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Unread 21 Feb 2017, 12:05   #251
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Re: R70 prediction & drama thread

Whats with the exodus from Rainbows? People finally tired of Butchers verbal diarrhea ?

Interesting...so last round Ult used Xoca/Joseph's "cheating" as an excuse to break the NAP with FL. This round Ult is keeping their NAP with App even though elviz has been "cheating"....Interesting...very Interesting.
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Interesting...so last round Ult used Xoca/Joseph's "cheating" as an excuse to break the NAP with FL. This round Ult is keeping their NAP with App even though elviz has been "cheating"....Interesting...very Interesting.
Not really, we broke the nap with xoca(not fl) and hit him cause he was cheating an ult member out of one of the top ranks(not that it mattered since RaZer seems to prefer rank4), this round we sucked so much that top ranks haven't been an issue. Two quite different situations afaik.

Would we have hit elviz if it affected Ult ranks? maybe, depends on the evidence, last round we had plenty but this round we have nothing other than people saying "elviz cheated"(we havent actively looked for evidence since it didnt affect us, but i find it suspicious that noone has presented us with any evidence knowing how much people want us to hit app).
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Unread 21 Feb 2017, 17:36   #256
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There is no such thing as cheating in PA, atleast thats the officialy story from Ace.
If you ask ace wether it was anyone initiating asteroids prior to someone from the top gal landed them, they will actualy claim it never happend. What ever the dumps and kia show is just fake news.

And after the mz/benneh incident farming became legal, roids or ships, its all allowed
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There is no such thing as cheating in PA, atleast thats the officialy story from Ace.
If you ask ace wether it was anyone initiating asteroids prior to someone from the top gal landed them, they will actualy claim it never happend. What ever the dumps and kia show is just fake news.

And after the mz/benneh incident farming became legal, roids or ships, its all allowed
OMG stop, it's boring. No one agrees with you. It wasn't illegal, it wasn't cheating.it also wasn't in the spirit of the game, but then there is no official rules to govern that. Just unwritten ones which the community abides by mostly.

Just because you say something a lot doesn't make it true, no matter how much you need it to be so to justify your own lack of creativity, originality and ability in this game.
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As for cheating, I would be looking quite closely at the rise of a certain planet with south American descent.


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OMG stop, it's boring. No one agrees with you. It wasn't illegal, it wasn't cheating.it also wasn't in the spirit of the game, but then there is no official rules to govern that. Just unwritten ones which the community abides by mostly.

Just because you say something a lot doesn't make it true, no matter how much you need it to be so to justify your own lack of creativity, originality and ability in this game.
This is what i said exactly wasnt it?

Mz/Benneh invented the legal roid farming scam. Ref r66
nelito + brazil is behind the free XP farming. Ref r64(?)
Norse invented the pod farming scam. Ref r67

Anyone not beliving farming is legal, in any creative way possibole are either retarded or living under a rock.
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touché.

As for cheating, I would be looking quite closely at the rise of a certain planet with south American descent.

Also interesting how certain caths had big amounts of fi pods tick 100 (hello p3ng)....
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Not really, we broke the nap with xoca(not fl) and hit him cause he was cheating an ult member out of one of the top ranks(not that it mattered since RaZer seems to prefer rank4), this round we sucked so much that top ranks haven't been an issue. Two quite different situations afaik.

Would we have hit elviz if it affected Ult ranks? maybe, depends on the evidence, last round we had plenty but this round we have nothing other than people saying "elviz cheated"(we havent actively looked for evidence since it didnt affect us, but i find it suspicious that noone has presented us with any evidence knowing how much people want us to hit app).
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There is no such thing as cheating in PA, atleast thats the officialy story from Ace.
If you ask ace wether it was anyone initiating asteroids prior to someone from the top gal landed them, they will actualy claim it never happend. What ever the dumps and kia show is just fake news.

And after the mz/benneh incident farming became legal, roids or ships, its all allowed
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Also interesting how certain caths had big amounts of fi pods tick 100 (hello p3ng)....

Maybe we should have top3 farmers planet instead of top3 planets and have them at the EORC
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The PA the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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Also interesting how certain caths had big amounts of fi pods tick 100 (hello p3ng)....
If anyone in p3n is farming please provide me with evidence and I am sure they will be kicked in short order. I was not aware of any cats attacking with fi in p3n except blink who attacks without any fi pods. But then I dont pay any attention to our attacking.
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Oh look as if by magic a farm leaves tag so a planet can be escorted on it straight away.
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Unfortunately the scans don't lie. Interesting development.
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http://game.planetarion.com/showscan...vyiowsn8npet9q

Lol, a brazillian leaves the tag right before tick so the top brazillian planet can land him.
There isnt realy any competition left in this game for the honest people
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'Red Defense' used to be a thing, may aswell bring it back at this rate. Along with in-gal attacks. Also PDS, that was prettty cool.

