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Unread 12 Nov 2014, 23:04   #201
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So, ND/Rainbows vs RATprime
What else is going on? I think I noticed faceless hitting CT?
Don't forget rock aswell. Rainbows just trolling out the remainder of the round cos they lost 2v1.
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Yeah, the cat's out of the bag. The mighty ROCK are hitting Ult too. A few words on that though:

Whatever people may think about whether Rainbows are a training alliance or not, ROCK really are. Go on, look at the numbers a moment: 28 players, average score around the 1.5m mark. 8-10 of those are people who started late and applied in-game because they didn't know who else to talk to. A full third of our membership is still on 6-figure scores. We have a lot of newbies compared to everyone else, a lot of 4 or 5-hour prelaunches, a screwed up race mix and not a whole load of def cover, and we're playing purely for fun, not politics. We've got some nice people, some of them actually active and chatty (!), but up until last night we were hitting whichever gal was hovering around the #50 mark and looking a bit fat for it, and sometimes not even landing that. When the round started, we had no active HC whatsoever, which I presume is why I ended up being press-ganged into HC 2 days after coming back to the game after a 15-ish round hiatus.

The answer to why we're working with Rainbows is a complex one, and involves many points, which are outlined as follows:

1) They asked us if we wanted to.
2) cr0 is smexy.
3) See 2.


Politics doesn't come into it - this is just so our newbies get to know what it's like to work together on big targets for a bit. Given that we only have the numbers to a) hit a very small gal, or b) hit 2 or 3 big planets, I don't think it really matters to the grand universal scheme of things which option we take. It's not going to be forever, but when we stop it'll be because either ROCK or Rainbows isn't interested in it anymore, and that'll be just fine. We'll go back to hitting whoever's #50 again, and teaching our members how to cover efficiently without panicking or crashing their fleets.

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Yeah, the cat's out of the bag. The mighty ROCK are hitting Ult too. A few words on that though:

Whatever people may think about whether Rainbows are a training alliance or not, ROCK really are. Go on, look at the numbers a moment: 28 players, average score around the 1.5m mark. 8-10 of those are people who started late and applied in-game because they didn't know who else to talk to. A full third of our membership is still on 6-figure scores. We have a lot of newbies compared to everyone else, a lot of 4 or 5-hour prelaunches, a screwed up race mix and not a whole load of def cover, and we're playing purely for fun, not politics. We've got some nice people, some of them actually active and chatty (!), but up until last night we were hitting whichever gal was hovering around the #50 mark and looking a bit fat for it, and sometimes not even landing that. When the round started, we had no active HC whatsoever, which I presume is why I ended up being press-ganged into HC 2 days after coming back to the game after a 15-ish round hiatus.

The answer to why we're working with Rainbows is a complex one, and involves many points, which are outlined as follows:

1) They asked us if we wanted to.
2) cr0 is smexy.
3) See 2.


Politics doesn't come into it - this is just so our newbies get to know what it's like to work together on big targets for a bit. Given that we only have the numbers to a) hit a very small gal, or b) hit 2 or 3 big planets, I don't think it really matters to the grand universal scheme of things which option we take. It's not going to be forever, but when we stop it'll be because either ROCK or Rainbows isn't interested in it anymore, and that'll be just fine. We'll go back to hitting whoever's #50 again, and teaching our members how to cover efficiently without panicking or crashing their fleets.

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Yeah, the cat's out of the bag. The mighty ROCK are hitting Ult too. A few words on that though:

Whatever people may think about whether Rainbows are a training alliance or not, ROCK really are. Go on, look at the numbers a moment: 28 players, average score around the 1.5m mark. 8-10 of those are people who started late and applied in-game because they didn't know who else to talk to. A full third of our membership is still on 6-figure scores. We have a lot of newbies compared to everyone else, a lot of 4 or 5-hour prelaunches, a screwed up race mix and not a whole load of def cover, and we're playing purely for fun, not politics. We've got some nice people, some of them actually active and chatty (!), but up until last night we were hitting whichever gal was hovering around the #50 mark and looking a bit fat for it, and sometimes not even landing that. When the round started, we had no active HC whatsoever, which I presume is why I ended up being press-ganged into HC 2 days after coming back to the game after a 15-ish round hiatus.

The answer to why we're working with Rainbows is a complex one, and involves many points, which are outlined as follows:

1) They asked us if we wanted to.
2) cr0 is smexy.
3) See 2.


Politics doesn't come into it - this is just so our newbies get to know what it's like to work together on big targets for a bit. Given that we only have the numbers to a) hit a very small gal, or b) hit 2 or 3 big planets, I don't think it really matters to the grand universal scheme of things which option we take. It's not going to be forever, but when we stop it'll be because either ROCK or Rainbows isn't interested in it anymore, and that'll be just fine. We'll go back to hitting whoever's #50 again, and teaching our members how to cover efficiently without panicking or crashing their fleets.

