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20 Nov 2003, 17:05
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Lord of the Boards
Join Date: Dec 2001
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FAnG situation
... After causing that stir last night I would like to issue a short statement on what happend and will happen the next days.
I would have done this earlier, but was way to angry to level my head and arrange my ideas, prolly
pîssed of quite a few people even.
To cut a long story short: I´m officially resigning as HC of FAnG in Planetarion after finding three of our top hundred planets closed.
So far I dont know what happend exactly, but since at least two of these guys havnt been on irc since over 2 weeks now I presume they handed over their accounts to someone else. As soon we got told why PA crew closed these members, they will get kicked.
I always attacked importance to fairplay and now I forcefully have to take the consequences for failing to take care of my own members.
Apologizing once more to all the players who played this round brave and fairly I hope to restore at least a bit of our tatterd reputation.
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20 Nov 2003, 17:10
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Happy
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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20 Nov 2003, 17:13
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Join Date: May 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
Sad way to go, hope this doesn't stop the fun in the game too much
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20 Nov 2003, 17:14
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
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Re: FAnG situation
Stop it LEFF you are forcing people to actually respect you.
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20 Nov 2003, 17:32
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by Aryn
it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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20 Nov 2003, 17:37
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Hell
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aryn
it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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And the damage they do their alliances.
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20 Nov 2003, 17:47
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Inactive peon
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: FAnG situation
leff: i'm glad you are annoyed that your members cheated etc - but u really don;t ahve to resign over it...
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20 Nov 2003, 17:49
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: FAnG situation
I feel a bit like posting only "ROFLMAO LOL - why didnt you believe me?"
on the other side I really feel sorry that next great guy leaves the game. We had a lot conficts this round, I know that I nearly never behaved me since months in #FAnG and that our personal relation surely was hurted by this things.
But I still hope that we drink some beers anytime together on a RL meet.
Cya m8
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20 Nov 2003, 17:59
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: the Netherlands
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aryn
it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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20 Nov 2003, 18:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aryn
it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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20 Nov 2003, 18:08
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I see you!
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Re: FAnG situation
I agree with you LEFF, but not when u say u'r resigning.. it's not your fault some people thought of cheating. We all know all alliances got some cheaters.. so.. should all alliance HC's resign becuz of that? I don't think so
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20 Nov 2003, 18:32
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Re: FAnG situation
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leff: i'm glad you are annoyed that your members cheated etc - but u really don't ahve to resign over it...
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I disagree with you, Kal. In terms of PR, this is a great move on Leff's behalf.
Well done, Leff! You're starting to look like a gentleman.
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20 Nov 2003, 18:36
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
I go up three ranks!
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20 Nov 2003, 18:46
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: FAnG situation
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I go up three ranks!
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You're going up more than that, I think (depending on where you're currently at in the rankings). When I write this, 5 top 20 planets are closed.
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20 Nov 2003, 19:08
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: FAnG situation
bah
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20 Nov 2003, 19:14
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
tbh, I don't think it's anyone's business what decision LEFF took. Whether it was a right or wrong decision also cannot be said by any outsider ...
And yes, proven cheaters will get kicked, we do not support such behavior.
And leff, I wish you would have kept this in pm.
rgds Kj
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20 Nov 2003, 19:31
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Honour & Loyalty
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: FAnG situation
Well I would like to add something. A few of those people are not on the fang server for a few days (they have decided to slow down with PA since fang was #1 again) but still they are online on irc. All of them have been VERY active in PA (they cant be anymore since tehy are locked) AND on IRC.
I dont know much about the reason why they have been closed but I have been told its for account sharing. If it's true then its laughable, one doesn't need to account share when online all the time arranging some attacks everyday with the other alliances and so on.
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20 Nov 2003, 19:44
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by WebAngel
I dont know much about the reason why they have been closed but I have been told its for account sharing. If it's true then its laughable, one doesn't need to account share when online all the time arranging some attacks everyday with the other alliances and so on.
