eXilition

[Rikard]

I just read about the post where people dragged back the exilition closings and because i'm hardly playing anymore i felt this would eb a good time to vent my feelings.

I am writing this at 3:44 on the night from monday 11-4 to tuesday 12-4, eXilition has had closings. cata and BiGBaD are closed for appearent accountsharing. Facts in this matter are that BiGBaD and cata live in the same city. Because of that they have asked for an exception in case they once visit eachother. However they have yet to visit eachother this round. This does not stop Phil^ from closing both planets for breaking an exception which has never been used. They are closed because they defended eachother once (!) during the entire round. (its now PT 293). What intruiges me is that [HR]Chaos seems to know that eX guys are closed and he's not the only one. How would they know that 10 minutes after BiGBaD found out himself? Are the Hunters not unbiased? I seriously doubt the credibility of Phil^. He seems awfully glad with the closings and he told us that "more will follow". What kind of remark is that? cata did have the same exception in 1up last round where he also "violated" it once or twice but he never got closed there. Does the alliance i'm in really have such a bad reputation??? Or are people jealous of our averige score which is 20% then our closest rival??? Kaifux is talking with Phil^ at the moment and i hope he can talk some sence into Phil^. I doubt it.

I heard [HR]Chaos (yes him again) say that eX is Dragons/LDK (i'm neither) and that Dragons HC cheated last ******** round. This is a fact. Jurgen MrJ and Berten got closed. However none of them are HC or even members of eXilition, and they used bots, whereas our members got closed for allegiate sharing. This argument obviously doesnt work then.

Because of the radiosilence around eX i am not allowed to post this right away. I hope you have not all forgotten about this incident when i post this. eXilition is innocent. If theres 1 reason why cata and BiGBaD got closed its not for sharing but for stupidity, and even that i seriously doubt.

Out Rikard - Deathhead / nineone / eXiliton

PS.
[03:52] <Tis> those who are still open must be pissed as hell at the others
Tis we're not pissed. They didnt cheat.

PPS.
its very hard to no lash out at all the nubs trying to act like they know everything about the closings. I'm a very vocal guy normally and not being able to rectify the obvious flaws in HR and 1ups arguments is hard.

PPPS.
[10:55] <ricka> i also was closed 0_0
[10:55] <ricka> but for funny reason
[10:55] <ricka>
[10:55] <Rkz|AFk> which was? :/
[10:56] <ricka> changing password
[10:56] <ricka>
[10:56] <ricka> no logins from other pcs ect
[10:56] <Rkz|AFk>
[10:56] <Rkz|AFk> lol
[10:56] <ricka> but changed password = sharing
[10:56] <ricka>

Afterword: None of us were closed. we had 4 cases, 3 exception cases (none of which had really used the exception) and 1 case which was described in the post above. I found out the morning after that Ricka was called because his fleet was needed for defence. One guess who he was suppost to defend... (i lost 42% roids) Kal is defending us at the board. The only one. Happens to be that Kal is also the only one who has any real info on the case...

I beg of you not to flame this thread.

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by big_horn

i never once saw ricka's fleet being launched without him being active on IRC.
of-course you could argue through VNC someone else was talking but i doubt that very much...

What irc network are we talking about here?

[Treveler]

Tell me who your friend are and I`ll tell you who you are. Pld Angels...

[Alki]

exsqueeze me?

[Treveler]

I heard [HR]Chaos (yes him again) say that eX is Dragons/LDK (i'm neither) and that Dragons HC cheated last ******** round. This is a fact. Jurgen MrJ and Berten got closed. However none of them are HC or even members of eXilition, and they used bots, whereas our members got closed for allegiate sharing. This argument obviously doesnt work then.

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

[Banned]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

I love your excellent use of logic.

[Snurx]

Personally, I'm a big fan of the principle that everybody is not guilty untill it's been proved that they are not.
There might be tons of half-truths, rumors with something to them, and open-ports that could lead into a conclusion that eX is cheating. However, I've yet to see some hard proof, and I won't judge them before I see that.

And, if they cheat, what is the fuss? Alliance rankings don't count for shit, it's the communitys feeling that counts. If they cheat, they get no respect for winning or attaing a high rank.

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by Snurx

And, if they cheat, what is the fuss? Alliance rankings don't count for shit, it's the communitys feeling that counts. If they cheat, they get no respect for winning or attaing a high rank.

