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Unread 15 Dec 2009, 17:54   #1
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Stop making me meet new people

I've played PA for a long time. Even when I haven't actually been playing Planetarion, I've stuck around on IRC and talked to people about Planetarion. I like doing these things, but at some point I hit a cognitive limit for the number of people I need to keep filed away under 'Planetarion' in my brain.

I don't want to be forced to meet new people through game mechanics. I have no problem meeting new and interesting people via IRC. In fact, I'm pretty much forced to meet new people every round, since Ascendancy hasn't succeeded at stagnating and dying yet.

I've basically settled for 30 or so people I regularly talk to about Planetarion. This group is mostly stable, but every now and then people disappear from IRC and new, interesting people show up. But that's about my limit. I can't really spend more time grooming relationships to people on IRC.

If you ever want me to play again, I have to be able to go into the game without absolutely having to interact with random people for game mechanic reasons. I'll accept interactions due to the metagame, because these require less investment than being in gal with someone.

Some people seem to be under the impression that Ascendancy plays with core galaxies because it's a winning strategy. I'd gladly do it even if it put me at a disadvantage. If all my PA playing IRC-friends disappeared tomorrow I'd reconsider, but until then, please let me choose to play with my friends
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Unread 15 Dec 2009, 18:18   #2
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

We've had BPs for a long time now. Bring back private galaxies!

Perhaps limit amount of people in a private galaxy to X, while BP-based galaxies gets X+Y, where X and Y are sane numbers.

Also see Rob's earlier suggestion, which could be an alternative aswell (ta JBG.)

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... and ban anyone in a private galaxy from joining an alliance tag.
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Unread 15 Dec 2009, 18:33   #3
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

If you did ban people in private gals from joining a tag, would you hardcode no out of gal def? or no out of cluster def? Multihunters really aren't willing/capable of policing the rules, so something would have to be hardcoded if you truly wanted a rule that private galaxy members couldn't help alliances.

I do like the idea of private galaxies though.
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Unread 15 Dec 2009, 18:39   #4
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

IMO I would not ban out of gal def (whether cluster or not). Ban tag joining only.

I do however see that private galaxies could benefit vastly from out of gal tag from active alliances. Same with cluster "luck"... Not sure if it should be banned or legal - but if banned, definately hard coded.
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

So alliances can have large support planets in a fortress galaxy, they just don't contribute to score? I don't object, as long as the rule is that support planets are allowed. Expecting multihunters to police support planets is ridiculous as it is, and I don't care to give another advantage to those who ignore the rules.
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

Private galaxies, exile on the last day and join tag = win?
Support planets are bad. Enforce the policy or - even better - hardcode it out of the game.
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

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Private galaxies, exile on the last day and join tag = win?
Easily prevented by:
1) Disabling exiling, or
2) Using a similar system as is in use with tags and galaxies: score gained in tag T/galaxy G does not count toward the score of tag S/Galaxy H, or
3) Making "private galaxy" a permanent flag for planets, that doesn't expire even after they exile out.

Is this is the best objection you can think of?
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Unread 16 Dec 2009, 13:03   #8
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

I'd love to play under Rob's suggestion, but I fear that in the long term it would segregate the game into 'old people' and 'new people'. There are basically two social institutions for meeting people in PA, galaxies and alliances. New people flow through alliances organically, which I like. I have to deal with a lot of new people through my alliance (because we recruit quite a lot). These are generally (not always!) the people I'd like to play with the most (ie in the galaxy).

Hey, give us a cluster of our own and I'd be happy!
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

I whole-heartedly agree.
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

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2) Using a similar system as is in use with tags and galaxies: score gained in tag T/galaxy G does not count toward the score of tag S/Galaxy H
If Rob's suggestion was ever used, this is the best option I think, thought not sure you've explained it particularly well! I'm drunk though so **** trying to explain it better!
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Re: Stop making me meet new people

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Support planets are bad. Enforce the policy or - even better - hardcode it out of the game.
For the love of god, stop whining about support planets. They´re hardly used (at least noone could show me anything being even remotely close to evidence of support planet usage) nowadays. The last big discussion we had was the attempt to apply the support planet rule on out of tag cooperation of two alliances.
Read Barackes post (cba searching for it right now) for some clue why all this "hardcore limit the options of interaction between planets" is pretty idiotic. You should not limit the ways people can actually play this game. Get a clue - if you code out options for people to play on a casual level and still play a bit with their friends, they won´t signup an account at all.
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