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it's a shame that cheaters don't realize the effect they have on everyone else :\
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20 Nov 2003, 19:49
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Retired at the top
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sheffield, UK
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Re: FAnG situation
After reading LEFF's post I was under the impression he was making a stance against cheating and was leaving FAnG for pastures new (and I was dealing with his recruitment form before reading this ). However, following a discussion with a friend of mine I've been informed that chances are LEFF will now actually leave the game.
I remember when I went through my phase of dispair he was one of those who actually talked me out of it (along with a couple of others). I must add whilst I back his stance on cheating I don't feel that it's a reason to leave the game. There are always those that cheat to gain an advantage over the vast majority of fair players. In an ideal world there wouldn't be, but I'm get to find an ideal world. As opposed to letting them ruin this game I for one play on defiantly to show these people that you don't need to cheat to be successful. Ultimately if to them success is more important than fairness then I find their values a bit pathetic. In R8 NoS killed my entire fleet one night when they knew I was away. Retrospectively I could have given my details to someone to have them run my fleet, but that is against the rules, so I just had to spend my salvage and build my planet again.
So LEFF, if you will only play PA for FAnG then I hope you will rejoin FAnG and keep playing. This game needs all the decent players it can get right now. If we leave because of the rotten eggs then there will eventually be no game left.
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20 Nov 2003, 19:49
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Das Scoot
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 788
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Re: FAnG situation
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I go up three ranks!
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I was going to say that. :-/
As for Leff, while it's good to see an HC actually own up that some of their members might be cheaters, unless you told them to do it I don't see why the resigning...
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20 Nov 2003, 19:57
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Inquisitor
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: England
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Re: FAnG situation
This makes FAnG look divided and weak.
Whilst it certainly might improve the image of Leff, it only serves to tarnish and damage the image of his alliance (or should I say ex-alliance?)
For once I agree with Kj, you should have talked about this in PM first and presented a united front on it rather than going off and resigning.
On the other hand, I am terribly amused. You young 'uns...
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20 Nov 2003, 20:28
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Lord of the Boards
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: #furious-angels
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Re: FAnG situation
[edit - sorry.. no logs.. and that's too much for me to let go :\ - Aryn]
just to make one thing clear: I will not leave fang, nor quit PA ... I stepped down as HC
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20 Nov 2003, 21:23
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Estharian
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Finland
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by LEFF|pm
I hope to restore at least a bit of our tatterd reputation.
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20 Nov 2003, 21:44
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Imposter?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK / Canada
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Re: FAnG situation
A top alliance has a few cheating members? I must say I surely am stunned...
Surely resigning as HC over it is a bit silly tho, a HC cannot be expected to control his or her members entirely, but should only be expected to react accordingly when they were discovered to be cheating. Oh and not cheat themselves, don't you agree Focht?
Kicking the cheating fkers out and publically naming them so they find it hard to get into any respectable alliances in the future would be my actions of choice - would also be interesting to see which/if any allainces did take them in as well. Of course on the other hand, if a HC knew they were cheating before they were caught then things maybe a little different...
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20 Nov 2003, 21:45
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Honour & Loyalty
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Paris
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zh|l
This makes FAnG look divided and weak.
Whilst it certainly might improve the image of Leff, it only serves to tarnish and damage the image of his alliance (or should I say ex-alliance?)
For once I agree with Kj, you should have talked about this in PM first and presented a united front on it rather than going off and resigning.
On the other hand, I am terribly amused. You young 'uns...
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So far nobody is deleted and nothing is proven yet. They are SUSPECTED it doesnt mean that they are GUILTY..
FAnG can be weak and divided, it makes of FAnG an alliance of human beings none the less and that is actually good since bots are not allowed in PA
There is no real stake here, a good attack will always give you more roids than a post on AD, whatever it is a good post or not.
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20 Nov 2003, 22:30
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Angels for life !
