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Originally Posted by AdmV0rl0n
Chess and Planetarion have some basic points that are the same. A game of strategy, and a set of tools and options one can make. Some people have cited that the game cannot be coded in a way that rules out making illegal moves. If you were to apply that to Chess, we know most chess programs understand what is or is not allowed. But off course, there are viable and clear differences too.
I happen to like you, think that if you can do something in game, it should be allowed. And if something is there, then PA team should look at ways of limiting or blocking that activity.
In terms of Farming, I do understand why people don't like the idea. However, previously, in the Planetarion universe, people have disliked many things. Alliances, Races, Scanners.
Now, PAteam have over time added these into the game. And overall, each of these facets has _ultimately_ added to the game. People have left, people have said they do not like changes, but the game continues down the road of becoming a more complex game.
That sadly has led to a growth in the aspect of the EULA being used to try and curb 'behaviour'. But the game should encourage every player, every alliance into trying to ideas, new methods, new strategy, new planning and execution.
In terms of diplomacy and deal making, I believe two real players, who have single accounts should be allowed to make ANY deal they wish. That should be part of the game.
(And indeed, how is this different from Alliances or Galaxies suddenly dumping large res into one persons planet?)
I suggested a clear concise rules clean up, But beyond that, a real reconsideration for what is not legal. Make less things illegal, focus on the things you really really do not want (Multi-Accounts), but outside, allow people to explore and find ways, good or bad to play the game and find an advantage.
As for making new threads, long winded threads where people hurl abuse at each other loses the thread of discussion. So shoot me, I started a new thread.
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An early out line. Sections of 18 are listed from EULA.
Sections under 'Rules' are suggestions for Rulesin manual replacing parts of the EULA.
18. Cheating
This section presents the rules for playing the actual Game.
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Replace in EULA with
Rules of the game have to be adhered to by all players. See the rules section of the manual.
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18.1. Farming:
Farming is illegal. The definitions of farming are, but are not limited to:
(a) Attacking a target with his/her consent to get his/her asteroids/ships
(b) Defending against someone who is attacking with their consent to steal
their ships.
(c) Abusing game features in order to gain excessive XP (e.g. roid farming)
(d) Doing either a, b or c by using multi-planets
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Rules
1. Farming is an activity laid out below. It is regarded as Illegal. And will be treated as such.
We reserve the right to both monitor and deal with players breaching the rules.
Farming examples.
(a) Attacking a planet, in collusion with the owner, to gain benefit, in roids, ships, other benefits.
(b) Defending in collusion with an attacker to get material gain in ships, or salvage, or other benefit.
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18.2. Multiple Accounts / Account Sharing / Support Accounts:
Multi-ing, Account Sharing and Support Accounts are not allowed. The
definitions are, but are not limited to:
(a) A multi is a player who owns more than 1 planet.
(b) If you create another Account and intend to still play the original
Account, you are a multi.
(c) If you create another Account and use the old Account as a farm, you are
a multi and a farmer.
(d) If there is more than one user actively playing Planetarion from your IP
address, for example a friend or relative, this is fine. However, you must
register for an exception to be placed on your account to avoid being closed
This exception will limit the interaction that can take place between the
accounts and can be applied for on the preferences page in-game once signup
has been completed.
(e) Account sharing is when one player has control over more than one
Account during one round (i.e. has control over an Account that is not
theirs). This control could be via password sharing or via any form of
Trojan or Trojan like program.
(f) Support Accounts are accounts which are dedicated to undertaking specific
and repeated actions which result in an unfair benefit for a
planet/organisation, where an organisation is defined as an alliance or galaxy.
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Rules
2. Multiple accounts are illegal. Sharing your account with someone else is Illegal. Opening secondary accounts to support individual planets, players, galaxies, or alliances is Illegal.
Exceptions:-
If there is more than one user actively playing Planetarion from your IP
address, for example a friend or relative, this is fine. However, you must
register for an exception to be placed on your account to avoid being closed
This exception will limit the interaction that can take place between the
accounts and can be applied for on the preferences page in-game once signup
has been completed.
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18.3. Bots
Bots are not permitted to be used to access the game. Bot use is defined as,
but not limited to:
(a) Using browser plug-ins that would make it easier for you to play the
game
(b) Accessing the pages with another program (for example to check if you
are under attack) ¿ see section 8.
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Rules
3. Bots are not allowed.
This includes but is not exclusive to:-
(a) Using browser plug-ins that would make it easier for you to play the
game
(b) Accessing the pages with another program (for example to check if you
are under attack) ¿ see section 8.
(c) You are also not allowed to have scripts in in-game system which will
gain you an advantage in the game, or disrupt any computer systems other
than your own.
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18.4. Abuse
The definitions of abuse are, but are not limited to:
(a) Abuse is considered as anything offensive to another player or to an
admin.
(b) Abusive messages that are sent during the "heat of the moment" are still
not allowed.
(c) "The other player started it" is not an excuse.
(d) Spam messages sent using the in game message system will be regarded as abuse
(e) Depending on the circumstance, abuse will result in a warning or in
Account closure.
