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Unread 11 Jul 2005, 13:13   #1
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Best PC games ever?

I was just wondering what you thought were the best PC games by genre. Here's some of my thoughts:

RPG:
Fallout 2. The fact that there are a number of ways to complete every quest and that you can act good or bad or somewhere in between makes this a great game. The SPECIAL system of character creation is genius and the fact that your actions affect the end-game is great too, imo no RPG has come close to topping it. Fallout was good too but Fallout 2 is superior.

Strategy:
Rise of Nations. The huge scope, highly detailed tech advancement and the fact that the resources do not deplete over time make for a great game. I played this game pretty much non-stop for a year and while I'm bored of it now I still acknowledge that it's a great game. I'm really looking forward to see what they do with the sequel.

FPS:
Half Life. I haven't played many FPSes since Half Life but none even come close to conveying the atmosphere and story as well as this game does. Half Life 2 was a notable dissapointment.

There are many other genres but I can't be arsed thinking of contenders for them The 3 genres above are the ones I play most anyway.

Also, X-Com is worthy of a mention, a great game. The sequels and remake didn't quite capture the magic of the first. I wouldn't know what genre to classify it as though.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

X-Com is turned based strategy, the first two were pretty good, I can't really see how you can separate them since they were essentially the same game.

For me anyway there's too many games I've enjoyed to pick a favourite in any genre really.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

rpg : na

strategy: alpha centauri

fps: quake, probably
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Re: Best PC games ever?

Terror from the Deep was complete shit, Enemy Unknown was a masterpiece, that's how I can separate them
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Re: Best PC games ever?

RPG: Diablo. This game has the flow.

Strategy: Jagged Alliance 2. best RBSG ever. superb scenario, lovely mercaneries, lots of long-time fun (additionally many mods outhere )

FPS: No One Lives Forever. nice story, terrific scenario, hot protagonist, lots of comedy events.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

FPS: Half Life 2. it is probably the only FPS I actually enjoy playing several times
Graphic Adventure: a kick up between Secret of Monkey Island and Grim Fandango.
Strategy: Alpha Centauri.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

It terms of the number of hours i've spent playing a game over the years the Championship Manager series wins by a long long way. Probably CM 2, 3 or 02/03 was my favourite, i forget which is which but i didnt like CM4.
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It terms of the number of hours i've spent playing a game over the years the Championship Manager series wins by a long long way. Probably CM 2, 3 or 02/03 was my favourite, i forget which is which but i didnt like CM4.
CM is awsome but does seem to be going ott in detail. there should be a setting where you pick the level of complication so 'casual' players and total obsessives can pick their preferred level of detail.

RPG: Broken Sword 2. Solid. First RPG I've ever completed. Not really played too many but I really enjoyed this

Strategy: Command And Conquer. What else? All are great (with the exception of tiberian sun) but I think Red Alert is the best. If ou are looking for a challenge I would recommend the original with the extra missions disk as most of those are insanely difficult.

FPS: AvP. Great game Some levels are very jumpy, especially the levels with face huggers. three different ways to play (Alien, Predator, Marine) and each character has it's strenths and weaknesses but the Predator is clearly the best character.
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Strategy: Civ 2 gold
RPG: Baldur's Gate 2 / Ultima Underworld
Adventure: Monkey Island 1, 2, 3
FPS: Quake 2 (I stopped playing first shooters after that though)
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oh the Commandos games were brilliant, I don't know what genre you would really put those in though.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

Strategy: Red Alert or Red Alert 2, both are classics.
Sport: The CM/FM series
RPG: Diablo 2, out of my limited experience.

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Re: Best PC games ever?

50. Ascendancy
Baldur's Gate
Quake
Worms Series. Armageddon, probably.
No-one Lives Forever
Max Payne
Battlezone
Ground Control
Knights of the Old Republic
Unreal Tournament
Tribes
Thief
Quake III
The Monkey Island Series
Homeworld
Fallout
Earth 2150
TIE Fighter
Morrowind
Football Manager 2005
Rome: Total War
Thief III
Max Payne II
Day of the Tentacle
Space Empires IV Gold
Starcraft
Alien vs Predator
World of Warcraft
Sam and Max
Knights of the Old Republic II
No-one Lives Forever II
Medieval: Total War
Master of Orion II
Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines
Unreal Tournament 2004
Fallout II
Warcraft III
Deus Ex
Civ II
Planescape: Torment
Grim Fandango
Rise of Nations
System Shock 2
Baldur's Gate II
Total Annihilation
Half Life
Freespace II
Alpha Centauri
Thief II
1. Half Life II

Best 50 PC games ever. In order.
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what, no Diablo?
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mrl is mostly correct, but not entirely.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

Atm i'm playing Football Manager religously lol.
My fave FPS is probally Unreal Tournament.
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Donkey Kong Country
Mario 3
Mario World
Mario 64
Eternal Darkness
Disgaea
Rock N Roll Racing
Snake Rattle N Roll
Super Mario Kart
Mario Kart: Double Dash
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Timesplitters II
Super Street Fighter II
Mortal Kombat II
Chrono Trigger
Zelda III Link to the Past
Zelda : Ocarina of Time
Zelda : Majora's Mask
Zelda : Wind Waker
Super Smash Brothers
Super Smash Brothers : Melee
Secret of Mana
Zelda: Link's Awakening
Little Nemo : The Dream Master
Super Probotector (or Contra 3 if you actually want to use its proper title)
Sonic
Sonic II
Sonic CD
Super Mario Brothers