Not true.

People will go away, but the win is there forever.

Doesn't matter though because no one is cheating

[Fyodor]

Originally Posted by Amycus

Not true.

People will go away, but the win is there forever.

Who won PAX?

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by Fyodor

Who won PAX?

If by PAX you mean round10 planetarion then Elysium won.

[Jumo]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

Actually, neither of them have played PA for EXil. Or even PA afaik.

[Fyodor]

Originally Posted by Amycus

If by PAX you mean round10 planetarion then Elysium won.

Here it is 4 round later and I think Ecl won. But thats neither here or there. I think you guys have played a great round thus far and if you pull off the win, I dont think there should be any kind of asterik next to the W. Cheating or not this has been the best all out round since PAX.

[Rikard]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

i have never seen either MrJ or Jurgen in any eX channel. In fact i havent seen either of them on irc since i quit playing pia. I would never ever join any alliance that has either one of them as member, i couldnt possibly do that after all i have said about them.

[mens]

Originally Posted by Amycus

If by PAX you mean round10 planetarion then Elysium won.

yea they cheated.
recall bug wasn't it?(hit back on ur browser and ur fleet is back home)

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by mens

yea they cheated.
recall bug wasn't it?(hit back on ur browser and ur fleet is back home)

Yeah there was a recall bug and a bug that had something to do with gal fund and stuff.

The main bitch was they recruited to the top not cheated though (correction there was alot of cheating gripe but the main deal at the end was their recruitment)

Funny though how cheating does come up considering the current politics. Alot of people that i've seen gripe about cheating this round were on the recieving end of it back then. Wierd how that works. (cough FOREST r10 FanG member)

[mens]

gal fund thingy was r10.5
actually i think we are thinking of r10.5 in both cases.

anyways who cares

[Desse]

Originally Posted by Fyodor

Who won PAX?

My gal

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Amycus

Alot of people that i've seen gripe about cheating this round were on the recieving end of it back then. Wierd how that works. (cough FOREST r10 FanG member)

Huh?

[Fyodor]

Originally Posted by Amycus

(cough FOREST r10 FanG member)

I m pretty sure Forest flew with us 10.5. And tbh, you shouldnt be accusing him of anything. Imo, the time forest was with us, he was entirely honorable. Honorable to the point that he scanned alliance mates looking for anything fishy. Calling him a hypocrite just doesnt fly.

[Amycus]

I'm not calling him a hypocrite I am saying however that he is a big part of this whole eXilition crusifiction thing having been in a situation in the past where his alliance wasn't the purest.

You actually help my point more. Not all of FanG were cheaters back then and who really knows what the situation was. Same thing with eX this round.

r10 FanG cheating isn't a big deal now though is it?

It's 5:30am here and I am tired so sorry if this post is a little hard to understand.

[Forest]

I was eclipse r10, and fang r10.5.

And at no point have i ever said that ALL of exil are cheating, as quite simply, i dont believe that.

What i do know, is its a core of players, that of course wouldnt let any of the outer players know about what they are doing.

[Morden]

lol, its funny to see someone try and call forest a hypocrite as far as cheating goes.

he's probably one of the people in this game who hate cheating the most, it has cost him a lot in the past and if you knew anything about him, you would know how he hates anyone cheating, but he hates alliances m8s cheating even more than he does anyone else.

People have such a small grasp on the history of this game at times.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Amycus

Yeah there was a recall bug and a bug that had something to do with gal fund and stuff.

The main bitch was they recruited to the top not cheated though (correction there was alot of cheating gripe but the main deal at the end was their recruitment)

Funny though how cheating does come up considering the current politics. Alot of people that i've seen gripe about cheating this round were on the recieving end of it back then. Wierd how that works. (cough FOREST r10 FanG member)

Forest was FAnG in r10.5, not r10 ... Get your facts straight thx

[jerome]

Yes shame on Forest for being part of an alliance that may have consisted a few cheaters when he also was the one scanning his own alliance to check for cheaters to report them

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by Morden

lol, its funny to see someone try and call forest a hypocrite as far as cheating goes.

um?

Originally Posted by Amycus

I'm not calling him a hypocrite

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Forest was FAnG in r10.5, not r10 ... Get your facts straight thx

It doesn't matter honestly. The point isn't based on when he was involved, and If you want to be technical ely, ecl, and FanG all got accused of cheating

However you people will use anything you can to troll.

