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Unread 2 Apr 2016, 12:18   #151
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Re: R66 who will win

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Back on topic tho. This round is anyones game. Atm CT leads the XP race and BF leads the value race(and the political race by the looks of things). Ult ofc leads the awesomeness race. 800 ticks to go
Agreed apart from the awesomeness race. I have really enjoyed the round thus far.
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Morning of February 25th; I made a bet with Sandvold on whether fl would launch with us. I lost.
Iirc p3n attacked norse on our own on the last weekend and failed, then went back to attacking ult. Third last day you tried to xp norse while we kept on ult. When you did not do as well as hoped us and you were going to attack norse on 2nd last night but you after discussions with norse decided that would not be in your best interests and went after someone else (dont remember who, probably someone like HR with poorer def) instead.
Norse had two days with more than 40 incs all round, thanks to Brams stats we can see your lying. Unless sending 30ish fleet a-night at someone is targetting.
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Unless sending 30ish fleet a-night at someone is targetting.
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Unfortunately such was the state to which p3n attacks had got to by the end of last round 40 would have been pretty reasonable night.

Looking at his stats the 39 incs on day 40 would be p3n's first attempt. The 107 on the third last day presumably fl. Then the 58 on the second last p3n. Perhaps you should take a chance to look at the stats before you immediately decide that what I am saying dont match them. I should also note that in both cases we had some ult targets on our raid too simply to keep them occupied - something I objected to at the time as a pointless division of firepower. (But then I was against hitting Norse at all and in favour of helping them rather than hindering them).
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Unfortunately such was the state to which p3n attacks had got to by the end of last round 40 would have been pretty reasonable night.

Looking at his stats the 39 incs on day 40 would be p3n's first attempt. The 107 on the third last day presumably fl. Then the 58 on the second last p3n. Perhaps you should take a chance to look at the stats before you immediately decide that what I am saying dont match them. I should also note that in both cases we had some ult targets on our raid too simply to keep them occupied - something I objected to at the time as a pointless division of firepower. (But then I was against hitting Norse at all and in favour of helping them rather than hindering them).
So sending 30ish fleets at someone actualy is what p3nguins means by targetting, so by all means, then p3nguins was probly the alliance that was most active on targetting other allies.
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So sending 30ish fleets at someone actualy is what p3nguins means by targetting, so by all means, then p3nguins was probly the alliance that was most active on targetting other allies.
I would define targeting by how you are raiding not by the number of fleets as I am sure you would too. If you are hitting a galaxy it is gal raiding. If you are hitting one alliance it is ptargeting. If two it is split targeting. In this instance it was split but with at more than half (in practice if not in theory due to norse being considerably better targets - actual target numbers up equal) on norse. So 20 attack fleets all on one alliance if that is all the alliance sends out would indeed be ptargeting. But similarly it could be 150.

On the subject of which p3n has been ptargeting bows for over a week now... and a good chunk of the time they have been ptargeting us back. It seems to be going nowhere fast.
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I would define targeting by how you are raiding not by the number of fleets as I am sure you would too. If you are hitting a galaxy it is gal raiding. If you are hitting one alliance it is ptargeting. If two it is split targeting. In this instance it was split but with at more than half (in practice if not in theory due to norse being considerably better targets - actual target numbers up equal) on norse. So 20 attack fleets all on one alliance if that is all the alliance sends out would indeed be ptargeting. But similarly it could be 150.

On the subject of which p3n has been ptargeting bows for over a week now... and a good chunk of the time they have been ptargeting us back. It seems to be going nowhere fast.
Maybe they are entering the stages of where they create a 4 allie block just to stop p3nguins from winning
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Norse had two days with more than 40 incs all round, thanks to Brams stats we can see your lying. Unless sending 30ish fleet a-night at someone is targetting.
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It is fairly common for alliance activity to decline sharply near round end, when it becomes clear the win is out of reach.

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Why would they? You make very little sense.
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Maybe they are entering the stages of where they create a 4 allie block just to stop p3nguins from winning
Awesome... doubt it will happen this round but we live in hope!
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Who needs an ally with these stats.
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Re: R66 who will win

So how is everyone planning to stop the value juggernaut that is BF?
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The same way you stop ult, gangbang with 4+ alliances so value doesn't matter?
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The same way you stop ult, gangbang with 4+ alliances so value doesn't matter?
Question is will Ult be able to gather enough allies to their side to help or has their enmity alienated too many allies?
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I wouldn't worry pals. XP -> value this round. Ultores is certainly proving that.
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Re: R66 who will win

i'm surprised how many actually can't see BF is running away with it. Thing is, Ult is pure FI and has no way to roid BF.
So guys, its a BF win unless the other allies block agaisnt a less traditional favourite and take them down. Ult will do Ults thing, but by looks of it will come in second behind, as mz eloquently puts it, the BF value juggernaut.
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"a less traditional favourite"

