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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 13:51   #101
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Heroes is not Ults second tag
You should have just asked us for our member list but then intel was never assmans strongest asset and maybe he is sulking because we didn't accept the ingame request for a nap

At a guess I'd say less than half of our tag has played more than a rd in ult
What are you then? Hitch-hikers?
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 13:59   #102
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Now HR has big losses.
Did they target faceless forts aswell?
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 14:12   #103
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Hr hit 1 spore fort and that prompted spore and nd to ptarget them. Nd even broke its fort agreements with hr to do so. Petty.
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Heroes is not Ults second tag
HEROES have always been buddies with Apprime, and Apprime are playing in Ultores this round thus working with them. But I wouldn't call HEROES their second tag.

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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 15:22   #105
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I don't care how it started, but i'm so glad we are at war with CT, they would have warred us at some stage anyway, so better we get on with it now ay! CT will forever have a hardon for us, and continually wish for our demise, regardless of the costs to the stagnation of a round.

At least this round they have decided to war us when we are #1, and not when we are below t3, and still form a block for that

Also many people are speculating that Faceless and Blackflag will nap the entire round with us, without any aim for #1, but you can't make that assumption based on the actions of other such retardedly lame allies (no names mentioned). I honestly think that both will make an attempt for it, and that will make for an interesting round, i look forward to raging as my roids disappear
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 15:38   #106
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HEROES have always been buddies with Apprime, and Apprime are playing in Ultores this round thus working with Ultores. But I wouldn't call HEROES their second tag.
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Heroes is not Ults second tag
You should have just asked us for our member list but then intel was never assmans strongest asset and maybe he is sulking because we didn't accept the ingame request for a nap

At a guess I'd say less than half of our tag has played more than a rd in ult
FAnG also applied for nap, but got declined!!! Why?
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 17:10   #108
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FAnG also applied for nap, but got declined!!! Why?
Because not every nap needs to be accepted?

Surely it is better to judge each application of Non Aggression on a case by case basis and decide if it is really needed.
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 17:43   #109
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FAnG also applied for nap, but got declined!!! Why?
Sadly we no longer blindly accept nap requests from angels. It was not an easy decision.
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 18:48   #110
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FAnG also applied for nap, but got declined!!! Why?
No sense limiting our targeting options
Plus we kinda prefer some sort of dialogue before agreeing to anything
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 19:29   #111
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No sense limiting our targeting options
Plus we kinda prefer some sort of dialogue before agreeing to anything
since when did you guys have targetting options?
i didn't even realize you guys chose yourselves.
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Sadly we no longer blindly accept nap requests from angels. It was not an easy decision.
Can we please have the discussion and smoke some peace-pipe?
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Unread 12 Jun 2014, 21:54   #113
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Of course we expected them to hit us sooner rather than later, it's just laughable that they used this as a 'excuse' to do so, rather than 'we want to hit our biggest competitor for #1'
I'm obviously not privy to your private conversations with CT HC but I imagine if you asked them directly they'd probably quite openly admit that warring you for the inc you sent wasn't without context. You can call that dishonest (which is what I assume you mean by putting the word excuse in quotation marks), or you can call it so blindingly obvious that it doesn't require explicitly typing out to someone you've presumably had the same conversation with multiple times.

You suggest that being their competition for #1 (or rather - you're the favourites to win and sitting in first place) is the reason why they're doing it, which although presumably - and rightly - would also inform that decision, I can off the top of my head think of a few more which aren't so easily framed as covert ruthlessness:

1: You're also the most likely to bash CT whether winning or not
2: You're also likely to build comparably larger fleets the longer your inevitable war is postponed
3: Allowing Ult to send plausibly (but probably not) random, smallish inc at you whilst offering only comparable levels of inc back, is probably the dumbest possible way to let Ult roid you. Ult are going to consistently roid CT with that level of inc, whilst CT are never going to roid Ult. Not only that but without biting back harder, you've inviting it to happen again. I'm sure the App HC in your alliance can give you a more thorough expounding of this particular tactic.
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At least this round they have decided to war us when we are #1, and not when we are below t3, and still form a block for that
Quick fact check, how many rounds have CT declared war on you when you were 1st and how many times when you were below 3rd?
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But seriously can the 3rd and 5th ranked alliance please stop ganging up on the 2nd and currently 1st ranked and historically most successful alliance in planetarion history, it's turning my stomach.
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since when did you guys have targetting options?
i didn't even realize you guys chose yourselves.
Migz will be very upset, he puts at least 3 minutes into target selection every night
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Wow Spore, your really sinking lower and lower! Good job!
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oil why are you always so angry? would you like to talk about it?
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Wow Spore, your really sinking lower and lower! Good job!
I'll bite.
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Blah blah blah

