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Unread 10 Jan 2004, 13:54   #1
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Eldest / Middle / Youngest / Only Child

A few years ago I remember reading some dumb newspaper supplement which features extracts from some guys book. I can't be bothered to google for the author or title, but his main point was thus :

The personality (or psychology) of most individuals is most profoundly influenced not by their class / race / nationality / etc, but by their relative position in their family. Most great leaders / scientists / etc are the eldest child in their families (or eldest son in prejudiced societies).

Now, I initially dismissed it as one of those "I'll take a reasonable idea and then try to use it to explain everything ever" fads (lol marxism) but almost every one of my friends (group of about eleven or so people) is either the eldest child or only child (except one). The one exception is quite a bit different, less forceful, less intelligent, etc. btw : I'm not suggesting my friends are great scientisits but most display very similar personality traits.

Anyway, onto the point : Where are you in your family? (in relation to brothers/sisters)

Are you the eldest child? Eldest son? Youngest? etc. I suspect we've got a disproportionate amount of only-children here, but nevermind.

(to start, I'm an only child)

edit : Before anyone asks, there's no real point to this thread, I just want to see if certain posters fit their alleged stereotype.
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Unread 10 Jan 2004, 13:59   #2
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Unread 10 Jan 2004, 14:00   #3
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Unread 10 Jan 2004, 14:07   #4
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Before anyone asks, there's no real point to this thread, I just want to see if certain posters fit their alleged stereotype.
Why not guess which position various posters are in? It could be fun.
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middle :/
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Why not guess which position various posters are in? It could be fun.
You've got to be an only child, surely?

I would have said Mark was either the eldest or an only child also. If he had an older brother he probably would have been beaten up a lot more, I suspect. Plus he's probably too big to be the runt of his family, unless his mother is some kind of uberfrauline.
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Youngest. Two sisters.
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Youngest. Two sisters.
The system fails! Still, I suppose it explains some things, eh?

Plus, I suppose you're relatively introverted compared to most of the "Look at me" brigade round here.
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I am the middle child, but the first daughter.
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i have 3 older and 1 younger sister.
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I have one older brother.

Youngest.
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Youngest, with two older brothers who were horrible to me.
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This thread is just a pretext to find out if any of us have younger sisters
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this is probably a bit pedantic, but i dont think the forum personality = real life personality.
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Oldest of two brothers. Though i doubt thats unexpected
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this is probably a bit pedantic, but i dont think the forum personality = real life personality.
Probably true, but it'd be difficult to act the way W acts (say) on these forums without being a little bit of an intelligent crazed loner in real-life.

I'd imagine most people are a lot more introverted than they are here (Nod being the classic example) - but it'd be hard to be smart here, and really dumb in real-life.
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Probably true, but it'd be difficult to act the way W acts (say) on these forums without being a little bit of an intelligent crazed loner in real-life.

I'd imagine most people are a lot more introverted than they are here (Nod being the classic example) - but it'd be hard to be smart here, and really dumb in real-life.
absolutley agree with you.

so the question (Where are you in your family) is just related to the intelligence of human-being?
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absolutley agree with you.

so the question (Where are you in your family) is just related to the intelligence of human-being?
Just because internet character MAY not reflect real life character, doesn't mean it DOES not reflect it. Duder.
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so the question (Where are you in your family) is just related to the intelligence of human-being?
Well, it was more general, but since I'm such an empty shell of a man emotionally speaking I tend to place a disproportionate emphasis on intelligence and rationality.
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youngest, one sister
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could be true, however i dont think so. on these board it is often about to be funny and to act clever and this often reachs a very childish level.

but ppl also post non childish things, which shows her matureness and old-age (that they are 20+ years old).

i think it is quite impossible to be those two ways in real life.

bottom line: as this is very speculative, your statement is right.
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Re: Eldest / Middle / Youngest / Only Child

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could be true, however i dont think so. on these board it is often about to be funny and to act clever and this often reachs a very childish level.

but ppl also post non childish things, which shows her matureness and old-age (that they are 20+ years old).

i think it is quite impossible to be those two ways in real life.

bottom line: as this is very speculative, your statement is right.
Trust me, Mark on here is pretty much EXACTLY the same as he is in real life.

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could be true, however i dont think so. on these board it is often about to be funny and to act clever and this often reachs a very childish level.

but ppl also post non childish things, which shows her matureness and old-age (that they are 20+ years old).

i think it is quite impossible to be those two ways in real life.
That sounds like a challenge to me
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Unread 10 Jan 2004, 14:46   #27
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hehe, i believe you.

we in germany say "Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel" which means something like:

"exemptions confirm the norm"
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The equivilent would be 'The exception that proves the rule', although that's more to do with the literal meaning of 'prove'.
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The equivilent would be 'The exception that proves the rule', although that's more to do with the literal meaning of 'prove'.
hehe, thats nice of you, thanks big sister

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well my older sister, acts the same way as you do when correcting ppl.
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well my older sister, acts the same way as you do when correcting ppl.
That wasn't a correction you imbecile, it was informing you of the equivilent phrase so you would know what it is; expanding your ability with english. There wasn't a 'lol u r wrong' implied anywhere.
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That wasn't a correction you imbecile, it was informing you of the equivilent phrase so you would know what it is; expanding your ability with english. There wasn't a 'lol u r wrong' implied anywhere.
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Re: Eldest / Middle / Youngest / Only Child

Youngest, I have an older brother.
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Middle child.


I've certainly noticed a wide variation in behavior between firstborns and non-firstborns in my own and others' children. Several other parents have mentioned the same thing. Most of the observations have tended to be slightly negative, however; at least so far (I have no personal experience with adult children nor do any of my close friends). For example, the firstborns tend to be less reliant then their younger siblings. The firstborn will get hungry and ask about dinner whereas the younger brother/sister will just go fix themselves a sandwich.

It will be interesting to see if/how this extends into adulthood.
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this is probably a bit pedantic, but i dont think the forum personality = real life personality.
No shit, Sherlock.

I'm a lot nicer in real life, and my arrogence is absent, presumed "missing". Maybe that's because irl I'm surrounded by my own kind, and here I'm surrounded by idiots. Just a thought.
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if i would get the point of your (Jennifer) post, you might inspire me.
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middle child, two brothers.
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and here I'm surrounded by idiots. Just a thought.
Why are you here then?

There are some people here who are a bit tiresome, I'll agree. But if there weren't intelligent people to speak to / discuss things with, I wouldn't bother. And yes, there are a few.
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Oldest child in the family. First grand-son to both my mothers and fathers parents.

I have one little brother, so I can confirm that younger sibblings are often more stupid and also bigger bastards than the older ones.
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youngest of four, 2 older brothers 1 older sister, all of whom have children of their own, so i am also an uncle 9 times.
must admit though, being surrounded by children constantly as i was growing up has totally put me off having children of my own.
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here I'm surrounded by idiots.
but generally you cant say, just because of what he writes in forums on the i-net, that he is stupid, dumb or an idiot. claiming this, is in my eyes much more dumber..
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Re: Eldest / Middle / Youngest / Only Child

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but generally you cant say, just because of what he writes in forums on the i-net, that he is stupid, dumb or an idiot. claiming this, is in my eyes much more dumber..
You can't say for certain, but it is possible to make an educated guess.
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Re: Eldest / Middle / Youngest / Only Child

indeed, but this completley depends of your definition "from which someone is educated".

i dont think that i look here educated, probaby because of my fine english, probably because i am not [b]that[/that] educated (i know that i am at least a bit educated).

and it also depends if you show your education or not.
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