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Lol, a brazillian leaves the tag right before tick so the top brazillian planet can land him.
There isnt realy any competition left in this game for the honest people
Don't worry it will add to our cap 😂
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Just realised Jo and Junior both 3 fleeting him even though mad incs on infidels


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So, norseless players emo quit, ck and cia farm him its ok...
Peng guy left tag, his m8s do the same... allll ok...
I can point like 5 top planets who landed friends who emo quit tag...
Happens that our only allied this round made deals to get us raped... some members got angry and are leaving tag, and we cant roid them... why??? Ahh, bcoz only gringos can try win.. how dare brazilians try it hum???
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So, norseless players emo quit, ck and cia farm him its ok...
Peng guy left tag, his m8s do the same... allll ok...
I can point like 5 top planets who landed friends who emo quit tag...
Happens that our only allied this round made deals to get us raped... some members got angry and are leaving tag, and we cant roid them... why??? Ahh, bcoz only gringos can try win.. how dare brazilians try it hum???
Norsemen were not farmed or attacked by any faceless players when they quit Tag.

In fact it's quite the opposite - norse continually hit FL planets since leaving tag - and I'm pretty sure there has been 0 retaliation. No honour Norse some would say.

Joeseph couple of things - you must be the most selfish player of current pa.

Last night you decided to ally with apprime so you could send your ally mates spiders to elviz (app hc). The result of this was he was the only only to land and lost circa 900k spiders. All wiped out. No wonder players leave your tag?

By allying apprime you made yourself an enemy of faceless. So we cancel our nap etc and hit your large gal mate.

Pre launch fleets started showing at 21:30 last night so you knew it was coming


Instead of grounding you decide to farm your Brazil friend leaving no chance of junior being covered. In fact you both 3 fleet.

So for the sake of erm sucking lars balls you've done the following:

Sold our your alliance
Sold out your galaxy
& sold out your own planet (am sure this will happen)

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Lol, a brazillian leaves the tag right before tick so the top brazillian planet can land him.
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Happens every round with Joseph and his buddies it's really not surprising.
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If MH don't sort this I guess we will have to sort it ourselves, If I was still HC 2:6:10 would be seeing a lot of red at this present moment in time.
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Instead of grounding you decide to farm your Brazil friend leaving no chance of junior being covered. In fact you both 3 fleet.
Not that it matters or affects what your post suggested, but why do you think Norseless incs are more special than the tons of other's Infidels have been ignoring for a few days already?
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Not that it matters or affects what your post suggested, but why do you think Norseless incs are more special than the tons of other's Infidels have been ignoring for a few days already?
Aiming this specially at Joesephs gal tbh and hc
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Why does noone care about obvious farming agreements?
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Every round eor same people boosting planets to #1 May as well make a 60man tag then let each one be roofed by one planet
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Now apprime on infidels too 😂😂


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OMG stop, it's boring. No one agrees with you. It wasn't illegal, it wasn't cheating.it also wasn't in the spirit of the game, but then there is no official rules to govern that. Just unwritten ones which the community abides by mostly.

Just because you say something a lot doesn't make it true, no matter how much you need it to be so to justify your own lack of creativity, originality and ability in this game.
After the mz/Benneh incident, everyone agrees with Butcher.
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After the mz/Benneh incident, everyone agrees with Butcher.
I hope for the sake of the game allies put everything aside and focus on bringing down 2:6:10 absolutely absurd what joseph has done there and jay to boot.
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I hope for the sake of the game allies put everything aside and focus on bringing down 2:6:10 absolutely absurd what joseph has done there and jay to boot.
Its kinda funny that even though after 1100 ticks of witnessing 2:6 cheating, and accepting it, suddently Apprime is gonna play the morale guardian now, as all other enemies are dead.
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Not been able to orchestrate obviously we have our own agenda I wont deny that.

But facts are facts blatant open cheating like this if PA team won't do anything about it what else are we left to do?

explain to me how 70k fi managed to land on a xan with all them ghosts?

Then he manages to wake up to use his ghosts 2 ticks later.
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Not been able to orchestrate obviously we have our own agenda I wont deny that.

But facts are facts blatant open cheating like this if PA team won't do anything about it what else are we left to do?

explain to me how 70k fi managed to land on a xan with all them ghosts?

Then he manages to wake up to use his ghosts 2 ticks later.
He was even able to scan attacker
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I know complete joke.
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Not been able to orchestrate obviously we have our own agenda I wont deny that.

But facts are facts blatant open cheating like this if PA team won't do anything about it what else are we left to do?

explain to me how 70k fi managed to land on a xan with all them ghosts?

Then he manages to wake up to use his ghosts 2 ticks later.
Its no rules against coordinated farming. The only thing that can get you closed is if you agree on it in ingame mail.
Its a community problem, and only the community can do anything about it.
If you report things like this to the MHs, they will simply just ban you from their channels eventualy.
XP farming/roid farming/ship farming/etc has been going on within Infidels/Future/Nelito groups for ages, yet Apprime has been working with them all round up untill when they had their hands free to go kill them?

As RexDrax pointed out it seems like certain alliances only take a stand against cheating when it suits them.

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He was even able to scan attacker
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It's just too much come on this is absolutely rediculous
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Well unfortunately the community won't do anything against it because half the people that have been following Joseph are cheaters themselves.