Off topic, but that's all the console games I can think of at the moment. Also: Elite and Chuckie Egg.
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whats that ? no-one mentioned console games ? mrl going off topic you say ? never!
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Zelda : Wind Waker
Zelda: Link's Awakening
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You forgot the Legend Of Zelda, the original and the best.
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im with JC, championship manager 3 is without doubt the game ive wasted most of my life on
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No I didn't.
You don't like the original Zelda?
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your console list is heavily incomplete. why dont you consider any ps1/ps2 games (except TS II)?
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while we're going off topic

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your console list is heavily incomplete. why dont you consider any ps1/ps2 games (except TS II)?
And Disgaea.

I didn't think of any other ones that were good enough.
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I was going to say "First person to mention a console game loses" in my first post but I was hoping against hope that nobody would mention a console game. Oh how vain that hope was!

I didn't think of saying don't mention movies though
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Micro Machines 2, Bomberman, the original F1 for the PS and Wipeout 2097 wasted so much of my time.

Also Rock N' Roll Racing
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Monkey Island 1 will probably be my #1. It's old and got sucky graphics, but god damn it were cool when it first came + I still like it. The original Indiana Jones and Prince of Persia is also good.
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And Disgaea.

I didn't think of any other ones that were good enough.
you have super street fighter 2 and mortal kombat 2 representing the whole genre of beatemups...

Super street fighter 2 turbo is clearly the best of those, and certainly the "classic" that most people will think of.

mortal kombat 2, while it can be a lot of fun, is simply NOT a very good game. In fact the whole MK series is a bit of a joke.

now, tekken 3, THERE is a true classic.
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MK was excellent, but it went downhill after the second one
Tekken is quality, but ive so far only played the first two (i got a gamecube for xmas, no a PS2 ).
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now, tekken 3, THERE is a true classic.
agreed, the tekken series are the best beat-em-ups. I'm playing tekken 5 atm which has 1,2 and 3 as bonus games
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quake/quake2/actionquake2/q3a
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Re: Best PC games ever?

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Zelda: Link's Awakening
that was great game. took forever to beat

i thought metroid 2 on the gameboy was excellent as well, I must have beaten that like 8 times all the way through.

i'm sure this makes me 'official thread loser' but i thought ffvii was neato. and i thought i'd rather be flayed alive than forced to play another minute of ffviii.
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MK II on the Mega Drive is simply the best hangover game to exist, bar none. This coming from a SNES fanboy.

Oh yeah and Soul Calibur is better than Tekken.
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Janes F/A-18
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EF2000
F22 (the DID one, not the Novalogic one)
Rainbow Six
Delta Force - Black Hawk Down
SWAT 4

Erm, pretty much anything else that holds its own in that genre.
i wonder which route your midlife crisis is going to take ...
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agreed, the tekken series are the best beat-em-ups. I'm playing tekken 5 atm which has 1,2 and 3 as bonus games
I got it a few days ago, it really is very good.

im something of a beat em up game fanatic though, ive been practicing difficult combos for around 4 days straight
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Oh yeah and Soul Calibur is better than Tekken.
Soul calibur is for girls, its been proven with tests.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

RPG; Diablo , KOTOR, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.
Strategy; Hearts of Iron, Master Of Orion, Ascendancy, Alpha Centauri
FPS; Quake.
Other: Tekken III

I'm fairly old school and find less and less new games which I actually enjoy. Most the games I've played on consoles I've found to be extremely overrated.
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Civilization II, Colonization, Alpha Centauri, Zelda: Link's Awakening, Starsiege Tribes, C&C: Red Alert, Diablo, Commander Keen, Earthworm Jim, James Bond: Goldeneye.


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Only a maximum of half of the Tekken games are any good though; that's 3, Tag and (maybe) 5.
1, 2 and 4 are all abysmal. 1 and 2 especially, which play at 3 frames per second.
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Only a maximum of half of the Tekken games are any good though; that's 3, Tag and (maybe) 5.
1, 2 and 4 are all abysmal. 1 and 2 especially, which play at 3 frames per second.
i think 1 and 2 can probably be excused, considering T1 came out over 10 years ago now and t2 followed closely. There really werent any decent 3d beat em ups until T3 and vf(whichever one was the first good one i dont play vf).

Whereas i believe all the SC games came out after T3, including soul edge.

Although yes, T4 was awful, but we pretend that didnt happen.
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Re: Best PC games ever?

Civ 2, Master of orion 2, Quake, UFO, Homeworld, Tie fighter, Morrowind, Deus Ex, Space empires series, *******rior 2 Mercs, Alpha centauri, Fallout 2, Freespace, Planescape torment, Total Annihilation, Prince of Persia and Flashback

Is Diablo an RPG now? hack n slash point and click maybe....


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