My point was about how the bandwagon witch hunt wants to call everyone in eX cheaters because some people that i've never seen since I joined eX cheated in the past, and or people once associated with a cheating alliance are in eX making them cheaters.

Another point I was making is that Forest was in an alliance in the past put under the same scrutiny we are being put under this round so I find it ironic he is so easy to throw the term cheater around blindly knowing from experience what it is like being on this side.

For anything I posted to be trolled or taken as insults at Forest's character just shows that people will do anything troll.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Amycus

Another point I was making is that Forest was in an alliance in the past put under the same scrutiny we are being put under this round so I find it ironic he is so easy to throw the term cheater around blindly knowing from experience what it is like being on this side.

The difference being, when people said it about my alliance, I said 'yes, we have cheats, lets catch and report all of em', whereas when they say it about your alliance you say 'I have never seen cheating, it doesnt happen ehre'

And EVERYONE knows you ahve a core that does.

I once again refer to my quote from two exil core members 'We arent cheating unless we get caught'.

Lamer.

[Gate]

Originally Posted by Amycus

um?
My point was about how the bandwagon witch hunt wants to call everyone in eX cheaters because some people that i've never seen since I joined eX cheated in the past, and or people once associated with a cheating alliance are in eX making them cheaters.

If I'm interpreting this right, it means you haven't seen these members this round. I would assume you're active on eX's private IRC chans etc, so it's kinda surprising you wouldn't meet some members who seem to be online 24/7.

This probably counts as a troll, but pointless pedantry amuses me :/

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by Forest

The difference being, when people said it about my alliance, I said 'yes, we have cheats, lets catch and report all of em', whereas when they say it about your alliance you say 'I have never seen cheating, it doesnt happen ehre'

Actually I said I haven't seen cheating but it is more than likely going on and if I see it i'll report it but I don't think that eX has any more cheating than anyone else

While you all are so busy crucifying eXilition the cheaters in your own alliances are laughing their asses off.

Originally Posted by Forest

And EVERYONE knows you ahve a core that does.

The only thing everyone knows is what is spread around by trolls. Who cares in a few rounds it will be forgotten and never discussed unless brought up like this instance. Why? Because once the round is over and done and the new round begins and the new top alliances show up there will be a new croud to call cheaters.

Originally Posted by Forest

I once again refer to my quote from two exil core members 'We arent cheating unless we get caught'.

Your quote has no legitimacy at all so sorry that evidence isn't accepted as anything but a ploy to stir shit up. If you'd like to tell me who would be dumb enough to tell you that I would love to rid the game of more cheaters. I accept pm's

Originally Posted by Forest

Lamer.

See here I am giving you the credit you desirve as a non-cheater surrounded by cheaters, and this is your response? Doesn't seem like the response of someone with any real integrity. Typical e-personality.

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by Gate

If I'm interpreting this right, it means you haven't seen these members this round. I would assume you're active on eX's private IRC chans etc, so it's kinda surprising you wouldn't meet some members who seem to be online 24/7.

This probably counts as a troll, but pointless pedantry amuses me :/

I don't consider it a troll it is a legit response and you managed it without using the typical, moron, lamer, idiot, blah blah blah

To answer your question, there isn't anyone in eX on 24/7. I've been online since yesterday but that is a long story. However there is someone incharge on at all times. Once incs start getting reported if they aren't getting covered everyone in the alliance is called.

Also it seems you guys think that we cover every attack out there. I would say that just as many incs go uncovered as covered.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Forest

The difference being, when people said it about my alliance, I said 'yes, we have cheats, lets catch and report all of em', whereas when they say it about your alliance you say 'I have never seen cheating, it doesnt happen ehre'

And EVERYONE knows you ahve a core that does.

I once again refer to my quote from two exil core members 'We arent cheating unless we get caught'.

Lamer.

You've been in FAnG, you're a cheater Forest. Nothing more nothing less ... just deal with it !!!

[MAdnRisKy]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

You've been in FAnG, you're a cheater Forest. Nothing more nothing less ... just deal with it !!!

so the IF - THEN statement here is that

IF you have been in Fa(n)g

THEN you have cheated

?