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Don't start off by saying you are not doing politics, and continue by saying you are helping Rainbows vs Ultores. That is almost as lame as how Rainbows played their politics last round and this round.
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Re: Round 59 gossip thread

"Politics" implies we care who wins or loses, which we never did, and frankly we're not big enough to affect things one way or the other. Rainbows asked us if we wanted to run some shared attacks, we said okay, it was fun for a couple of nights, but we had no idea beforehand who we were going to hit, and we're kinda done with it now anyway.

Sometimes it really is about just launching fleets and trying to steal some roids, rather than inflating or bruising egos.
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Sometimes it really is about just launching fleets and trying to steal some roids, rather than inflating or bruising egos.
All the time it is about launching fleets.
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Don't start off by saying you are not doing politics, and continue by saying you are helping Rainbows vs Ultores. That is almost as lame as how Rainbows played their politics last round and this round.
Exactly how have Bows been playing their politics this and last round?
Last round we had you in PM everytime your gal got incs.
We did not play any politics last round, and our intetion was to stay away from blocking up this round. Even though Inferno was beggin us to fully support them when they had incs early on, we choose not to block up against alliances wich was ranked lower than us.
This round we have had Nortons lol waves in our incomming screen after CarDi got roided one time.
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Exactly how have Bows been playing their politics this and last round?
Last round we had you in PM everytime your gal got incs.
We did not play any politics last round, and our intetion was to stay away from blocking up this round. Even though Inferno was beggin us to fully support them when they had incs early on, we choose not to block up against alliances wich was ranked lower than us.
This round we have had Nortons lol waves in our incomming screen after CarDi got roided one time.
After you ptarget us*

Before that you had 1-2 waves that you got pretty upset about.
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Exactly how have Bows been playing their politics this and last round?
Last round we had you in PM everytime your gal got incs.
We did not play any politics last round, and our intetion was to stay away from blocking up this round. Even though Inferno was beggin us to fully support them when they had incs early on, we choose not to block up against alliances wich was ranked lower than us.
This round we have had Nortons lol waves in our incomming screen after CarDi got roided one time.
bla bla bla.. full of piss, you have several posts that disaproove your statement about avoiding politics last round.

"We chose to play like shit again, with crap leaders doing nothing to improve alliance chanse at a decent rank. We have no goals what so ever, besides having 'fun' and getting established."
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After you ptarget us*

Before that you had 1-2 waves that you got pretty upset about.
You just cant accept that CarDi organized the waves on us can u? :/
One of your HCs allready said that was the case, so its no point denying CarDi set it all up for you
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I do believe Norton's is an equal opportunity airlines^^
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You just cant accept that CarDi organized the waves on us can u? :/
One of your HCs allready said that was the case, so its no point denying CarDi set it all up for you
That's a good one.
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That's a good one.
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So CarDi did not tell Nortons to hit our top planets?
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Exactly how have Bows been playing their politics this and last round?
So you didn't block with Black Flag and HR last round?

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Your "intention" yet you still managed to block with ND/HR.
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So you didn't block with Black Flag and HR last round?



Your "intention" yet you still managed to block with ND/HR.
Indeed we tried our best to take p3nguins off the top spot, have we suceeded earlier perhaps in the end woudlve broken off BF if we thought that was the right thing to do.
Last round we barely did politics before we got raped, same with this round.
If ND and Bows was above Ulthores, and we choose to still block up on them, surely you would be correct pointing a finger.
We how ever atm are far behind Ult in value/roids/score, and Ult is a far more competent war machine than Bows.
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Indeed we tried our best to take p3nguins off the top spot, have we suceeded earlier perhaps in the end woudlve broken off BF if we thought that was the right thing to do.
Last round we barely did politics before we got raped, same with this round.
If ND and Bows was above Ulthores, and we choose to still block up on them, surely you would be correct pointing a finger.
We how ever atm are far behind Ult in value/roids/score, and Ult is a far more competent war machine than Bows.
You really don't have a clue how your alliance has operated the past two rounds, do you. Your constant incompetent presence on AD is just dragging your alliance's reputation down.
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You really don't have a clue how your alliance has operated the past two rounds, do you. Your constant incompetent presence on AD is just dragging your alliance's reputation down.
I Guess Your the one who knows how we operated then :crymeariver:
What should we have done? P3ng was Our top hostile one period last round, they were running away with the win, you saying that we decided to help you out to even the sides out was the wrong thing to do? After all p3ng did win the round, even with the help you had from HR and Bows
PA usualy is about fighting your way up the ranks, within the rules that you set for yourself.
If BF got the most roids, you will get the most incs normaly, beliving that having anything below 80 incs when you are #1 is living in la-la-land.
If we hit you last round it either was out of what we felt as provoktion, or cus you were just good targets. Not everyone belives in looking for roids below their own alliance rank.
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I Guess Your the one who knows how we operated then :crymeariver:
What should we have done? P3ng was Our top hostile one period last round, they were running away with the win, you saying that we decided to help you out to even the sides out was the wrong thing to do? After all p3ng did win the round, even with the help you had from HR and Bows
PA usualy is about fighting your way up the ranks, within the rules that you set for yourself.
If BF got the most roids, you will get the most incs normaly, beliving that having anything below 80 incs when you are #1 is living in la-la-land.
If we hit you last round it either was out of what we felt as provoktion, or cus you were just good targets. Not everyone belives in looking for roids below their own alliance rank.
I'm not at all complaining, I'm merely showing that what you're saying about Bows not participating in blocks is just bullshit, because evidently you do.
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Butcher.. accept the fact that you are simply the worst hc in pa history and stop your trolling on the forums of others.