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Re: R66 who will win

I think its pretty obvious that zik/cat value players will have the edge over low value xan planets in the second half of the round.
The xp-game is alot of fun.... untill you stop landing.
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i'm surprised how many actually can't see BF is running away with it. Thing is, Ult is pure FI and has no way to roid BF.
So guys, its a BF win unless the other allies block agaisnt a less traditional favourite and take them down. Ult will do Ults thing, but by looks of it will come in second behind, as mz eloquently puts it, the BF value juggernaut.
Let's see if Ult tries to mend fences and form a proper block. I don't see CT forming it against BF. Nor some of the other allies caring enough this round to do so.
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Let's see if Ult tries to mend fences and form a proper block. I don't see CT forming it against BF. Nor some of the other allies caring enough this round to do so.
Why should we?
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i'm surprised how many actually can't see BF is running away with it. Thing is, Ult is pure FI and has no way to roid BF.
So guys, its a BF win unless the other allies block agaisnt a less traditional favourite and take them down. Ult will do Ults thing, but by looks of it will come in second behind, as mz eloquently puts it, the BF value juggernaut.
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Why should we?
It rather sounds like CT wont, and may even bandwagon with BF, which really only leaves ult. The remaining alliances are trailing with little chance of victory so have no obvious motive to make the first move but may well join with someone else with the promise of lucrative lands.
As Kaiba mentions value unlike xp goes down as well as up. It is also easy to slow its growth if you take BF's roids so it is certainly still possible to halt BF.
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Why should we?
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You and ct seem to be the only two besides BF trying. So it's one of you two or BF gets a crown.
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Re: R66 who will win

Unlike the rest of the uni, ct and ult won't land BF. We warred them for 2-3 days, putting around 400 fleets on them in that timeframe, didnt land much because of strat. So that's entirely up to the rest of you ReaperSix if you want BF down.

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Unlike the rest of the uni, ct and ult won't land BF. We warred them for 2-3 days, putting around 400 fleets on them in that timeframe, didnt land much because of strat. So that's entirely up to the rest of you ReaperSix if you want BF down.
Why would we want BF down? Yes there is the traditional fear of a hegemon but is it really in our interests to put our heads above the parapet?
And why should we be any more likely to succeed? We are a mostly xan alliance just like you are, just one that is less successful at xping hence our terrible rank. Sure we do have cats but they are mostly meant to be def planets this round, hardly the tip of an offensive force capable of taking down BF. This then leads back to the parapet, if we cant win it is much safer to stay off the radar and hope BF avoid us.
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What strat did BF go that makes them unroidable?
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What strat did BF go that makes them unroidable?
If you went Fi or Frig Strat you have heehaw chance of roiding.
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You and ct seem to be the only two besides BF trying. So it's one of you two or BF gets a crown.
I sure hope sending attacks only doesn't count as 'trying' in pa these days...
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That has been p3n's definition of trying for aaaages! You have probably mocked us for this definition in the past!
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If you went Fi or Frig Strat you have heehaw chance of roiding.
So as an alliance which I believe it is 90+% Xan they can't land on an alliance with no cloaked defence where half the viable def ships don't even make alliance ETA. Surely it's possible to soak up a large chunk of the defence with fakes and then cripple the caths with mass incomming. No matter how good BF are they only have a finite amount of def value and Ult has up to 180 attack fleets which are cloaked

Ult have played so little interest to their own value this round surely wasting a bit to blow up some clippers and roid BF down would be worth it, they have their guaranteed xp gains to sit on
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So as an alliance which I believe it is 90+% Xan they can't land on an alliance with no cloaked defence where half the viable def ships don't even make alliance ETA. Surely it's possible to soak up a large chunk of the defence with fakes and then cripple the caths with mass incomming. No matter how good BF are they only have a finite amount of def value and Ult has up to 180 attack fleets which are cloaked

Ult have played so little interest to their own value this round surely wasting a bit to blow up some clippers and roid BF down would be worth it, they have their guaranteed xp gains to sit on
They have more than 2x our value already and emp eff is crazy.