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I am glad Oil is on my team now. Hes much better at trolling than butch3r. Hands off Hunter!
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Ultores/Faceless you have made your point on p3ngs, stop sucking each other off, end your alliance and war each other for #1
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So you guys can sneakily sit there with 0 incs and get fat while we both get roided?
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Ultores/Faceless you have made your point on p3ngs, stop sucking each other off, end your alliance and war each other for #1
Its ok we can admit defeat. We cant withstand incoming from both of them (plus the odd gal raid from others it seems) so will be interesting to see who will be next or they are welcome to keep hitting us either way, eventually they will have nothing left to gain
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does it look like we are sitting here with 0 incs and getting fat?
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does it look like we are sitting here with 0 incs and getting fat?
If ult and faceless war eachother then that would be the case for ct and p3ng
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I won't lie, I'd like to sit with 0 incs and get fat. Won't you help a poor fella out?

Interested in seeing the Faceless plan for the rest of the round tho, they're looking in good shape now.
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I won't lie, I'd like to sit with 0 incs and get fat. Won't you help a poor fella out?

Interested in seeing the Faceless plan for the rest of the round tho, they're looking in good shape now.
Maybe they are happy with 2nd, who knows. Still a lot of roids outside top2
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Ultores/Faceless you have made your point on p3ngs, stop sucking each other off, end your alliance and war each other for #1
Really happy to quit naptarion again after this round. 24h of fun for 5 tho. Better value for money than most Saturdays I guess!
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Interested in seeing the Faceless plan for the rest of the round tho, they're looking in good shape now.
You could argue that BF are in just as good a position, currently they have two forts at #1 and #2. Biggest Faceless fort is in 7th.
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Ultores/Faceless you have made your point on p3ngs, stop sucking each other off, end your alliance and war each other for #1
kekekeke, as far as i know Ult is not the one who started warring as we are a peaceful alliance. We prolly need to recover after the pressure that has been put on us so there is no need to war another ally then. Odds are pretty high CT and p3ng will just offer their help then to create the first block. Not because you plan to but it seems to be in your DNA, can't fight your genome.

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i lol'd when someone told ults we were trying to organize a block, you guys know we don't try, we do! the fact there is no block means we haven't tried.
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Seems like FL and Ultprime have gained some distance to everyone else, have the rest of the uni given up?
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the gap between first and 8th is only 20mil, that can be made up in a week easily
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In theory that gap maybe bridgeable, but has the 8th ranked alliance ever in practice made up such a gap?
Similarly has an alliance already beaten ever come back to beat their same opponents in a 2nd war during a round?
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In theory that gap maybe bridgeable, but has the 8th ranked alliance ever in practice made up such a gap?
Similarly has an alliance already beaten ever come back to beat their same opponents in a 2nd war during a round?
the currently ranked 8th alliance has never won a round afaik. but it is possible to make up 20mil in a week so hypothetically speaking they could.

Many alliances have come from an initial hiding early in round to eventually win that round
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the currently ranked 8th alliance has never won a round afaik. but it is possible to make up 20mil in a week so hypothetically speaking they could.

Many alliances have come from an initial hiding early in round to eventually win that round
I think the fact that the size from the top 2 to the rest of the univers is allready so big, it tells me this is only a two allie race atm.
If Ult and FL is still in the green tommorow, the round is over for all other allies. A siege on either one wont be as effective moving closer to the weekend.
Spore were left alone with no incs too long last round, im quite suprised the same HC team of FAnG last round is gonna do the same mistake again with the current BF
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im quite suprised the same HC team of FAnG last round is gonna do the same mistake again with the current BF
And what mistake is this exactly?
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You can hardly say the top two alliances have both played without inc as spore did last round.
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And what mistake is this exactly?
Helping the top alliance(s) win with no benefits for their own alliance.
Maybe p3n and CT are further behind, but im sure their members must be more fullfilled with their round so far.
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You can hardly say the top two alliances have both played without inc as spore did last round.
Spore had incs aswell last round.
Im not even sure if the HCs of the allies not hitting Ult/FL block know how the stats in rounds like this effects joint efforts on alliances with big value lead.
Looking at the race/ship strat of the top 2, they are gonna be HARD to roid later on.
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Helping the top alliance(s) win with no benefits for their own alliance.
Maybe p3n and CT are further behind, but im sure their members must be more fullfilled with their round so far.
I don't see how Black Flag have been helping both the top 2 win. They are a newly established alliance, and the goal this round is to build on a stable core.