Id rather be hc'd by yoshika, nelito and light than you and damn thats saying something.

You my friend damage the reputation of anything your corrupt lieing fingers touch.

I feel sorry for people you are trying to "train" most of all because all you are good at is being useless.
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You just cant accept that CarDi organized the waves on us can u? :/
One of your HCs allready said that was the case, so its no point denying CarDi set it all up for you
Who did?
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Butcher.. accept the fact that you are simply the worst hc in pa history and stop your trolling on the forums of others.

Id rather be hc'd by yoshika, nelito and light than you and damn thats saying something.

You my friend damage the reputation of anything your corrupt lieing fingers touch.

I feel sorry for people you are trying to "train" most of all because all you are good at is being useless.
I feel sad I was missed off the list
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Butcher.. accept the fact that you are simply the worst hc in pa history and stop your trolling on the forums of others.

Id rather be hc'd by yoshika, nelito and light than you and damn thats saying something.

You my friend damage the reputation of anything your corrupt lieing fingers touch.

I feel sorry for people you are trying to "train" most of all because all you are good at is being useless.
Keeping in mind that you were CEO of "DeadSoliders" a few 10-15 rounds back, that hurts.
iirc your HC team managed to hold together for 300 ticks before starting devouring each other and EMOing. I actualy think you ended up with having Kaiba, Yoshika and Forest running your alliance that round?
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I'm not at all complaining, I'm merely showing that what you're saying about Bows not participating in blocks is just bullshit, because evidently you do.
Its much easier to defend joining a "block" when you are ranked 6-10, and loosing ground.
Inferno indeed did ask us to join a block earlier this round to p-target BF/p3n/whatever early in this round, something that we did not do as Inf/Bows was 1 and 2 iirc at that time.
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starting round we had 9 tags running close, then 2 droped down ranks, now 2 more.

im curious about who gonna be the next one leaving the top tag fight =)
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Butcher can i join rainbows pls?
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Keeping in mind that you were CEO of "DeadSoliders" a few 10-15 rounds back, that hurts.
iirc your HC team managed to hold together for 300 ticks before starting devouring each other and EMOing. I actualy think you ended up with having Kaiba, Yoshika and Forest running your alliance that round?
almost tempted to say rather them than you, but it's pretty much the same. Bad leaders turns into a bad alliance. An alliance is rarely any better than it's leaders. Ranks speaks for itself, and you sir have slim to nothing to show for besides your endless brag about "HC'ing" FAnG.
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Keeping in mind that you were CEO of "DeadSoliders" a few 10-15 rounds back, that hurts.
iirc your HC team managed to hold together for 300 ticks before starting devouring each other and EMOing. I actualy think you ended up with having Kaiba, Yoshika and Forest running your alliance that round?

Actually it was me, nelito and Fizz. Baddars had to stop cos of rl shizz. Forest came later when us 3 had given up and ended up running a dead alliance with chronox.

Whilst Baddars was able to play it was a smooth running alliance. He is actually a good HC.

I have played in alliance with you for 1 round and your ideas are so bent and make no logical sense that you a) become a target for veterans to mock you and b) ruin the understanding of the game for n00bs.

I may not be the best but I pride myself on being able help new players giving them accurate information and helpful advice. I'm sure plenty would agree on this.
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Teaching 'noobs' how to play is something different from running a winning alliance.
Its a matter of expectations. People can laugh at alliance X for 'losing', but if it was never the intention of alliance X to win... then i dont see a problem.

I mention alliance X on purpose cause its not upto me to decide who views itself that way.
However, the above has in many rounds been "abused". For example some top alliance have tried to win all round, but ended up losing claiming "we didnt care about the win anyways".
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No matter what you may think of his style of AD posting, Butcher's alliances at least tend to hold together, when most alliances don't see out their first round. He's got that going for him, at least.
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No matter what you may think of his style of AD posting, Butcher's alliances at least tend to hold together, when most alliances don't see out their first round. He's got that going for him, at least.
Butchers alliances??