[LEFF|pm]

nice to see that nothing has changed

Phil^ is still a a biased hypocrite, everyone is still "cheating" since there are still no generally accepted rules and guidelines about what is allowed and what is not, Saint Forest is reporting players and not getting closed as a top100 planet is like playing in a lottery

ftw !

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by MAdnRisKy

so the IF - THEN statement here is that

IF you have been in Fa(n)g

THEN you have cheated

?

Kjeldoran in PR backfiring non-shocker. This is getting funny.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by G.K Zhukov

Kjeldoran in PR backfiring non-shocker. This is getting funny.

I'm questioning your intelectual capacities as I thought it was clearly a sarcastic remark towards all the hypocrits yelling "once LDK, always a cheater" or "once Dragons, always a cheater" or the example I used in my post.

Clearly some failed to see that sarcasm ...

[MaxMilliaN]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

you make no sense, you call Ex cheaters because 2 other ppl who never were Ex members (jurgen/mrj) cheated in another game with an other alliance...

please tell me what drugs you are using

[demiGOD]

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

[Entium]

Originally Posted by demiGOD

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

There are more members... the whole alliance is just using these two accounts...

[Amycus]

Originally Posted by demiGOD

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

Well from the results that we get from posting, (like me getting neg-repped on my post stating the top 3 alliance names and top 3 allaince logos because they ran out of posts to neg-rep me on,) why would they get on here and open themselves up to be trolled and insulted by people that can't do anything else?

[~RevictioN~]

I brought up the exil closures in another thread dont know if your talking about it if so why not respond in that thread as you only "justified"( I use the word justify very loosely ) 1 statement I made. Also if there was 4 cases earlier in rnd if I remember 9 planets got closed that means 1 of the cases 3 planets were invovled also Cata/Bigbad arnt in EX anymore if im correct.

Also EX answer me why pa team felt the need to add people to the multihunter team ? And why they felt the need to put a paragraph about cheating on the overview screen ?

Yes none of this is hard proof and im afraid we will prolly never see any. As in the past you guys have proven to beh the innovators of cheating so im not gonna by the we dont cheat crap you do cheat and are very good at it as you even outwitted pateam this rnd.

[qebab]

Originally Posted by ~RevictioN~

As in the past you guys have proven to beh the innovators of cheating so im not gonna by the we dont cheat crap you do cheat and are very good at it as you even outwitted pateam this rnd.

I'm sorry, but I do believe that 'the innovators of cheating', are they guys that have never been suspect, much less got caught cheating. I don't doubt a second that they exist.

[Fyodor]

Originally Posted by ~RevictioN~

Also EX answer me why pa team felt the need to add people to the multihunter team ? And why they felt the need to put a paragraph about cheating on the overview screen ?

Shouldnt you be asking the PA team this rather then exi?

[Rikard]

Originally Posted by ~RevictioN~

I brought up the exil closures in another thread dont know if your talking about it if so why not respond in that thread as you only "justified"( I use the word justify very loosely ) 1 statement I made. Also if there was 4 cases earlier in rnd if I remember 9 planets got closed that means 1 of the cases 3 planets were invovled also Cata/Bigbad arnt in EX anymore if im correct.

Also EX answer me why pa team felt the need to add people to the multihunter team ? And why they felt the need to put a paragraph about cheating on the overview screen ?

Yes none of this is hard proof and im afraid we will prolly never see any. As in the past you guys have proven to beh the innovators of cheating so im not gonna by the we dont cheat crap you do cheat and are very good at it as you even outwitted pateam this rnd.

I have some trouble reading and understanding your post so excuse me if i misread some of it but the reason why i made a new thread is because i could only see one thread about the alleged eX cheating and that thread was closed.

Yes there were 4 cases, 3 exception cases, none of the exceptions were used, and 1 password change case (no joke!). 7 were closed, none were deleted. cata and BigBAD shipjumped to Wolfpack indeed.

why does the MH team need more people? Ask them not us. The fact that the ammount og hunters is increased and our alliance isnt any smaller then we were at start should proof our innocence should it not?

We are the innovators of cheating? Tell me . Why would we cheat when we have an average of 50 people on our priv chan, averige of 30 ppl per hour talking. Why does do crusie and mano complain about their rising phonebills when all they can do is just cheat? If you have no clue whats going on without our alliance why jump to judge us?