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by RealJames
After reading LEFF's post I was under the impression he was making a stance against cheating and was leaving FAnG for pastures new (and I was dealing with his recruitment form before reading this ). However, following a discussion with a friend of mine I've been informed that chances are LEFF will now actually leave the game.
I remember when I went through my phase of dispair he was one of those who actually talked me out of it (along with a couple of others). I must add whilst I back his stance on cheating I don't feel that it's a reason to leave the game. There are always those that cheat to gain an advantage over the vast majority of fair players. In an ideal world there wouldn't be, but I'm get to find an ideal world. As opposed to letting them ruin this game I for one play on defiantly to show these people that you don't need to cheat to be successful. Ultimately if to them success is more important than fairness then I find their values a bit pathetic. In R8 NoS killed my entire fleet one night when they knew I was away. Retrospectively I could have given my details to someone to have them run my fleet, but that is against the rules, so I just had to spend my salvage and build my planet again.
So LEFF, if you will only play PA for FAnG then I hope you will rejoin FAnG and keep playing. This game needs all the decent players it can get right now. If we leave because of the rotten eggs then there will eventually be no game left.
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thx James. Nothing is worth quitting this game over. Hence why I'm I told you to stay and did the same with LEFF. To me LEFF is the most integer person PA has ever had, it's just sad he resigned.
rgds Kj
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20 Nov 2003, 22:52
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Cabeza Coder
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: FAnG situation
LEFF, my dearest.
FAnG is dead. FAnG as we (you, me, Kj, hinch, TU, etc.) founded it in R6 is dead.
You tried to revive it this round and you did a good job - but FAnG died in the moment hinch took it over.
I've said that too many times already and its the truth. Many, too many actions in this round (e.g. killing my planet) have proven that. FAnG for PA has been dead for a long time and now as you're leaving it (good decision!) FAnG will maybe finally die.
Good luck with FAnG in other games, and good luck Kj, with anything new you are planning.
Farewell FAnG, see you LEFF, one of my best friends in "The-Online-World"
Johannes "Lockhead" Koch
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20 Nov 2003, 23:10
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: FAnG situation
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddix
Kicking the cheating fkers out and publically naming them so they find it hard to get into any respectable alliances in the future would be my actions of choice - would also be interesting to see which/if any allainces did take them in as well. Of course on the other hand, if a HC knew they were cheating before they were caught then things maybe a little different...
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20 Nov 2003, 23:12
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Commander
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the netherlands
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Re: FAnG situation
LEFF soz to see this happen....
you will be missed
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: FAnG situation
Respect!!!
I know you will be sorely missed as FAnG HC, cheeting is wrong and ditching morals to win at all costs isnt what fang or its core members are about. Officers should lead by example.
You will be respected for doing what you beleave is right.
ps.
Being a peon is nice and quiet, enjoy :P
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21 Nov 2003, 03:03
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK
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Re: FAnG situation
Alliance HC can't stop people cheating - it's how they react when ppl are found to cheat that counts. If you quit as HC who will enforce those ideals in future.
Wait for the proof/explanations and if the are still closed (lets be honest, 90% of ppl stay closed) then kick, name and shame.
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Re: FAnG situation
Why havn't Dragons HC made a thread like this yet? :P
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ToT HC
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Hippler HQ
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Re: FAnG situation
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Join Date: Sep 2000
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Re: FAnG situation
Thats the problem with being a HC... when push comes to shove you feel responsible for what the members do.. wether you are or not.
Personally LEFF i dont hold u responsible for what they do, they made their own beds, they now have to lie in them, your stance on this admirable but a bit sad tbh, you cannot hope to keep that sort of eye on all your members.
I hope someone talks to you and persuades you to take the reign again.
Anyone out there Cheating... I hope this comes as a reminder as to what a selfish and cowardly act cheating is.. and that its repercussions are not only to you but to every member in your alliance and to your alliances rep.