Not that he's the only one cheating, but he's been the most blatant in the last 2.

Prob will be bragging in the EOR chat again how good his gal is or something.
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Its kinda funny that even though after 1100 ticks of witnessing 2:6 cheating, and accepting it, suddently Apprime is gonna play the morale guardian now, as all other enemies are dead.
Not to mention Apprime's history. It makes one wonders what is the scheme behind it
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Farming
Farming is illegal. The definitions of farming are, but are not limited to:

A. Attacking a target with his/her consent to get his/her asteroids/ships

B. Defending against someone who is attacking with their consent to steal their ships.

C. Abusing game features in order to gain excessive XP (e.g. roid farming)

D. Doing either a, b or c by using multi-planets

taken from: http://game.planetarion.com/terms.pl

So yes, there's a rule against farming. It's in the Terms and Conditions we all approved when signing up to the game.
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Farmer-Bob:

Farming
Farming is illegal. The definitions of farming are, but are not limited to:

A. Attacking a target with his/her consent to get his/her asteroids/ships

B. Defending against someone who is attacking with their consent to steal their ships.

C. Abusing game features in order to gain excessive XP (e.g. roid farming)

D. Doing either a, b or c by using multi-planets

taken from: http://game.planetarion.com/terms.pl

So yes, there's a rule against farming. It's in the Terms and Conditions we all approved when signing up to the game.

Who enforces these rules then?

If a target can inc scan and sees 70k fi coming and he runs and hides his ghost then both planets should be closed ?
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Farmer-Bob:

Farming
Farming is illegal. The definitions of farming are, but are not limited to:

A. Attacking a target with his/her consent to get his/her asteroids/ships

B. Defending against someone who is attacking with their consent to steal their ships.

C. Abusing game features in order to gain excessive XP (e.g. roid farming)

D. Doing either a, b or c by using multi-planets

taken from: http://game.planetarion.com/terms.pl

So yes, there's a rule against farming. It's in the Terms and Conditions we all approved when signing up to the game.
How are you gonna prove that someone has giving their consent?
As i said, in my post, its allowed to farm unless you give a consent using ingame mail.
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Ingame mail isn't a requirement for consent, nor IRC logs, or WA logs or any other logs. Just hiding your ships for a wave is consent as such, especially if you can inc scan and would easily cover.

The rules should be enforced by the multihunter-team. And in my personal opinion: in cases where the farming is obvious and blatant (like this) closing both should be the de facto procedure. BUT, I am NOT a multihunter and as things stand, most likely won't be in the near future.
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We aren't sentencing anyone to jail.
We aren't ruining anyone's life.
We shouldn't need actual proof like love-sms or ingame mail.
We should be closing suspected cheaters if a dedicated team thinks they are cheating.

Do you think big MMO's have indisputable proof for every farm-bot they close? Those people could just be running that route you know. They close it because they are pretty sure it's cheating. That should (and used to be) enough in pa as well.

This means Ace needs to be booted and another team needs to be put in place. Mh's should have the final say in the closures, not the planets being closed.
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Love how everyone blames Ace instead of blaming the system he works to.

The multi hunter system is what is wrong. If you took 2 mins to find out all the mh team are actually nice and competent at what they do, they are just in a position which screwed them as much as it screws us.

The MH team should be a fixed term appointment and you shouldn't be able to apply/reapply to be one unless you have played 2 active rounds prior to the current one. The poor guys and girls are just out of touch with how the game is played now, even Appoco sounds like a remincising relic at EoRC. They need to be current in their play so they can make the needed changes to the rules to make the game fairer.

We should instead of crying here petition the PA team to make the upgrades to their infrastructure for good of the game. They managed to revamp the stats making, this shouldn't be hard to do in other areas.

Finally butcher if you act in their channel like you do in here peddling bollocks 24/7 I'd kick you too
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Most of us paying to play this game. Fix the obiously shit pa team or we want our money back
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Love how everyone blames Ace instead of blaming the system he works to.

The multi hunter system is what is wrong. If you took 2 mins to find out all the mh team are actually nice and competent at what they do, they are just in a position which screwed them as much as it screws us.

The MH team should be a fixed term appointment and you shouldn't be able to apply/reapply to be one unless you have played 2 active rounds prior to the current one. The poor guys and girls are just out of touch with how the game is played now, even Appoco sounds like a remincising relic at EoRC. They need to be current in their play so they can make the needed changes to the rules to make the game fairer.

We should instead of crying here petition the PA team to make the upgrades to their infrastructure for good of the game. They managed to revamp the stats making, this shouldn't be hard to do in other areas.

Finally butcher if you act in their channel like you do in here peddling bollocks 24/7 I'd kick you too

No one is saying ace isn't a lovely decent bloke. Heck.. I'm sure he's the sort of guy you would invite over for Sunday dinner.

However, when I last played actively in round 30 he was dried up inactive and not doing his job...

40 rounds on he's still there.... wtf ???
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No one really cares about cheating unless it affects one's rank. Actually, unless it blatantly affects the ranks and occurs during the last 100 ticks.
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