(f) If you are the target of abuse in the in game mail system, please do not
delete this mail. It should be reported using the Report to Admin¿ button
found at the bottom of each message.
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The abuse section ABOVE should remain in the EULA.
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18.5. Offensive galaxy pictures and/or galaxy/planet/ruler names
Planetarion is a game for players of all ages. Consideration should be given
to our younger players when registering galaxy/planet/ruler names and
posting galaxy pictures.
(a) Naked/semi-naked galaxy pictures are not allowed and will be removed at
an Admin's discretion.
(b) Racism and use of words and/or pictures likely to cause offence to
anybody in galaxy pictures and/or a galaxy/planet/ruler name is not allowed.
(c) You are also not allowed to have scripts in in-game system which will
gain you an advantage in the game, or disrupt any computer systems other
than your own.
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The above section should remain in the EULA.
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18.6. Miscellaneous cheating
(a) Attempts to encourage other planets to break the rules will be considered
a breach of this agreement
(b) The transfer of accounts to other users is not permitted. Passing on your
login details to another user is not permitted, even if they are subsequently
the only user to access your account.
(c) As newer methods of cheating are discovered, you authorise us to interpret
all data logged about your account towards detecting these methods. Actions which
are deemed to be cheating are not restricted to the list given on this
EULA and may be added to at any time, and you authorise us to do so
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RULES
4.
a) Players should not attempt to encourage other players to break the rules. Doing so will be regarded as an illegal act.
b) You are not allowed to transfer your account to anyone else.
c) You are not allowed to allow anyone else to access your account.
The (c) section in 18.6 should be in the EULA.
5.
Where new in game activity is discovered, and regarded as cheating, we reserve the right to add it to the rules section at short notice.
Players will be notified of new rule amendments by a generic in game mail from PAteam. Once announced and added, the act that has been discovered will become illegal.
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18.7. Consequences of actions which are not allowed
(a) We reserve the right to determine how much evidence is required before action is taken
(b) Any such actions will result in a warning or closure (1) of your Account
depending on the case.
(c) If your Account is closed you will be sent an automated message briefly
stating the reason for the closure. If you wish to appeal against the
closure contact the multihunter team in #multihunters. Upon completion of
this appeal the decision to close the Account will be reviewed and one of a
number of actions may result including but not limited to re-opening,
deletion or other various punitive measures (2).
(d) Accounts are automatically deleted and will be unrecoverable after 10
days of closure.
(e) An Admin does not need concrete evidence of an offence in order to
punish you, he/she just needs to have significant evidence to convince a
normal person that an offence has been committed ¿ evidence is deemed to be
anything logged by the Planetarion game server ¿ IRC logs cannot be used as
evidence, but can be used to add context to a case.
(1) Account closure means it will not be possible to log into the account,
fleets and covert operations cannot be directed at a closed Account. Upon
closing all outgoing fleets will be automatically recalled, closed Accounts
keep ticking (gaining resources, auto adjusting stealth/alert levels, etc)
with the rest of the universe.
(2) Various punitive measures imply that the punishment is completely at the
discretion of the Admins, it can vary from small score/ship/asteroid losses
to full account closures depending on the situation.
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Rules
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Consequences of cheating exist in the EULA under the
Consequences of actions which are not allowed heading.
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18.8. Evidence of Cheating
(a) Use of proxies and anonymizers.
(b) All interaction between accounts in the presence of other evidence
(c) More than one account using the same IP
(d) Any logged Account behaviour which appears to demonstrate a form of
farming.
(e) Shared registration information or preferences options from accounts in
the presence of other evidence.
(f) False signup information will result in immediate closure.
(g) IRC logs can be used as evidence if they are supported by other evidence
(h) Potential evidence of cheating does not always mean your Account will be
closed, if you feel you are doing something which may be regarded as
cheating which is not covered by the in-game exceptions system on the preferences
page, please register to be considered for an exception by emailing
[email protected].
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Rules
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Items that are regarded as evidence of potential cheating, or illegal acts:-
(a) Use of proxies and anonymizers.
(b) All interaction between accounts in the presence of other evidence
(c) More than one account using the same IP
(d) Any logged Account behaviour which appears to demonstrate a form of
farming.
(e) Shared registration information or preferences options from accounts in
the presence of other evidence.
(f) False signup information will result in immediate closure.
(g) IRC logs can be used as evidence if they are supported by other evidence
(h) Potential evidence of cheating does not always mean your Account will be
closed, if you feel you are doing something which may be regarded as
cheating which is not covered by the in-game exceptions system on the preferences
page, please register to be considered for an exception by emailing
[email protected].
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19. Inactivity
Planetarion is a real-time game that demands a certain amount of
participation. If your Account is not used in 7 days, it will be
automatically deleted. This can be avoided by upgrading to a paid Account.
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Rules
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Planetarion is a real-time game that demands a certain amount of
participation. If your Account is not used in 7 days, it will be
automatically deleted. This can be avoided by upgrading to a paid Account.