You do need some value to get xp so crashing our already small fleets makes sense yes
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So as an alliance which I believe it is 90+% Xan they can't land on an alliance with no cloaked defence where half the viable def ships don't even make alliance ETA. Surely it's possible to soak up a large chunk of the defence with fakes and then cripple the caths with mass incomming. No matter how good BF are they only have a finite amount of def value and Ult has up to 180 attack fleets which are cloaked

Ult have played so little interest to their own value this round surely wasting a bit to blow up some clippers and roid BF down would be worth it, they have their guaranteed xp gains to sit on
Do you know how lazy BCs are these days? .... pfft.
I didnt say they were unroidable .... on all 6 ship classes.
However as as GM and eksero put it? "where is my carrot? "
Politically BF can ride the political wave because the Politics men of the major alliances aren't budging on their stances and its like northern Ireland politics back in the day.... If I was to do drunken karaoke I would be sing Zombie by the cranberries.
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hmm guinness
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The carrot is the thrill of the hunt. The trying to do what people say can't be done. If BF already are too far ahead then what do you have to lose. If you can't win the current environment then don't just let them roll past you. Make them earn it
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Sounds like GM is prepared to talk it over a pint.

The question I have will it be PA's equivilent to the Good friday agreement or just another Bloody Sunday till the round ends.
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The carrot is the thrill of the hunt. The trying to do what people say can't be done. If BF already are too far ahead then what do you have to lose. If you can't win the current environment then don't just let them roll past you. Make them earn it
All BF has to do is keep farming roids and sit pretty and let politics take care of themselves as I've previously explained, Unless clouds does some stupid shit like claiming No one can Roid us.
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Sounds like GM is prepared to talk it over a pint.

The question I have will it be PA's equivilent to the Good friday agreement or just another Bloody Sunday till the round ends.
I'm afraid even guinness wouldn't do any good since GM claims we are cheaters, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to associate himself with a bunch of shady characters!
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It's not trying very hard at least!
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I'm afraid even guinness wouldn't do any good since GM claims we are cheaters, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to associate himself with a bunch of shady characters!
hmm what about a pint of murphy's?
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"Like the murphys im not bitter"

Is Gzambo playing in your tag come to think of it?

Edit- Next Thing we know it, the ULT (Ulster Loyalist Territorials or some other abbreivation) will be doing orange marches in CT's Public channels sing parodys of the Sash "This was the defence call that Agar3s Owned"

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Sounds like IRC's Garvaghy Road.

I take it Hunter you are one of the Apprentice Boys of the ULT?
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hmm what about a pint of murphy's?
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"Like the murphys im not bitter"

Is Gzambo playing in your tag come to think of it?

Edit- Next Thing we know it, the ULT (Ulster Loyalist Territorials or some other abbreivation) will be doing orange marches in CT's Public channels sing parodys of the Sash "This was the defence call that Agar3s Owned"

With the CT faithful Chanting back .... YA dirty VNCing B@$t@rds
Murphy's is no good man!

Gzambo is not playing with us.

Yes that wouldn't surprise me!

Edit: I have been informed he is indeed playing with us!

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Edit: I have been informed he is indeed playing with us!
He must be in the other 1/2 tag that The ULT has aka mercs ---- Good luck trying to get Gzambo into a tag that sounds like an Ulster loyalist paramilitary
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He must be in the other 1/2 tag that The ULT has aka mercs ---- Good luck trying to get Gzambo into a tag that sounds like an Ulster loyalist paramilitary
No he is in ult tag, I just haven't seen him this round! (VNC confirmed.)
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It's not trying very hard at least!
Yeah, being TA'd doesn't take much effort I guess, except for the person that does it...unless ofc, he is controlling you all.

Also wouldn't classify the usual 90 planets as not trying - won't even be able to moan about blocking this round because no one cares.

At the end of the day like I said previously, in our experience BF's def always was better than Ult's ever was, even taking into account race selection this round.
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So as an alliance which I believe it is 90+% Xan they can't land on an alliance with no cloaked defence where half the viable def ships don't even make alliance ETA.
You don't need defense to deal with incomings from an alliance less than half your value, especially when you have much of it in ships that hard counter them. See Ultores' score graph when they hit BF and when they hit CT.

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Ult have played so little interest to their own value this round surely wasting a bit to blow up some clippers and roid BF down would be worth it, they have their guaranteed xp gains to sit on
Losing value harms your ability to gain XP. If you don't have much to begin with, and you land this, then this happens instead of this.
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hey, we spoke to ultores this round, managed to agree a CF!! there was peace! then the IRA... erm, Ultores hit the war button again.

this is like an old firm match.
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hey, we spoke to ultores this round, managed to agree a CF!! there was peace! then the IRA... erm, Ultores hit the war button again.

this is like an old firm match.
I thought ULT were the huns and not the tims lol

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