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Re: FAnG situation
So let me get this straight (sorry if I am a little confused)...
You found out some of your inactive members were cheating, but had absolutely no knowledge of this beforehand. Because of this, even though you knew noting about it, and none of it is your responsibility, you are stepping down.
This all just seems a little strange to me. Sure there aren't some other ulterior motives, and this is just a little PR stunt to try to say FAnG cheating is a very unusual thing?
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: FAnG situation
TomKat: Similar situation in RL would be the manager that quits his job when he finds out several of his players have been using drugs/stereoids.
What LEFF does is the right thing to do imo, it shows that you care.
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teens1ut
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
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Re: FAnG situation
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So far nobody is deleted and nothing is proven yet. They are SUSPECTED it doesnt mean that they are GUILTY..
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
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Re: FAnG situation
stepping down as HC is plain stupid. It will serve no purpose other than..nothing.
just kick them and let everyone know who they are
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
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Re: FAnG situation
15 fang closed now (not including some reopened)
This is getting silly...
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Imposter?
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: UK / Canada
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Re: FAnG situation
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21 Nov 2003, 11:29
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True Gamer
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Northern Ireland
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Re: FAnG situation
Leff U True Gamer
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21 Nov 2003, 11:34
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sept 2057
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Re: FAnG situation
Will you be publishing a list of nicks so other HCs can tell them nicely to '**** off'?
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in my sig i write down all my previous co-ords and alliance positions as if they matter because I'm not important enough to be remembered by nickname alone.
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21 Nov 2003, 11:42
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This is bat country
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,693
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Leff U True Gamer
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true gaming has nothing to do with resigning from a HC position when his players have shown an utter incompetance in obeying the rules of the alliance, the game and the community.
LEFF should stay in his seat, conduct a throughout investigation of his alliance, kick anyone remotely connected to any form of cheating and re-start with a clean squad.
this is how he will gain the title true gamer, the respect from his minions and other alliances who should consider doing the exact same thing.
(I am not mocking your descision to support him Zeus, dont get me wrong. I just disagree with the way ' a True Gamer' is presented.)
Although it is an honourable thing to do, I suggest you keep your head high and take action LEFF
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21 Nov 2003, 12:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 898
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Re: FAnG situation
It is the honourable thing, when as HC you find your officers are closed I am sure you would feel that you should step down, an alliance's command should lead by example and not be even suspected of cheeting.
Leff must feel that he cant continue as HC when the people he has entrusted to help run his alliance are closed.
This few people may have destroyed fangs chances of winning if they are deleted and have wasted all the hard work the honest gamers have put so much into the alliance.
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21 Nov 2003, 12:17
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Fightin-irish for life
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: guinness brewery
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Re: FAnG situation
name and shame the cheaters
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21 Nov 2003, 12:22
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Time Lord
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 86
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Re: FAnG situation
idd i agree to that
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21 Nov 2003, 14:00
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
Posts: 900
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by [DDK]gm
This few people may have destroyed fangs chances of winning if they are deleted and have wasted all the hard work the honest gamers have put so much into the alliance.
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I hope btw, that they delete all closed players before final ranks are made up. (no matter what allince)
That will give a realistic ranking
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21 Nov 2003, 14:55
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Retired at the top
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 749
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by xtothez
Will you be publishing a list of nicks so other HCs can tell them nicely to '**** off'?
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I support this.
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21 Nov 2003, 15:25
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Evil inside
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,631
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Re: FAnG situation
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Originally Posted by Maddix
Makes all this slightly less surprising then doesn't it?
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Ive been waiting for it since r8
oh, and its seems its the ex-ldk players who have been closed.. (some of those who fang took in)
*shocker*
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21 Nov 2003, 15:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 898
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Re: FAnG situation
yes, but untill pa-crew say for sure that they were cheating ior delete them t would be wrong to publish thier names. I think most of us know who it is anyway.
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