As I have said in previous rounds, not every tag needs to make it their business to take down the #1 alliance.
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Im positivly surprised Faceless has been doing so good this far.

First round mergers is usually hard to handle, Faceless did merge with Nelito`s Immortals right?

Being a full tag of 60 that always attracts alot of incs, they seem to roid good when left alone and running a tight ship in def atm.

i heard p3ng hit some BF forts last night.. and Clouds putting in hours keeping them safe CT have a decent memberbase but have politicly played a bad hand so far this round..
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Im positivly surprised Faceless has been doing so good this far.

First round mergers is usually hard to handle, Faceless did merge with Nelito`s Immortals right?

Being a full tag of 60 that always attracts alot of incs, they seem to roid good when left alone and running a tight ship in def atm.

i heard p3ng hit some BF forts last night.. and Clouds putting in hours keeping them safe CT have a decent memberbase but have politicly played a bad hand so far this round..
Your surprised Faceless has been doing so good this far? Im not.

They made avoidance agreements from pretty much tick start with Ult, BF and also p3ng at one point. They then napped with Ult and hit p3ng together along with Heroes.

Top it all of 'rumour has it' as well as P targeting p3ng the last 3 nights I hear they asked Black Flag to join them last night...

And you wonder why they have done so well? Seems quite easy to me. They have avoided the other 2 alliances in the top 3. They are raiding an allie which got hit by 3 allies and pretty much is low on both roids and possibly morale. They haven't had any true incoming to test them.

And with regards to Black Flag p3ng hit 1 fort gal last night.. and now Black Flag have decided to instead of hit someone useful they join in with faceless on hitting an allie which is 5th on 26.5k roids.. maybe 2nd and 3rd need to grow some balls and hit an actual target.
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P3ng has put themselves in this situation tbh.
Ult did not have many p3ng on their galraids and was only galraiding, then p3ng and ct did an offensive hitting ult.. Faceless hit p3ng and p3ng asked for ceasefire for a while from ult..

Then 1st or second night to rebuild the troops and work on the long game they go ahead and roid one of BF`s top forts?
Everyone knows if you have an allie avoiding incs hitting one of their strongest forts will result in getting hostiles..

its quite simple, p3ng is playing horrible.. noone to blame but themselves for sticking their nose into waters filled with sharks!
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And with regards to Black Flag p3ng hit 1 fort gal last night.. and now Black Flag have decided to instead of hit someone useful they join in with faceless on hitting an allie which is 5th on 26.5k roids..
P3nguins have been trying to provoke Black Flag for a while now. Last night you hit a 6 man fort, the night previously you hit 1 and a half forts. Also, prior to your war with Ultores, you decided to ptarget us because we hit a fort when intel was slacking (t24-150). All of which Black Flag hadn't responded to.

Maybe you considered Black Flag as easy roids, as you were landing them early in the round, but from a political point of view, P3nguins have been quite hostile. Black Flag have not hit P3nguins yet, your accusations are just assumptions.

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maybe 2nd and 3rd need to grow some balls and hit an actual target.
Maybe you should stop trying to provoke us?
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P3ng has put themselves in this situation tbh.
Ult did not have many p3ng on their galraids and was only galraiding, then p3ng and ct did an offensive hitting ult.. Faceless hit p3ng and p3ng asked for ceasefire for a while from ult..

Then 1st or second night to rebuild the troops and work on the long game they go ahead and roid one of BF`s top forts?
Everyone knows if you have an allie avoiding incs hitting one of their strongest forts will result in getting hostiles..

its quite simple, p3ng is playing horrible.. noone to blame but themselves for sticking their nose into waters filled with sharks!
Actually, Ult hit a p3ng fort the same night BF hit another before this 'war' took place

Obviously p3ng failed in this war and from what I hear did admit this openly to Ult where an 'agreement' was apparently made (I hear Ult made an agreement for Faceless to which didn't seem to happen) but that's another story.

My point still stands, I am not arguing p3nguins politics have been poor this round, nor am I arguing they have played a bad round. I am arguing Faceless, an allie which is currently second, would rather bash a target which is currently 5th with the 3rd ranked alliance, then hit 1st. That's how pathetic this game has now become

And we wont even start mentioning how many times Black Flag have hit forts in other allies and claimed they are just 'gal raiding' (ive seen the logs) so to now declare war over something they do themselves on a regular basis I find moronic.
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