the shuffle just started

[madman2k30]

were u suppose to opt out of the shuffle? o and it just started

[A2]

ALL free planets are being shuffled
ALL paid planets are remaining in the galaxy groups they were in before the shuffle.

However all galaxy coords will change in order to compress the universe and try and get the clusters as level as possible in terms of playercount.

[madman2k30]

so it will also effect the gal score?

[Nitros]

if you get new players - yes

[madman2k30]

that sux our gal was 78th

[A2]

You may be 77th now... you never know

edit: you'll know at PT73

[madman2k30]

yeah rite more than likely is 178th

[A2]

Incidentally, the shuffle is complete now - You can login again.

[madman2k30]

this reshuffle sux we lost over 100k in points

[jerome]

thanks for all the 0 roid planets, i`m really grateful. useful shuffle, really. heh. Instead of "helping" in anyway, your just making us waste our goddamn resources in exiling the goddamn utter shit planets wih 0 (....why...didnt..you..delete....all.....of..them....) roids. I heard the 0 roid planets were not deleted because they were "active" (:D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D::D) so basically, they were multi-accs/spies etc who are uberly-active but just dont bother doing anything with their accounts? :d

wonderful!

i hope you can feel my gratitude.

[AzureWrath]

that shuffle helped alot....no really it did :|

[madman2k30]

so who thinks this is a **** up of an idea?

[TheBerk]

me, ffs, its shafted the game, now people i know from my *old* cluster know my rulername etc, great start to the freakin round

[Jackal2112]

this is so fkin unfunny. my galaxy lost 4 players which seemed active (although they had free accounts) and we got back 2 planets with < 10 roids. i believe the inactive planets were supposed to be deleted before the shuffle?

all this said and done, our PA team forgets to recognize the fact that, by thinking they will make this game more fair for everyone, they only make it more fair for those couple of players who were to slow/retarded/noobish not to get 5 private persons in their galaxy to begin with. those who did manage to get 5 private players and received some good free/random planets in their galaxies are paying the price.

not to mention those people paying for 5 of their randoms in the beginning which can all sit back and laugh at the 'decent' galaxies who didn't get all 10 planets paid and are now 'paying' the price for having decent planets taken away.

and why for gods sake were all coords changed? to make it more 'fair'? doesn't anybody use their brains at PA team? maybe some people actually spent a lot of time trying to sort out their cluster alliance? i for hell know some people in my 'old' cluster had spent hours every day on sorting out things and getting a real cluster alliance going.

spinner and co. next time you try to make things 'fair', think about making things 'right' first. if you can't make things right by making them fair, please don't do anything at all, cause it seems with every poor action of the PA team it's clear they shouldn't make them. to many people suffer from your poor lame actions. cut it out. let randoms be random and freebies be free. let the dam galaxies be. where did the time go when factors like 'random', 'luck' and activity still played a part in PA and we didn't need 'the hand of god spinner' to correct the universe because he thought it was ' unfair'.

this is S - H - I - T.

[Fake]

Very cool we spent tons of ressources to exile all those inactive that joined our gal and then when we found an active randomplayer he got shuffled out
This is no good

[Nology]

Wow...we went from having 10 planets and having two decent randoms to having 9 planets and two zero roid randoms. Thanks, I appreciate the 'fairness' of the shuffle. Now our chance to finish anywhere near the Top 100 that was actually looking somewhat decent is now crap. Very much appreciated, I do hope the gals who got the good randoms (those that didn't need them in the first place) enjoy having an easy round courteousy of our 'great' PA team.

[jerome]

I`ve whined enough etc. I still believe paid randoms should have got shuffled. But the shuffle may have done what it was supposed to and "evened the universe*" (apart from the top gals).


By making them all equally poor, and the top gals considerably better? we`ll find out during next dump in sandmans etc anyhow.

[Benneh]

Top gal wasnt effected at all.

Personally in the gal im in, we lost a player around 200 roids and 67k score and 1 inactive with 6 roids.

what did we gain.

A ****ing 0 roid out of protection terran.

[G.K Zhukov]

The galaxy I was in before the shuffle atleast had 7 actives.
This one seems to have about 3-4.

