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Unread 20 Oct 2003, 20:41   #1
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New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/982566.asp?0na=x2226271-

well, there are 'threats' made all the time basically....but will they actually launch a big attack again anytime soon?
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

They will attack again on the 13th November.
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

thats propaganda only.
if you would really plan a large terrorist attack, would you run around and tell people about it? doesnt make much sence to me.
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

Remember people, "Duck and Cover"
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

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thats propaganda only.
if you would really plan a large terrorist attack, would you run around and tell people about it? doesnt make much sence to me.
Just goes to show what you know about terrorist motivations.
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Just goes to show what you know about terrorist motivations.
what does their motivation have to do with this?
if they plan such an attack they most likely want it to suceed. if they only want to create some panic within the us-population they publish such a tape.
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

the idea isn't the attack itself.. that's really insignificant, it's more to raise awareness to their cause*











*i may be completely wrong but hey, whatever.
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

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what does their motivation have to do with this?
if they plan such an attack they most likely want it to suceed. if they only want to create some panic within the us-population they publish such a tape.
All the terrorists want to do is kill people, is that it? Cause the most terror for it's own sake?
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

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what does their motivation have to do with this?
if they plan such an attack they most likely want it to suceed. if they only want to create some panic within the us-population they publish such a tape.
Alternatively, if they say 'This is what we are going to do.' and then go ahead and succeed despite having told everyone in advance it has the added bonus of making the US look foolish.
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

Since such a huge attack like 9/11, Al Qaeda knows it can make threats (however realistic/unrealistic) in the knowledge that people will be intimidated because of the potential it has (see 9/11).

The only appropriate response as always is to remain vigilant and to continue with life as normal and that if there is an attack you aren't a physical victim of it should they attempt to carry one out. What we don't want is people and governments overreacting and restricting our freedoms more than necessary to combat terrorism.
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Unread 20 Oct 2003, 22:46   #13
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Alternatively, if they say 'This is what we are going to do.' and then go ahead and succeed despite having told everyone in advance it has the added bonus of making the US look foolish.
Except they haven't promised to do anything specific or indeed anything different from what they've been promising for the past ten years.
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are you just stupid or you can't understand that rich peoples are cry-baby and everytime ben laden makes a threatening new tapes the economy will slow down for a few days?
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Re: New al-Qaida video threatens U.S.

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All the terrorists want to do is kill people, is that it? Cause the most terror for it's own sake?
ofc they have goals they want to archive. noone just runs around and kills people at random. but obviously they use force to archive that goals, just like bush did in case of iraq. it even seems to me that force is the only thing the us-goverment still understands.

now, assume you would have a goal and would want to archive it using force, would you risk a failure and tell people about it before you actually attack?
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ofc they have goals they want to archive. noone just runs around and kills people at random. but obviously they use force to archive that goals, just like bush did in case of iraq. it even seems to me that force is the only thing the us-goverment still understands.

now, assume you would have a goal and would want to archive it using force, would you risk a failure and tell people about it before you actually attack?
Give an example of a terrorist goal. You sound like you still think a terrorists goal is to kill people/destroy buildings/infrastructure/whatever.
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Give an example of a terrorist goal. You sound like you still think a terrorists goal is to kill people/destroy buildings/infrastructure/whatever.
Get rid of american meddling in the middle east?
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Give an example of a terrorist goal. You sound like you still think a terrorists goal is to kill people/destroy buildings/infrastructure/whatever.
get the us out of saudi arabia / get the us out of iraq / make the us stop supporting israel.
such things, they have political goals, but use force to archive them, just the us has been doing in the last years.
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get the us out of saudi arabia / get the us out of iraq / make the us stop supporting israel.
And how will keeping quiet help in furthering these goals? You say they are more likely to succeed if they don't make such threats, how does your logic go exactly?
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And how will keeping quiet help in furthering these goals? You say they are more likely to succeed if they don't make such threats, how does your logic go exactly?
all i said was that it doesnt make much sence to me to tell your enemy about your attack before you launch that attack

i dont think we are in much disagreement on this topic in general
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all i said was that it doesnt make much sence to me to tell your enemy about your attack before you launch that attack

i dont think we are in much disagreement on this topic in general
But it does make alot of sense when you understand how a terrorist tries to acomplish his goal. The attack itself attracts attention, and molds people as a mass. How publicity around it is managed is as much part of the means as the attack itself. Sometimes an attack isn't even necesarry, and well designed publicity does all the work.
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i thought this was an old bumped thread.
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