vampz.
She stated she isnt allowed to defend ingal this might be due to
a) ely not allowing their members to defend ingal at all costs (all ships for ely)
b) vampz useing a cheap excuse to get rid of you without provocing incomeing on herself
c) eclipse not targetting ely planets and therefore she didnt interfere
d) she guessed your question was implying that you were in need of help (most ppl do as "anyone got ships" if they need them themself) so she refused
e) she doesnt like you and wanted to see you burn in hell because you attacked an ely planet last night .

.....
+ various comedy options like "knew the bg attacking" "knew certain ppl" "relaying info to ppl" "haveing ships out just this tick and not wanting to say she will anytime let you guys down for her alliance" + + +

So the conclusion "wohoo its a conspiracy" seems predictable comeing from you.

In all cases, either she or Ely is being the bitch there. That's rather obvious. -EOD-
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Im so delighted you keep writing here Storebo.
Your an expert of making a fool out of yourself.

P.S Take a course in reading english.
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To be perfectly honest that doesn't exactly prove anything does it?

Making points here:
1) She knows which alliance she's in (duh)
2) Logically she would know her own alliance's defense procedures.
3) If Ely-members aren't allowed to defend gal-mates, then she surely must know this.
4) Why would she then need to check if she's allowed to defend?

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She had the coords of the attackers checked, or simply trying to see who is attacking. Was given an answer and had drawn the conclusion of not being allowed to defend.



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Actually my dislike towards FAnG goes back to round 7, with all thoose posts they made, was mostly Rumad doing it. But kinda gives me a flashback every time anyone use that "Proud to be FAnG!" thingy.
Can't we both agree r7 FAnG and r10 FAnG isn't the same? ofc.. "Proud to be FAnG(or whatever alliance)" statements is waaaay too old & boring now.. p


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4) Why would she then need to check if she's allowed to defend?.
Ely members are asked to check with DCs before sending ingal def to make sure:
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b) the ingal planet is not hostile.
c) no defense fleets are needed elsewhere in ely.

Pretty simple really. Now shutup, you're making me reply seriously to a stupid thread :(
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To make someone look stupid they must post something which you can use against them, If I had done that then no doubt someone would have tried to flame me, which quite frankly they are welcome to do, But I do prefer it when they have an actual point, rather than the constant drivel about things which are well out of date.

On the "Proud to be FAnG" matter, I find that quite amusing, as it shows several things about the poster, (a)that they are 2 rounds out of date, and (b)that they cant think of anything original or anything that relates to me in the slightest.

You are however welcome to say that to me at any time you wish, mainly because if anything that makes you look even stupider and saves anyone else the trouble of doing it.

Have a nice night watching your planet, Im off back to bed or i'll end up waking up with my bollocks chopped for wasting a night on the computer.
I posted what u did stupidly in this thread. And yes I'm sure u are so clean we can't find anything but good things to say about u.
Also "Proud to be FAnG!" thingy is still around iamong FAnG players. And to me it allways looks like a gay pride parade.
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Can't we both agree r7 FAnG and r10 FAnG isn't the same? ofc.. "Proud to be FAnG(or whatever alliance)" statements is waaaay too old & boring now.. p


Proud to be FAnG

j/k ofc
Many of the same leaders tho.. but reckon most of the members have been replaced. And still see that "Proud to be FAnG!" thingy in people's siggys and it gives me flashbacks.
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Making points here:
1) She knows which alliance she's in (duh)
2) Logically she would know her own alliance's defense procedures.
3) If Ely-members aren't allowed to defend gal-mates, then she surely must know this.
4) Why would she then need to check if she's allowed to defend?

Answer:
She had the coords of the attackers checked, or simply trying to see who is attacking. Was given an answer and had drawn the conclusion of not being allowed to defend.



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The conclusion was drawn by a third party and was not even agreed upon in any shape or form. The conversation itself reveals nothing other than she was unable to defend for whatever reason. Personally if I was elysium command I'd be ****ing around as much as I could attempting to confuse everyone else as to overall strategic intention. Of course it'd be more interesting if she came on here and said that yes, I could not defend because elysium command informed me I couldn't def specifically against eclipse incoming. The problem lies in the fact there is a range of other possible answers concerning elysium's military efforts which are not even vaguely addressed. The paucity of the information renders it impossible to draw a proper, well-based conclusion. Of course most FAnG/eclipse/ely/dragons members would support their own alliance right now if Genghis Khan joined it's HC. As it should be.



PS Purely objectively I have noticed on at least five or six occasions the "Proud to be FAnG" quote show up this round.
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Ely members are asked to check with DCs before sending ingal def to make sure:
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b) the ingal planet is not hostile.
c) no defense fleets are needed elsewhere in ely.

Pretty simple really. Now shutup, you're making me reply seriously to a stupid thread
a) wasn't the case. It was an Eclipse attack. (Or are you attacking together?)
b) define 'hostile' in a universe like this where everybody attacks everybody. Surely she knows which alliances you are on bad foot with, and im fairly sure she knows the alliances of her galaxy-members, so she wouldnt have needed to check for that.*
c) surely she would have said her fleets were needed elsewhere.


*assuming she isn't a mean bitch that doesn't deserve to be in that galaxy in the first place
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b) define 'hostile' in a universe like this
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Re: hmmm what do we have here?

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a) wasn't the case. It was an Eclipse attack. (Or are you attacking together?)
You mean "was the case" nitpicking 101
btw off to bed now scorpio, i love detective stories aswell just try to find the guiltyone in the end and not some random victim, will you ?
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