[ArcChas]

Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov

The galaxy I was in before the shuffle atleast had 7 actives.
This one seems to have about 3-4.

So you're playing a free account?

(If you'd paid you wouldn't have been moved).

Or is it that you've lost some active unpaid planets?

[Helix]

yea, I do agree that PA Team did a shitty job of making this "fair"

my gal went down in roid count by nearly 300....and hell, we weren't even near the top of the list, we were barely in the top100.

Great screw up PA Team...

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by ArcChas

So you're playing a free account?

(If you'd paid you wouldn't have been moved).

Or is it that you've lost some active unpaid planets?

Im a freebie yes.
Im not sure about the other planets, weather they were paid or not.
Anyways, my current galaxy sucks completly, and Im so close to just delete my freebie heh.

[ArcChas]

In that case, you had the choice to stay where you were - by paying before the shuffle.

[Ferretus]

"In that case, you had the choice to stay where you were - by paying before the shuffle."

He shouldn't have to! It is everyones right to play on a freebie (with limited tech etc) or not and doing a big "I told you so" is such a crap comment. Zhurkovs comments were valid and simply highlighted another side of the argument.

Ok enough moaning there.

I agree with the general concensus of these boards though, the shuffle has been annoying. Why did we waste all those resources exiling players out to get active players. We didn't mind if they were freebies or not as everyone should have a fair chance of a game. So when we lost our 4 active noobs I was not impressed. Now we got to start all over again exiling the crap until we eventually we get someone who is worth a piss in a bucket.

Again a lot of effort was wasted in organising the cluster alliance which no doubt is reflected in many clusters.

If any reshuffle was to happen then it should have happened before ticks start. Or in the event of an emergency as this seemed to be (for whatever reason) then clear guidelines as to when the ticks will restart should be placed with plenty of notice. Currently its 23:00 (nearly) GMT and the ticker still isn't moving despite it being a few hours overdue.

We got research/attacks planned. Close the game for 24hrs to at least give people a chance to fix what this has cocked up.

[CrazyConrad]

As I said in a different post, WAY the go PA team!!!! \o/

A m8 got 3 randoms 175+ roids and my gal got 3 shit randoms (2 with 0 roids)

A GREAT and FAIR shuffle!!!!!

PA team, you move a planet from my gal into a top gal, you **** up my gal totally and now you give me 3 inactive and usless randoms, damn how more fcking useless can you be? And we pay for this fcking shit...

[ArcChas]

Originally Posted by Ferretus

"In that case, you had the choice to stay where you were - by paying before the shuffle."

He shouldn't have to! It is everyones right to play on a freebie (with limited tech etc) or not and doing a big "I told you so" is such a crap comment. Zhurkovs comments were valid and simply highlighted another side of the argument.

Valid - perhaps. But complaining about something you got for free doesn't carry much weight. My point was that the paid accounts had far more reason (and right) to complain.

As for your opinion of the quality of my comments................

Originally Posted by Ferretus

Ok enough moaning there.

Agreed - and pretty much what I said.

[DunkelGraf]

Round is over for lotsa ppl isnt it ?

ill vote for YES

[mens]

I thought the threadname was "the shuffle is just retarded"
oh well

[madman2k30]

it was then i started to bitch about PA's screw up!! who do u think im concentrating my attack on during the round?? i say the entire universe should just launch an all out attack against 1:1 and wipe the PA team off the face of the map

[arbondigo]

Originally Posted by madman2k30

it was then i started to bitch about PA's screw up!! who do u think im concentrating my attack on during the round?? i say the entire universe should just launch an all out attack against 1:1 and wipe the PA team off the face of the map

You really think they'd be bothered if you did that??? No

[madman2k30]

it would be good for a laugh eventhough they would proberly cheat and give themselves extra stuff

[General Martok]

hundreds of n00bs attack 1:1 daily anyways, if you'd attack them they wouldn't even notice. They dont PLAY with those planets, they are just serving as mailboxes.

[arbondigo]

PA team don't play the round seriously and consequently wouldn't be bothered too much about being attacked. Though sometimes i've seen them with a lot of defence, big time overkill defence