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Fuss about Danish Drawings

While there obvious cultural differences here, I think these current events are a great indication of how fundamentally different the values of middle eastern countries are from democratic values. I don't believe anymore that democracy is possible in the middle east. I know it's a gross general statement that doesn't apply to every citizen of those countries, but when you have mobs that burn down embassies because they're upset about someone exhibiting their freedom of expression I think there are a major challenges to the creation democratic institutions.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

this should make an interesting read tomorrow.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

If "a muslim" were to look at the British National Party or France's Fronte Nationale or some other extremist group (the Republican party, lol!) then they'd probably come to the conclusion that democracy in western countries was a bad idea.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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If "a muslim" were to look at the British National Party or France's Fronte Nationale or some other extremist group (the Republican party, lol!) then they'd probably come to the conclusion that democracy in western countries was a bad idea.
Yeah except those groups manage to amass a critical mass of the population and storm the streets and burn down foreign embassies. Also, obviously democracy is possible in western countries as that's the system employed now.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

Can anyone find a net link to the actual drawings themselves? Most search engines are drawing (sic) a blank for me.

(cue conspiracy theories about Google/Yahoo/MSN blocking links to these in case theyre attacked by radical muslim groups)
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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Yeah except those groups manage to amass a critical mass of the population and storm the streets and burn down foreign embassies. Also, obviously democracy is possible in western countries as that's the system employed now.
So, when 2000 nazies march thorught Stockholm while the anti-nazi demo is 1000 (the big public one), isnt that the same? Or when they attack the gayparade, or antifa demoes? Or when 5000 nazies march in Moscow and kill people afterwards? How much percentage did the nazies get in Germany during one of the elections that was a year or so ago? And isnt Le Pen pretty popular in France? Why does a very racist and authoritan party get almost 1/5 of the votes in Norway? Did you notice the Australian race riots just before (or was it just after) christmas?


And on the other scale, the leftwing militants. When a mob of 500 attacks the Israelli embasy in Oslo on a two-day notice demo, whats that? Or when scattered groups of about 1500 miltants shut down stocholm centrum due to nazies? I could list a thousand examples of violence, mobstyle, that occurs in the western world. Not all of it I sympatize with (nazies, for instance) but some of them are done by the most democratic groups we got!

Besides, the western European style of democracy is piss, and it's shamefull that it's even called that. To vote once in a while is not what democracy means, at least not in my book.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

there is a link posted by 1-X in my thread about it, somewhere on the first page
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Freedom of expression isn't a democratic ideal.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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Freedom of expression isn't a democratic ideal.
Freedom of expression is a necessary component of democracy.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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Can anyone find a net link to the actual drawings themselves? Most search engines are drawing (sic) a blank for me.

(cue conspiracy theories about Google/Yahoo/MSN blocking links to these in case theyre attacked by radical muslim groups)
http://danishcartoons.ytmnd.com/ There's a bunch there.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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Freedom of expression is a necessary component of democracy.
No, it isn't.
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No, it isn't.
Then obviously some people seriously disagree with you as they think freedom of expression is a necessary foundation for democracy even.

Obviously we would need to exactly define "freedom" and "expression" and the exceptions which limit them - its not like you can legally say whatever you want in public because of "freedom of expression". Would be interesting to know if ANY place on earth actually allows that.

I think the topic is currently a bit too serious to make nitpicking remarks of "No, it isnt" if you just want to provoke o.O
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

It's a necessary component of liberal democracy, which is what most Western people mean when they say "democracy" - this being the particular type of democracy that most of us live under.

It should be (but isn't) recognised that it's entirely possible to have an illiberal democracy, and that such a thing isn't really much better for the people who live in it than an illiberal autocracy, and is almost certainly worse than a liberal autocracy.
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Then obviously some people seriously disagree with you as they think freedom of expression is a necessary foundation for democracy even.

Obviously we would need to exactly define "freedom" and "expression" and the exceptions which limit them - its not like you can legally say whatever you want in public because of "freedom of expression". Would be interesting to know if ANY place on earth actually allows that.