[Rikard]

Originally Posted by demiGOD

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

I am hurt

[qebab]

Originally Posted by big_horn

exi are just sinking lower..... and lower......
no matter what you use VNC for, the authorities aren't going to let you off abusing illegal substances........

I do hope that was a joke. If not, I beg you to reread Maxine's post, as clearly you misread it.

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

I understand them very well, the people who decide not to put their feet on this forum. You have seen in that other thread how the eXi who chose to post were recieved. Besides, there is nothing they can say to convince the people attacking them here, that they are not cheating.

[Guran]

Originally Posted by demiGOD

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

It's a common known fact that AD is full of trolls, idiots or just clueless people who feel the urge to participate in discussions they know nothing of. I'm surprised even this many EX members have commented in these cheat discussions, and yes, there are many more than just those two and no, they are not representing EX PR. If you think someone feels obligated to answer these cheat accusations you are very wrong.

[Guran]

Originally Posted by ~RevictioN~

I brought up the exil closures in another thread dont know if your talking about it if so why not respond in that thread as you only "justified"( I use the word justify very loosely ) 1 statement I made. Also if there was 4 cases earlier in rnd if I remember 9 planets got closed that means 1 of the cases 3 planets were invovled also Cata/Bigbad arnt in EX anymore if im correct.

Also EX answer me why pa team felt the need to add people to the multihunter team ? And why they felt the need to put a paragraph about cheating on the overview screen ?

Yes none of this is hard proof and im afraid we will prolly never see any. As in the past you guys have proven to beh the innovators of cheating so im not gonna by the we dont cheat crap you do cheat and are very good at it as you even outwitted pateam this rnd.

Here's a penny. Go buy a clue.

[G.K Zhukov]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

I'm questioning your intelectual capacities as I thought it was clearly a sarcastic remark towards all the hypocrits yelling "once LDK, always a cheater" or "once Dragons, always a cheater" or the example I used in my post.

Clearly some failed to see that sarcasm ...

You of all people should never questioning the capacity of others, Kj. Seriously man.
Your "sarcasm" (as I kinda doubt your capacity to really use such a "clever" thing) backfired, and MAd's post was funny.
Now don't let me start summing up FAnG's history when it comes to cheating, eh?

[Buddah]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

EX would totally exist without jurgen and mrj. take ctx for an example from PL none of them were involved there. The backbone of EX is mac, kaifux and basse. jurgen is retired and dragons, i doubt he would ever play for an alliance not called dragons, mrj is a random dragons cheater.

Originally Posted by demiGOD

I demand more EXil posters on forums aside from Amycus and MaxMillian. Are you the only EXil members that PR the alliance? There has to be more of you.

i posted some in the other thread
but i cba reading and posting 24/7 like most of the whining/flaming side(read 1up and co)


About the possible cheating in ex. it might be a cheating core, but i seriously doubt its on hc level, and its not among the core of players, i consider myself in the core and i never was asked about vnc or shit, neither is any of my mates in ex, but then again if it is a cheating core, they do it without the knowledge of us other members. so go be eaten by the wolves rather than come saying than ex is a cheating alliance. i cba writing any more as im off to play beach volley.

[qebab]

Originally Posted by big_horn

how could you possibly think that me accusing exi of drug abuse is anything but a joke ?
fair enough it's quite hard to understand when people are joking over the internet...... but really ?

Its hard to know when its something regarding Maxine.

[Sun_Tzu]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Yes none of them is Hc this round of pa. None the less they are the backbone of the Exil alliance. both played and got caught useing bot. Exil would not exist witout Jurgen and MrJ.

Exil are truly the winners in that light right?

Behave yourself!

MrJ has afaik had nothing to do with any online game since he was cought using a bot in ********.

Jurgen is currently playing ********, clearly if he had anything to do with ex he'd be taking the time to play PaX aswell? I mean, he rank2 or so(clean I might add) in ********, so surely he's got the time? But he isn't playing PaX. And he has no ties to Exilition.

Exilition would not exist without jurgen, that much is true. Had jurgen never created dragons then MacT and Basse would never have HC'd together there and wouldn't have worked as closely with ricka/kaifux and thus we'd most likely have no Exilition. However, neither Jurgen nor MrJ have been involved in the founding or running of Exilition.

Really people, atleast get a clue before flaming :/