What other alliances has he helped create except Rainbows? And as far as I'm aware Bows is 90% cr0 and greencat
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I may not be the best but I pride myself on being able help new players giving them accurate information and helpful advice. I'm sure plenty would agree on this.
Define that accurate information and helpful advice.
Maybe you can make an improved newbie guide for the forums then.
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No matter what you may think of his style of AD posting, Butcher's alliances at least tend to hold together, when most alliances don't see out their first round. He's got that going for him, at least.
Bitch3r is afk 90% of the time, pops back for 5 minutes, spouts random shite and sods off again.
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mz - how many players this round compared to previous rounds? iirc you always had the data for this
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almost tempted to say rather them than you, but it's pretty much the same. Bad leaders turns into a bad alliance. An alliance is rarely any better than it's leaders. Ranks speaks for itself, and you sir have slim to nothing to show for besides your endless brag about "HC'ing" FAnG.
Whilst plenty would call me a bad leader, plenty more would say I am a good leader.
I would suggest my history is fairly good compared to a lot of others.

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Actually it was me, nelito and Fizz. Baddars had to stop cos of rl shizz. Forest came later when us 3 had given up and ended up running a dead alliance with chronox.
This is true, I just came along and tried to keep it going for the benefit of the few planets still remaining so as not to ruin their round
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Bitch3r is afk 90% of the time, pops back for 5 minutes, spouts random shite and sods off again.
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mz - how many players this round compared to previous rounds? iirc you always had the data for this
749 end of last round, 824 now. Pretty graph: https://i.imgur.com/0lsQAdT.png (This round not included.)
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So with only 10% effort, his alliances beat the averages?


749 end of last round, 824 now. Pretty graph: https://i.imgur.com/0lsQAdT.png (This round not included.)
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It's hilarious to see, that no matter what discussion is going on, Kaiba and B-Butcher always end up b*tchslapping
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Whilst plenty would call me a bad leader, plenty more would say I am a good leader.
I would suggest my history is fairly good compared to a lot of others.

But meh...
Been around here a few rounds ... still waiting on someone to say you are a good leader.
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Pals according to statistic cardi is best hc in pa.
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still waiting for the list of alliances butcher has hced in or created please
R2-3 some ATC HC, R4 Fusi0n officer, R5 ReBorn officer/HC, R6 HC, R7 Thunder HC, R11-R18 1up officer, R48 ODDR HC, R49 FAnG HC, R50 ROCK HC, R51 ODDR HC, Spore whine king r52-r55, then RainBowS.
******** Elysium officer and ROCK, hydra/omen HC.
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Been around here a few rounds ... still waiting on someone to say you are a good leader.
He actual aint that bad when he can challenge his entusiams the right way.
The only way to being able to judge ones HC abilties is when you HC alongside them.
The invisible HC "duties" normaly is much more important and time consuming than the visible ones.
For me a good leader is able to accept that he does something wrong or did rash and longtermwise stupid choices. His ego dosnt overgo his ability to be rational
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Pals according to statistic cardi is best hc in pa.
Thats what he told me too, all the rounds he didnt win they only played for fun
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******** Elysium officer and ROCK, hydra/omen HC.
at what point were u Omen HC?
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Didnt mention you kaiba because i actually like you!
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And butcher dS went to shit when i had to stop playing due to my wife ending up in hospital.. from my rememberence dS was quite clear at the top until i had to step back... but i appologise.. how dare my wife end up seriously ill in hospital... i should have left her to it and told her pa was more important!
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Clearly you have amnesia.
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R2-3 some ATC HC, R4 Fusi0n officer, R5 ReBorn officer/HC, R6 HC, R7 Thunder HC, R11-R18 1up officer, R48 ODDR HC, R49 FAnG HC, R50 ROCK HC, R51 ODDR HC, Spore whine king r52-r55, then RainBowS.
******** Elysium officer and ROCK, hydra/omen HC.
Not trying to create a show off list, just replying to your question.
Now I have been told that a lot of these titles in the list are false or embellished. I'm not sure what you class as HC but for example it's been established that despite your claims you didn't HC in Fang.

I cannot comment on the pre pax alliances because I wasn't around then but what I'm getting from this list is that you never hced somewhere for more than 1 round and moved alliance the round after. A real lack of commitment if you ask me. Plus all the alliances you mention have had all the creation groundwork done before you hced.

So in conclusion this list says you have been a flaky hc who jumps from ally to ally, have never made anything of your own and have ended up dragging the name of some long-standing alliances (oddr/rock) through the mud with your AD antics.

Pretty sure you will move on from Bows this round to be an officer in whatever alliance is mug enough to take and then lower everyone's opinion of them for 7 weeks. Then rinse repeat
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