I think the topic is currently a bit too serious to make nitpicking remarks of "No, it isnt" if you just want to provoke o.O
The necessary foundation of democracy is people being free to vote. Merely because real world examples do not exist does not mean you can pretend words mean something they don't.
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Merely because real world examples do not exist does not mean you can pretend words mean something they don't.
lol metaphor for western civilisation
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

It takes more time to create a democracy like ours in the Middle East.
Or do you think we got our democracy and freedom of speech over night?
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No, it isn't.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

Even the political direction of our country's were ruled by religious beliefs, less then a century ago..
and in some it's still happening

That's the power of democracy
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And you're not free to vote if you're not informed.
No, you're not free to vote if you're being prevented from voting. There's a difference.
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Voting is making a choice, making a cogent decision. It's not the physical act of punching out a chad. If you're prevented from being informed, then you're prevented from making a valid decision and the physical act of voting becomes meaningless.
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Voting is making a choice, making a cogent decision. It's not the physical act of punching out a chad.
You're confusing "voting" and "voting in a western liberal democracy". It's quite conceivable that there could be limits on freedom of expression. Mainly because there are.
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Re: Fuss about Danish Drawings

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The necessary foundation of democracy is people being free to vote. Merely because real world examples do not exist does not mean you can pretend words mean something they don't.
You are now doing exactly the kind of nitpicking i expected. Very constructive regarding this topic on this forum. You would have a lot of "letters to the editor" to write if you would do the same in much more respected media.
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You are now doing exactly the kind of nitpicking i expected. Very constructive regarding this topic on this forum. You would have a lot of "letters to the editor" to write if you would do the same in much more respected media.
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Democracy can be defined as "majority rule". The majority could, conceivably, vote to restrict the freedom of speech (and other freedoms) of the minority (slavery in America, Jews in Nazi Germany). Democracy does not automatically guarantee any freedom; it tends to do so because most people don't really like oppression. This, however, is not a result of democracy, it's a result of the character of the voters.

Most of the good things about Western society result from the "liberal" half of liberal democracy; relatively few result from the "democracy" part.
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Democracy can be defined as "majority rule". The majority could, conceivably, vote to restrict the freedom of speech (and other freedoms) of the minority (slavery in America, Jews in Nazi Germany). Democracy does not automatically guarantee any freedom; it tends to do so because most people don't really like oppression. This, however, is not a result of democracy, it's a result of the character of the voters.

Most of the good things about Western society result from the "liberal" half of liberal democracy; relatively few result from the "democracy" part.
It's not really a majority rule if the vast majority of votes are represented in government as is the case in a parlimentary style system. Parties are given percentage of seats based on percentage of votes out of the total for that party.
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How is that not majority rule? If the majority of people vote for a party, it forms the government and can (without any other safeguards existing such as individual rights) do whatever it likes regardless of what the minority thinks.
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There is a difference between what I would call democracy and what I would call majority-dictatorship.
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How is that not majority rule? If the majority of people vote for a party, it forms the government and can (without any other safeguards existing such as individual rights) do whatever it likes regardless of what the minority thinks.
Because the other parties that were voted into seats by the minority have powers as well, but yes they aren't as influential as the majority parties.
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There is a difference between what I would call democracy and what I would call majority-dictatorship.
Democracy simply is majority rule. Lots of organisations have internal democracy - trade unions, for example. Some political parties have internal democracy. Even some businesses do.

Liberal democracy is about voting for candidates/parties to run a limited state (limited by individual rights). The difference between Western democracy and Islamic democracy is the limits on the state. Both are democratic, but our states are prevented from interfering in the lives of individuals in ways their states are not. Put another way, I don't think the oppressed individual cares whether his oppressor seized power in a coup or was voted in by a majority of his countrymen. It is the oppressive act that is wrong, not how the oppressor gained the power to inflict it.

Democracy can be a partial safeguard against oppression, because people will naturally be fearful of voting in an oppressive government. But when that oppression is clearly targetted against a specific minority, a majority may feel that it is safe to vote for the oppressor. In such circumstances, democracy can be a tool of oppression.

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Because the other parties that were voted into seats by the minority have powers as well, but yes they aren't as influential as the majority parties.
What powers do minority parties have?
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Also, obviously democracy is possible in western countries as that's the system employed now.
I wasn't saying it's not possible, just that it has its ugly side; much like a Middle Eastern style democracy would have its ugly side too.
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I was speaking of a theorethical consept of democracy, not democracy as we know it. For instance what I call "the dicatorship of the proletariat" is majority-dicatorship or majority-democracy. It is that one class rule the others without constraint. At the same time my definition of liberal-democracy is minority-democracy or minority-dictatorship, becouse the bourgiousie rule over the other classes.

Point is, that democracy can be interpreted differently and looked upon from various angles.
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What powers do minority parties have?
They can vote, they can draft legislation, they can do anything else any other member can as individuals.
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these are however rarely powers except in name. a minority party only has power when there is disharmony in the majority party. which, in the case of the "Vote for more imams" party, isn't going to be a major concern.
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It's not really a majority rule if the vast majority of votes are represented in government as is the case in a parlimentary style system. Parties are given percentage of seats based on percentage of votes out of the total for that party.
Ignoring that you've only referred to one of the kinds of parliamentary democracy, you're referring to a subset of democracy as a whole. The simplest kind is where everyone votes on everything, you're talking about a Representative Democracy.
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